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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 30, 2018 6:36:18 GMT
Colden you haven't seen Venom, so how do you know its great? Unless you're just feeding the haters for kicks like you tend to do on here?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 30, 2018 11:49:28 GMT
Colden you haven't seen Venom, so how do you know its great? Unless you're just feeding the haters for kicks like you tend to do on here? I haven't seen Homecoming, either. But I know it's trash. This is the same, only in reverse. Innit?
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Post by Power Ranger on Oct 30, 2018 14:18:45 GMT
Sony could at least increase the price to use Spidey to an astronomical number. If Disney doesn’t want to pay, the MCU will have to just ignore any mention of the character.
Who thought that Venom could be the key to the end of the MCU?
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Post by Larcen26 on Oct 30, 2018 14:44:16 GMT
Colden you haven't seen Venom, so how do you know its great? Unless you're just feeding the haters for kicks like you tend to do on here? I haven't seen Homecoming, either. But I know it's trash. This is the same, only in reverse. Innit? Homecoming is one of the single best movies Marvel has ever done. You seriously shouldn't judge it without seeing it. It's really fantastic on pretty much every level.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 30, 2018 15:02:40 GMT
I haven't seen Homecoming, either. But I know it's trash. This is the same, only in reverse. Innit? Homecoming is one of the single best movies Marvel has ever done. You seriously shouldn't judge it without seeing it. It's really fantastic on pretty much every level. LOL, I have seen it and it's one of the most forgettable films in recent memory.
What was the great idea behind this RE-REboot without any creative, fresh ideas except to give Spiderboy a generic Iron (Spider)Man suit (robbing him of his charm), forcing in the MCU-Avengers (and RDJ phoning it in for the check) or milfing-up Aunt May?
Where was the character development? Where was the story? Where the memorable set pieces? Where was the fresh music and production design?
It's marginally better than the other MCU films from that year - but that is not saying much. The textbook example of mediocrity. If that's your idea of "fantastic", with Fantastic4 as point of reference maybe...
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 30, 2018 15:02:49 GMT
I haven't seen Homecoming, either. But I know it's trash. This is the same, only in reverse. Innit? Homecoming is one of the single best movies Marvel has ever done. You seriously shouldn't judge it without seeing it. It's really fantastic on pretty much every level. I'm owed ten dollars before I can watch it.
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Post by Power Ranger on Oct 30, 2018 15:04:27 GMT
I haven't seen Homecoming, either. But I know it's trash. This is the same, only in reverse. Innit? Homecoming is one of the single best movies Marvel has ever done. You seriously shouldn't judge it without seeing it. It's really fantastic on pretty much every level. Not every level IMO, but it is very good. There is some elements that fail, but it’s a good film.
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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 30, 2018 16:08:29 GMT
These hater threads are hilarious. There is 0 chance that the MCU stops making Spiderman movies. In fact, it is the exact opposite. He will be their flagship Avenger for the next phase of the MCU. Why wouldn't he be? The movie was highly successful both financially and critically. There is not a sane, unbiased, person on Earth who would think that TASM, TASM 2, or Spiderman 3 are even on the same playing field as Homecoming. I can see the argument for Spiderman 1 and 2 at least, but the others are just garbage and Homecoming is a better film in every way a film can be better.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 30, 2018 16:11:16 GMT
These hater threads are hilarious. There is 0 chance that the MCU stops making Spiderman movies. In fact, it is the exact opposite. He will be their flagship Avenger for the next phase of the MCU. Why wouldn't he be? The movie was highly successful both financially and critically. There is not a sane, unbiased, person on Earth who would think that TASM, TASM 2, or Spiderman 3 are even on the same playing field as Homecoming. I can see the argument for Spiderman 1 and 2 at least, but the others are just garbage and Homecoming is a better film in every way a film can be better.Or, as I told you elsewhere, people can have differing opinions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 16:39:21 GMT
These hater threads are hilarious. There is 0 chance that the MCU stops making Spiderman movies. In fact, it is the exact opposite. He will be their flagship Avenger for the next phase of the MCU. Why wouldn't he be? The movie was highly successful both financially and critically. There is not a sane, unbiased, person on Earth who would think that TASM, TASM 2, or Spiderman 3 are even on the same playing field as Homecoming. I can see the argument for Spiderman 1 and 2 at least, but the others are just garbage and Homecoming is a better film in every way a film can be better.Or, as I told you elsewhere, people can have differing opinions. And opinions can be wrong. If you think that Spider-Man 3 or either Amazing film is on the same level as Homecoming: you are wrong. Period.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 16:42:54 GMT
Homecoming is one of the single best movies Marvel has ever done. You seriously shouldn't judge it without seeing it. It's really fantastic on pretty much every level. I'm owed ten dollars before I can watch it. You also haven't watched any MCU film since Ironman 3. I've noticed that you never said anything too specific about the Post-2013 MCU film you've claimed to have seen. I will say you did a great job of trying to ingratiate yourself to MCU fans there for a while. Congratulations of being a good liar.
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Post by Power Ranger on Oct 30, 2018 16:46:14 GMT
These hater threads are hilarious. There is 0 chance that the MCU stops making Spiderman movies. In fact, it is the exact opposite. He will be their flagship Avenger for the next phase of the MCU. Why wouldn't he be? The movie was highly successful both financially and critically. There is not a sane, unbiased, person on Earth who would think that TASM, TASM 2, or Spiderman 3 are even on the same playing field as Homecoming. I can see the argument for Spiderman 1 and 2 at least, but the others are just garbage and Homecoming is a better film in every way a film can be better. Because Disney is only renting him. I agree that HC is the best Spidey film, but that isn’t the issue. The issue is that when the lease period ends, Sony decides whether to loan Spiderman to the MCU. I haven’t read the fine print, but I assume that’s the conditions.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 30, 2018 16:48:14 GMT
Or, as I told you elsewhere, people can have differing opinions. And opinions can be wrong. If you think that Spider-Man 3 or either Amazing film is on the same level as Homecoming: you are wrong. Period. Now you know that’s not true. You have to know that’s not true. As it so happens, I think Spider-Man: Homecoming is better than Spider-Man 3 or the first Amazing movie (I haven’t seen the second one). But people of good will may disagree on this—of course. You like what you like. Here’s one example: I think Revenge of the Sith is better than Thor: Ragnarok. You probably disagree completely. Fine. You and I both have opinions on what is, at the end of the day, light entertainment. That’s all. Neither is “wrong”; this isn’t a question of right and wrong. They’re just different. It’s extraordinary that we’re even debating this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 16:50:22 GMT
And opinions can be wrong. If you think that Spider-Man 3 or either Amazing film is on the same level as Homecoming: you are wrong. Period. Now you know that’s not true. You have to know that’s not true. As it so happens, I think Spider-Man: Homecoming is better than Spider-Man 3 or the first Amazing movie (I haven’t seen the second one). But people of good will may disagree on this—of course. You like what you like. Here’s one example: I think Revenge of the Sith is better than Thor: Ragnarok. You probably disagree completely. Fine. You and I both have opinions on what is, at the end of the day, light entertainment. That’s all. Neither is “wrong”; this isn’t a question of right and wrong. They’re just different. It’s extraordinary that we’re even debating this. You like "Revenge of the Sith" more on a subjective level, but "Thor Ragnarok" is better on an objective level.
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 30, 2018 16:54:41 GMT
And free to be in great Sony movies with Venom, Carnage, et. al., where he belongs? Anybody know? Holland is hot garbage, and the MCU will never get Peter right, so here's hoping we get a return to form once Sony rightly yanks him away from Disney. Innit? You really need to get a new hobby.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 30, 2018 16:55:00 GMT
You like "Revenge of the Sith" more on a subjective level, but "Thor Ragnarok" is better on an objective level. No. I think Revenge of the Sith is a better-made movie (“on an objective level”). I think Thor: Ragnarok suffered from a weak, unfocussed script and ultimately emphasized spectacle over character or plot. But so what? Who cares? How does any of this matter in the scheme of things? With that said, I’m more than willing to cede you the point if you admit that “on a subjective level,” people of good will may disagree on the merits of silly Spider-Man movies. Of course.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 16:59:53 GMT
You like "Revenge of the Sith" more on a subjective level, but "Thor Ragnarok" is better on an objective level. No. I think Revenge of the Sith is a better-made movie (“on an objective level”). I think Thor: Ragnarok suffered from a weak, unfocussed script and ultimately emphasized spectacle over character or plot. But so what? Who cares? How does any of this matter in the scheme of things? With that said, I’m more than willing to cede you the point if you admit that “on a subjective level,” people of good will may disagree on the merits of silly Spider-Man movies. Of course. You literally just described all three of the Star Wars prequels here. Revenge of the Sith suffered from a weak, unfocused script, and what characters? Anakin goes from wanting to save his wife to suddenly deciding "Okay, I'm evil now" in five minutes. I've seen Saturday morning cartoons from the 70s with better dialogue and character arcs than anything in the Star Wars prequels.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 17:00:34 GMT
And free to be in great Sony movies with Venom, Carnage, et. al., where he belongs? Anybody know? Holland is hot garbage, and the MCU will never get Peter right, so here's hoping we get a return to form once Sony rightly yanks him away from Disney. Innit? You really need to get a new hobby. He would rather blame everyone else for HIS problems than take any responsibility for himself. Everyone he's done on IMDbv2 has been to vent his hate and frustrations.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 17:00:47 GMT
I haven't seen Homecoming, either. But I know it's trash. This is the same, only in reverse. Innit? Homecoming is one of the single best movies Marvel has ever done. You seriously shouldn't judge it without seeing it. It's really fantastic on pretty much every level. I honestly consider it the worst MCU movie. It's the only one I don't own on blu ray or DVD
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 30, 2018 17:02:14 GMT
You like "Revenge of the Sith" more on a subjective level, but "Thor Ragnarok" is better on an objective level. No. I think Revenge of the Sith is a better-made movie (“on an objective level”). I think Thor: Ragnarok suffered from a weak, unfocussed script and ultimately emphasized spectacle over character or plot. But so what? Who cares? How does any of this matter in the scheme of things? lol, talk about casting pearls before the swine. I recently had a conversation with a few persons where I tried to explain via music theory and scores why a Wagner music drama is artistically more valuable than Justin Bieber songs - I failed.
Still, one must try, if you bring enlightenment to only one person, it's a win.
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