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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 0:23:33 GMT
Let's settle this once and for all.
What's better: King's book or Kubrick's film?
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Post by ck100 on Oct 14, 2018 0:28:45 GMT
Never read the book, but I've seen the TV miniseries written by King and the Kubrick version. I prefer the Kubrick version.
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Post by hardball on Oct 14, 2018 0:29:35 GMT
The book.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 14, 2018 0:53:47 GMT
Only saw the film.
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Post by James on Oct 14, 2018 0:54:50 GMT
Still need to finish that book. Otherwise, the film takes it for me.
Never saw the mini-series.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 1:32:54 GMT
The film, by a lot.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 14, 2018 3:03:45 GMT
Book, by a long shot. I like the film, but it should be titled "Stanley Kubrick's Take on the Shining". There was a hotel, a family named Torrance and some snow and bad things. The similarities end there
Book advantages:
The topiary animals
The fire hose/snake
The fact that you actually know why Jack flips out
The elevator (much creepier running by itself than just a river of blood coming out)
Movie advantages:
The Grady Girls (creepiest thing in either)
Jack's choice of weapon (an axe is much better than a glorified croquet mallet)
The woman in the tub
But the highlighted item is the biggest for me. The movie blows in this aspect. Jack is fine. Jack sees ghost in bathtub. Jack sees ghosts in the bar. Jack's going to chop up his family. Even with a calculator, it doesn't add up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 6:27:11 GMT
Book, by a long shot. I like the film, but it should be titled "Stanley Kubrick's Take on the Shining". There was a hotel, a family named Torrance and some snow and bad things. The similarities end there Book advantages: The topiary animals The fire hose/snake The fact that you actually know why Jack flips outThe elevator (much creepier running by itself than just a river of blood coming out) Movie advantages: The Grady Girls (creepiest thing in either) Jack's choice of weapon (an axe is much better than a glorified croquet mallet) The woman in the tub But the highlighted item is the biggest for me. The movie blows in this aspect. Jack is fine. Jack sees ghost in bathtub. Jack sees ghosts in the bar. Jack's going to chop up his family. Even with a calculator, it doesn't add up. That's funny, because the first thing book fans will usually criticize is not that movie Jack's descent doesn't make sense, but the fact that movie Jack already seems crazy from the start. On that note, you can tell the guy resents his family even in the drive up to the Overlook. For added measure, his wife is not the spunky blonde bombshell from the book, but instead a whiny Shelly Duvall. He's a violent alcoholic who is off the wagon, he's got writer's block, he's getting cabin fever, and he's got ghosts telling him to murder a wife and son he already has issues with. Adds up to me. |
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 14, 2018 6:35:35 GMT
Book, by a long shot. I like the film, but it should be titled "Stanley Kubrick's Take on the Shining". There was a hotel, a family named Torrance and some snow and bad things. The similarities end there Book advantages: The topiary animals The fire hose/snake The fact that you actually know why Jack flips outThe elevator (much creepier running by itself than just a river of blood coming out) Movie advantages: The Grady Girls (creepiest thing in either) Jack's choice of weapon (an axe is much better than a glorified croquet mallet) The woman in the tub But the highlighted item is the biggest for me. The movie blows in this aspect. Jack is fine. Jack sees ghost in bathtub. Jack sees ghosts in the bar. Jack's going to chop up his family. Even with a calculator, it doesn't add up. That's funny, because the first thing book fans will usually criticize is not that movie Jack's descent doesn't make sense, but the fact that movie Jack already seems crazy from the start. On that note, you can tell the guy resents his family even in the drive up to the Overlook. For added measure, his wife is not the spunky blonde bombshell from the book, but instead a whiny Shelly Duvall. He's a violent alcoholic who is off the wagon, he's got writer's block, he's getting cabin fever, and he's got ghosts telling him to murder a wife and son he already has issues with. Adds up to me. Yup. It has always made sense to me too. Family can drive you nuts and that is part of what Kubrick is saying with The Shining. I haven't read the book, so I don't know if that is incorporated in Stephen King's writing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 7:05:23 GMT
The book and the 1997 miniseries. 
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 14, 2018 17:04:58 GMT
Book, by a long shot. I like the film, but it should be titled "Stanley Kubrick's Take on the Shining". There was a hotel, a family named Torrance and some snow and bad things. The similarities end there Book advantages: The topiary animals The fire hose/snake The fact that you actually know why Jack flips outThe elevator (much creepier running by itself than just a river of blood coming out) Movie advantages: The Grady Girls (creepiest thing in either) Jack's choice of weapon (an axe is much better than a glorified croquet mallet) The woman in the tub But the highlighted item is the biggest for me. The movie blows in this aspect. Jack is fine. Jack sees ghost in bathtub. Jack sees ghosts in the bar. Jack's going to chop up his family. Even with a calculator, it doesn't add up. That's funny, because the first thing book fans will usually criticize is not that movie Jack's descent doesn't make sense, but the fact that movie Jack already seems crazy from the start. On that note, you can tell the guy resents his family even in the drive up to the Overlook. For added measure, his wife is not the spunky blonde bombshell from the book, but instead a whiny Shelly Duvall. He's a violent alcoholic who is off the wagon, he's got writer's block, he's getting cabin fever, and he's got ghosts telling him to murder a wife and son he already has issues with. Adds up to me. I always thought the book fleshed out Jack's decent much better. He found the scrapbook (Kubrick filmed the scrapbook, you can see it by the typewriter), then his alcohol withdrawal gets worse, then the hotel uses the carrot and stick to really bring him over, carrot being the "manager's" job and the stick being the topiary animals attack. And, do I really need spoiler tag, I did like that the book left a nugget of Jack's humanity to him. And the end, he hesitated. Just enough. |
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Oct 14, 2018 21:41:05 GMT
The book is good, but the film is iconic. I therefore voted for the film.
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Post by Xcalatë on Oct 14, 2018 22:47:32 GMT
The Film is Legendary.
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Post by vegalyra on Oct 15, 2018 3:10:58 GMT
I love the movie but the book is superior. In a word...Hallorann.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 15, 2018 3:16:05 GMT
Book, by a long shot. I like the film, but it should be titled "Stanley Kubrick's Take on the Shining". There was a hotel, a family named Torrance and some snow and bad things. The similarities end there The movie is called Stanley Kubrick's The Shining. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 15, 2018 3:16:55 GMT
"You got the Shinin.'" "Don't you mean Shining?" "Shhh! Want to get sued?"
Montgomery Burns: Yes, by cutting off cable TV, and the beer supply, I'll be able to ensure an honest winter's work out of those low-lifes...
Smithers: Sir, did you ever stop to think that maybe it was doing this that caused the previous caretakers to go insane and murder their families?
Montgomery Burns: Mmm, perhaps. Tell you what, we come back and everyone's slaughtered, I owe you a Coke.
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Post by ravi02 on Oct 15, 2018 6:32:27 GMT
I prefer the 1980 film. I enjoy the Stephen King novel and respect King's unhappy feelings towards the film, but I just find the film more engaging. I found King's novel to be a bit flabby, and I liked how Kubrick focused more on Jack Torrance's inadequacies (as a husband, father and writer) and how the isolated hotel contributes to his breakdown. Some of the novel's scenes like the grass animals coming to life would look ridiculous onscreen, so I like the minimal characters and set.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Oct 15, 2018 8:23:05 GMT
Book, by a long shot. I like the film, but it should be titled "Stanley Kubrick's Take on the Shining". There was a hotel, a family named Torrance and some snow and bad things. The similarities end there Book advantages: The topiary animals The fire hose/snake The fact that you actually know why Jack flips outThe elevator (much creepier running by itself than just a river of blood coming out) Movie advantages: The Grady Girls (creepiest thing in either) Jack's choice of weapon (an axe is much better than a glorified croquet mallet) The woman in the tub But the highlighted item is the biggest for me. The movie blows in this aspect. Jack is fine. Jack sees ghost in bathtub. Jack sees ghosts in the bar. Jack's going to chop up his family. Even with a calculator, it doesn't add up. But the book doesn't have the classic Nicholson added line of: Heeeeere's Johnny! |
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Post by WarrenPeace on Oct 15, 2018 8:24:43 GMT
I never read the book.
The movie was like, "OK this is weird."
But then when I read about how Kubrick was an abusive asshole to Shelly Duvall it's like, "Fuck that movie" to me.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 15, 2018 13:46:18 GMT
The book is great, but I prefer the movie's ending.
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