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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 1, 2018 16:07:04 GMT
So the guy complains the MCU has no risks but admits he hasn't seen Infinity War? Yeah... whatever. Besides, no DC TV show I've seen matches the kinds of risks, stakes and losses that Agents of SHIELD have gone through. And considering we have characters who are heavily sci-fi and supernatural based on Titans I wouldn't hold my breath if a character bites the dust and remains so forever in the context of the series for as long as it remains. Especially main players. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 1, 2018 19:05:24 GMT
He speaks the truth. Mcu plays it too safe Not really, Ritchson admits he doesn't follow the MCU or has seen Infinity War so his comments feel quite biased and ego driven instead of genuine or factual. It's also unprofessional of him as well. I don't believe he didn't see Infinity War for a second. If it was someone that only does their movie and goes home (like a Michael Douglas), yes. But a youngish actor, that knows about the competition/rivalry enough to call out their name, they would have seen that other movie. Then it's an actor that is in more than one comic book property. He's in that comic book actor world. He'd go see it just to see how they managed to worked in all those actors. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Nov 1, 2018 19:40:10 GMT
He speaks the truth. Mcu plays it too safe Not really, Ritchson admits he doesn't follow the MCU or has seen Infinity War so his comments feel quite biased and ego driven instead of genuine or factual. It's also unprofessional of him as well. Using profanity, excessive violence, showing blood, and a dark color palate with a superhero/comic adaptation is not really risk taking in this day and age and for a property like Titans it comes off as forced and unnatural instead of organic or in the business of trying to tell quality stories. It would be considered risk taking ten years ago or so, but not really in this marketplace. What was risk taking was trying to make hit movies out of B and C list comic characters like Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, The Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther, Ant-Man, and having them crossover and expect audiences to pay close enough attention to get invested and pull off such an ending in Infinity War where the good guys lose. There are a few aspects where the MCU does play it safe, but they've found a nice middle ground between safe and risk taking. Furthermore, it is all based on comic properties at the end of the day and considering they have supernaturalistic characters on Titans I wouldn't hold my breath that if a character dies on screen they'll remain that way for the rest of the show especially if they're a popular character - the Arrowverse of which the producers of Titans are also involved in have had characters who have bite the dust and have come back in some way shape or form, either by supernaturalistic ways like the lazurus pit or by having their Earth-2 doppelgangers show up and take their place. When you got movies that have nothing but humor and jokes like most mcu movies yeah no risked involving. Honestly Titans took a risk by being dark. IW besides the ending is worthless. |
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 1, 2018 19:42:18 GMT
Not really, Ritchson admits he doesn't follow the MCU or has seen Infinity War so his comments feel quite biased and ego driven instead of genuine or factual. It's also unprofessional of him as well. Using profanity, excessive violence, showing blood, and a dark color palate with a superhero/comic adaptation is not really risk taking in this day and age and for a property like Titans it comes off as forced and unnatural instead of organic or in the business of trying to tell quality stories. It would be considered risk taking ten years ago or so, but not really in this marketplace. What was risk taking was trying to make hit movies out of B and C list comic characters like Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, The Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther, Ant-Man, and having them crossover and expect audiences to pay close enough attention to get invested and pull off such an ending in Infinity War where the good guys lose. There are a few aspects where the MCU does play it safe, but they've found a nice middle ground between safe and risk taking. Furthermore, it is all based on comic properties at the end of the day and considering they have supernaturalistic characters on Titans I wouldn't hold my breath that if a character dies on screen they'll remain that way for the rest of the show especially if they're a popular character - the Arrowverse of which the producers of Titans are also involved in have had characters who have bite the dust and have come back in some way shape or form, either by supernaturalistic ways like the lazurus pit or by having their Earth-2 doppelgangers show up and take their place. When you got movies that have nothing but humor and jokes like most mcu movies yeah no risked involving. Honestly Titans took a risk by being dark. IW besides the ending is worthless. It seems to me that you're simply associating "dark" with "risk". And that if a movie has humor and jokes, you automatically assume they have no risks. That's a very shallow understanding of what "risk" actually means. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Nov 1, 2018 19:56:53 GMT
When you got movies that have nothing but humor and jokes like most mcu movies yeah no risked involving. Honestly Titans took a risk by being dark. IW besides the ending is worthless. It seems to me that you're simply associating "dark" with "risk". And that if a movie has humor and jokes, you automatically assume they have no risks. That's a very shallow understanding of what "risk" actually means. Well that's how the mcu has been since 08 full of humor except winter soldier and to an extent black panther,no risk at all |
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 1, 2018 20:05:29 GMT
It seems to me that you're simply associating "dark" with "risk". And that if a movie has humor and jokes, you automatically assume they have no risks. That's a very shallow understanding of what "risk" actually means. Well that's how the mcu has been since 08 full of humor except winter soldier and to an extent black panther,no risk at all The presence or absence of humor does not equate to risk. You might want to rethink your definition of risk. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Nov 1, 2018 20:08:39 GMT
Well that's how the mcu has been since 08 full of humor except winter soldier and to an extent black panther,no risk at all The presence or absence of humor does not equate to risk. You might want to rethink your definition of risk. In the case of the mcu it 100 percent does mean just that |
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 1, 2018 20:31:07 GMT
The presence or absence of humor does not equate to risk. You might want to rethink your definition of risk. In the case of the mcu it 100 percent does mean just that So you admit to changing the definition of the word "risk" depending on your view of the MCU? You do know that's what's called being biased right? |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 1, 2018 20:39:42 GMT
Not really, Ritchson admits he doesn't follow the MCU or has seen Infinity War so his comments feel quite biased and ego driven instead of genuine or factual. It's also unprofessional of him as well. Using profanity, excessive violence, showing blood, and a dark color palate with a superhero/comic adaptation is not really risk taking in this day and age and for a property like Titans it comes off as forced and unnatural instead of organic or in the business of trying to tell quality stories. It would be considered risk taking ten years ago or so, but not really in this marketplace. What was risk taking was trying to make hit movies out of B and C list comic characters like Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, The Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther, Ant-Man, and having them crossover and expect audiences to pay close enough attention to get invested and pull off such an ending in Infinity War where the good guys lose. There are a few aspects where the MCU does play it safe, but they've found a nice middle ground between safe and risk taking. Furthermore, it is all based on comic properties at the end of the day and considering they have supernaturalistic characters on Titans I wouldn't hold my breath that if a character dies on screen they'll remain that way for the rest of the show especially if they're a popular character - the Arrowverse of which the producers of Titans are also involved in have had characters who have bite the dust and have come back in some way shape or form, either by supernaturalistic ways like the lazurus pit or by having their Earth-2 doppelgangers show up and take their place. When you got movies that have nothing but humor and jokes like most mcu movies yeah no risked involving. Honestly Titans took a risk by being dark. IW besides the ending is worthless. Use of humor doesn't strip away any of the risks Marvel Studios has taken to get to where it is today, you cannot say with a straight face that making a 100+ million dollar movie in 2007 about a B list comic superhero like Iron Man with an unproven box office draw like Robert Downey, Jr. and wanting it to be a hit in 2008 wasn't at all a risky business venture. And that was just at the start, Marvel Studios keeps taking risks and most of their output has been homeruns, everybody else trying to set out what they're accomplishing has struggled to replicate similar success, financially and critically. It not that Titans being dark isn't a risk, its how they're presenting the material - the series tries too hard to be edgy for the sake of being edgy instead of allowing the darker and grittier aspects of its stories and characters to occur organically. It's essentially the kind of product that Teen Titans Go cartoon mocked at a few years ago, like Riverdale and Chilling Adventures of Sabrina most of its cast of characters hold fairly little resemblance to their source material and strive too dark than what is necessary which results in some really cringe inducing moments as they aim high but fall flat on their face. No shocker as all three shows are produced by Greg Berlanti and his posse... |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 1, 2018 20:43:32 GMT
It seems to me that you're simply associating "dark" with "risk". And that if a movie has humor and jokes, you automatically assume they have no risks. That's a very shallow understanding of what "risk" actually means. Well that's how the mcu has been since 08 full of humor except winter soldier and to an extent black panther,no risk at all skaathar speaks the truth - you do have a very shallow understanding of what a "risk" actually means. If the MCU does not take any risks then what was stopping all those movie studios from properly adapting Iron Man or Guardians of the Galaxy or Ant-Man for so long? Clearly any other studio that held onto their movie rights didn't think they were worth investing and thus didn't do much of anything with the properties. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 1, 2018 20:44:03 GMT
The presence or absence of humor does not equate to risk. You might want to rethink your definition of risk. In the case of the mcu it 100 percent does mean just that Ah, an NPC. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 1, 2018 20:44:35 GMT
In the case of the mcu it 100 percent does mean just that So you admit to changing the definition of the word "risk" depending on your view of the MCU? You do know that's what's called being biased right? He's an NPC. Expect the same kind of response, "humor bad, dark good". |
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Post by thenewnexus on Nov 1, 2018 21:00:21 GMT
So you admit to changing the definition of the word "risk" depending on your view of the MCU? You do know that's what's called being biased right? He's an NPC. Expect the same kind of response, "humor bad, dark good". Just like how you bash any non mcu movie? |
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Post by thenewnexus on Nov 1, 2018 21:00:55 GMT
In the case of the mcu it 100 percent does mean just that So you admit to changing the definition of the word "risk" depending on your view of the MCU? You do know that's what's called being biased right? Biased? More like speaking the truth |
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 1, 2018 21:04:49 GMT
So you admit to changing the definition of the word "risk" depending on your view of the MCU? You do know that's what's called being biased right? Biased? More like speaking the truth The truth is that the absence or presence of humor does not dictate how risky a movie is. By insisting that this is your measuring stick ONLY when judging MCU movies, you admit to being biased regarding MCU movies. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 1, 2018 23:28:18 GMT
He's an NPC. Expect the same kind of response, "humor bad, dark good". Just like how you bash any non mcu movie? I give you an A for effort F in execution theNPCnexus, but you'll find no posts of mine on her trashing Logan, Deadpool 2, or Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. And I've already listed all the non MCU Marvel movies that I've liked to you before so won't repeat myself here. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 1, 2018 23:29:33 GMT
So you admit to changing the definition of the word "risk" depending on your view of the MCU? You do know that's what's called being biased right? Biased? More like speaking the truth You once again confuse truth with opinion, NPCnexus... |
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Post by thenewnexus on Nov 2, 2018 2:03:54 GMT
Just like how you bash any non mcu movie? I give you an A for effort F in execution theNPCnexus, but you'll find no posts of mine on her trashing Logan, Deadpool 2, or Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. And I've already listed all the non MCU Marvel movies that I've liked to you before so won't repeat myself here. Despite those examples you still think mcu is better,yet you call me biased. You bashed Venom before and after it came out |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 2, 2018 2:30:27 GMT
I give you an A for effort F in execution theNPCnexus, but you'll find no posts of mine on her trashing Logan, Deadpool 2, or Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. And I've already listed all the non MCU Marvel movies that I've liked to you before so won't repeat myself here. Despite those examples you still think mcu is better,yet you call me biased. You bashed Venom before and after it came out As a whole package and in terms of consistency in quality and franchise management I'd side with the MCU as being the best place to adapt Marvel properties to live-action, but on an individual product by product level it really varies, but I never said Logan or Deadpool were inferior to this or that MCU movie and whether or not they were MCU I'd still put them very high on my list of favorite Marvel movies. I was skeptical of Venom because the idea of a Venom origins movie without Spider-Man is pretty eye brow raising and the whole thing smelled of a rushed production just to keep the movie rights and confuse general audiences on the Marvel brand, I didn't boycott it and was always hopeful that despite everything it still might turn out okay...And it was just that - at best. Not a step forward for the genre at all, more of a step back but Tom Hardy makes it worth watching and the relationship between Eddie Brock and Venom is what keeps it steady, do away with it and Hardy it's a huge dud. My opinion. I call you biased because your reasonings for why x is better than y are quite shallow, myopic, and why this or that will be terrible or good are equally as shallow, coupled all together with the fact that you do not really express yourself fairly well on here and sound like you copy and paste the same comments almost as much as NPC-fan, oh wait I mean DC-fan. |
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Post by summers8 on Nov 3, 2018 7:23:16 GMT
The C in MCU is for comedy.
another actor artist slams the mcu again. mcu movies just made it so easy for most to hate comic films
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