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Post by charzhino on Oct 31, 2018 10:00:20 GMT
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 31, 2018 10:09:08 GMT
as a wise man once said: The most pretentious thing is the pretense of risk and thrills while being unwilling to paying for the stakes this requires. This reduces conflicts to a toddler playing with action figures.
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Post by dazz on Oct 31, 2018 13:29:41 GMT
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Well by that logic neither does any cbm except the touted final appearance or death of movie for a character/franchise, Wonder Woman has no stakes no will WW 84. Aquaman, Shazam, and so on.
Also that's an assumption about IW having no stakes, sure the snap victims could be reversed but what about those killed before it? what will the price be for reversing the snap? I mean there is no Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk or GOTG films on the horizon all those characters could die or stay dead after A4.
I could get his point if he meant most comic adaptations feel too much like an ongoing series where we know theres another episode coming soon enough so no one feels like their in danger, but Titans he feels is more like a mini series or like GOT where no one is safe and that if it's right for the story they'll axe a character, but sadly it's just a rather ignorant and lame barb at Marvel, ludos on the article for mocking his seeming ignorance towards Batman or you know anything comic related, kind of comes across like a dumb arse imo.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 31, 2018 13:35:14 GMT
Season one of Titans better end with some dead Titans.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 31, 2018 14:58:00 GMT
Season one of Titans better end with some dead Titans. Probably Hawk and Dove. Isn't there like 3 or 4 versions of that team? |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 31, 2018 15:00:49 GMT
Season one of Titans better end with some dead Titans. Probably Hawk and Dove. Isn't there like 3 or 4 versions of that team? Don't know... Are they actually even Titans? |
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 31, 2018 15:02:27 GMT
Didn't DC just bring Superman back to life? Wonder Woman '84 is bringing Chris Pine back after his character "died" in the previous movie.
If Marvel brings in a new Blade then there will be plenty of stakes.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 31, 2018 15:07:11 GMT
Probably Hawk and Dove. Isn't there like 3 or 4 versions of that team? Don't know... Are they actually even Titans? In the comics they have been. Don't know about the show. They might be trying to keep it to the members in the cartoons with Hawk and Dove as ancillary members. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 31, 2018 15:32:16 GMT
This seems like it’d be a more appropriate topic for the MCU board. I still don’t get why there are so many threads about television shows on a board that’s supposed to be about movies.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 31, 2018 15:54:12 GMT
Just realized something, you said director in the title. Is the guy playing Hawk also directing? |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 31, 2018 16:05:48 GMT
You mean actor, Ritchson is not directing for the Titans series.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 31, 2018 18:31:30 GMT
So the guy complains the MCU has no risks but admits he hasn't seen Infinity War? Yeah... whatever. Besides, no DC TV show I've seen matches the kinds of risks, stakes and losses that Agents of SHIELD have gone through.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 31, 2018 18:33:11 GMT
You mean actor, Ritchson is not directing for the Titans series. The OP should probably change the title of the thread then. That’s a pretty noteworthy mistake to make. |
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Post by hobowar on Oct 31, 2018 18:38:00 GMT
There are emotional stakes in the MCU that CANNOT BE MATCHED BY OTHER STUDIOS.
Death is just a cheap way of creating drama and stops the characters from growing, changing or learning anything.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 31, 2018 18:52:37 GMT
There are emotional stakes in the MCU that CANNOT BE MATCHED BY OTHER STUDIOS. Death is just a cheap way of creating drama and stops the characters from growing, changing or learning anything. Death is actually a pretty shallow way of viewing "stakes". There are multiple other things that can showcase "stakes" without needing anyone to die. |
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Post by hobowar on Oct 31, 2018 19:04:07 GMT
There are emotional stakes in the MCU that CANNOT BE MATCHED BY OTHER STUDIOS. Death is just a cheap way of creating drama and stops the characters from growing, changing or learning anything. Death is actually a pretty shallow way of viewing "stakes". There are multiple other things that can showcase "stakes" without needing anyone to die. Thank you, skaathar. I approve this post. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 31, 2018 20:02:39 GMT
Oooh, how fucking ballsy! Robin says the F word. Seriously, if he thinks adding profanity is taking risks, he's surely mistaken.
As for stakes, HA! I haven't watch his shitty show because I'm not paying $75 to watch a horrendous show, but I'm pretty sure his show has no stakes either. Fucking moron (not you charzino).
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Post by thenewnexus on Nov 1, 2018 10:56:21 GMT
He speaks the truth. Mcu plays it too safe
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 1, 2018 11:14:46 GMT
Didn't DC just bring Superman back to life? Wonder Woman '84 is bringing Chris Pine back after his character "died" in the previous movie.
If Marvel brings in a new Blade then there will be plenty of stakes.
I see what you did there!  |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 1, 2018 16:04:53 GMT
He speaks the truth. Mcu plays it too safe Not really, Ritchson admits he doesn't follow the MCU or has seen Infinity War so his comments feel quite biased and ego driven instead of genuine or factual. It's also unprofessional of him as well. Using profanity, excessive violence, showing blood, and a dark color palate with a superhero/comic adaptation is not really risk taking in this day and age and for a property like Titans it comes off as forced and unnatural instead of organic or in the business of trying to tell quality stories. It would be considered risk taking ten years ago or so, but not really in this marketplace. What was risk taking was trying to make hit movies out of B and C list comic characters like Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, The Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther, Ant-Man, and having them crossover and expect audiences to pay close enough attention to get invested and pull off such an ending in Infinity War where the good guys lose. There are a few aspects where the MCU does play it safe, but they've found a nice middle ground between safe and risk taking. Furthermore, it is all based on comic properties at the end of the day and considering they have supernaturalistic characters on Titans I wouldn't hold my breath that if a character dies on screen they'll remain that way for the rest of the show especially if they're a popular character - the Arrowverse of which the producers of Titans are also involved in have had characters who have bite the dust and have come back in some way shape or form, either by supernaturalistic ways like the lazurus pit or by having their Earth-2 doppelgangers show up and take their place. |
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