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Post by sostie on Nov 12, 2018 21:38:11 GMT
By the way, President Ackbar™ mentioned Radioland Murders, which I like (but it seems no one else does  ). I think it should honorarily count as a Lucas film, Which is a little disrespectful to the late great Mel Smith |
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 12, 2018 21:42:33 GMT
By the way, President Ackbar™ mentioned Radioland Murders, which I like (but it seems no one else does ). I think it should honorarily count as a Lucas film, Which is a little disrespectful to the late great Mel Smith I would never mean to be disrespectful, and I like Smith a great deal, but do you really think it bears Smith’s fingerprints more than Lucas’s? |
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Post by sostie on Nov 12, 2018 21:50:00 GMT
Which is a little disrespectful to the late great Mel Smith I would never mean to be disrespectful, and I like Smith a great deal, but do you really think it bears Smith’s fingerprints more than Lucas’s? I'll be honest with you...I couldn't tell you what Smith's "fingerprints" were. From what I recall of The Radioland Murders (and it was a long time ago), it didn't feel like a Lucas film either. But then it's difficult to even pin down what Lucas's fingerprints were either. Whilst a more enjoyable film, Star Wars is, from what I remember, not as well directed as his two earlier films. But a damn site better than the three he did after. And as for the original question...yes I'd watch a new Lucas film, but his directorship would not be a selling point and my expectations would not be high. |
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 12, 2018 22:10:04 GMT
Well, sostie , that’s pretty much what I mean: I don’t think there’s a particularly “Smithian” style, but I do think there’s a “Lucasian” style that I saw in Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, the three prequels, several scenes in Indiana Jones, and The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. (One also can’t say that there’s a Christian Nyby-style.) Note that he only directed four of those ( Star Wars and its prequels). I’d call it both a directorial style (pastiching, the way dialogue is played, the Hawksian medium-shot, the way images look, the use of color–he talks a bit about it here) and a writing style, the beats he hits. Radioland Murders, to me, felt to me particularly “Lucasian.” It hits very classical storytelling beats, and the characters look and sound like (for example) Han Solo and Princess Leia. It looked like The Phantom Menace to me as well. Not to take anything away from Smith. It just felt like Lucas to me. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Nov 12, 2018 22:10:21 GMT
I'd give it a shot. Maybe American Graffiti III where all the main cast are now grandparents (or even great-grandparents). Instead of the tag line "where were you in '62" it could be "do you know where you are?" LOL "Where were you when you were 62" |
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Post by sostie on Nov 12, 2018 22:43:12 GMT
Well, sostie , that’s pretty much what I mean: I don’t think there’s a particularly “Smithian” style, but I do think there’s a “Lucasian” style that I saw in Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, the three prequels, several scenes in Indiana Jones, and The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. (One also can’t say that there’s a Christian Nyby-style.) Note that he only directed four of those ( Star Wars and its prequels). I’d call it both a directorial style (pastiching, the way dialogue is played, the Hawksian medium-shot, the way images look, the use of color–he talks a bit about it here) and a writing style, the beats he hits. Radioland Murders, to me, felt to me particularly “Lucasian.” It hits very classical storytelling beats, and the characters look and sound like (for example) Han Solo and Princess Leia. It looked like The Phantom Menace to me as well. Not to take anything away from Smith. It just felt like Lucas to me. But is/was there enough "Lucas" on which you can say a style was established that was recognisable in other films? Only three films directed prior to the examples you give - with the exception of the prequels (which sadly is what I remember Lucas as having a style because they were all consistently abysmal and seemed to share a style, unlike the previous 3 films he made). I personally don't see it it in Empire or the Indiana Jones films. The only film I can definitely say felt like or reminded me of a Lucas film was Red Tails |
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 12, 2018 23:40:22 GMT
My apologies, sostie, I had just written a longer response to you when my clunker replacement laptop (the one I usually have crashed on me on Thursday) decided to stop loading v2.0. Ughhhh... But basically I haven’t seen Lucas’s first two, but among the ones I have seen I definitely see a linking Lucas style. I’m watching The Winds of Change from Young Indiana Jones right now, and it looks and feels just like Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith, for better or worse. (I did like the prequels.)  |
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Post by James on Nov 12, 2018 23:41:52 GMT
Anybody seen Strange Magic?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 12, 2018 23:42:04 GMT
My apologies, sostie , I had just written a longer response to you when my clunker replacement laptop decided to stop loading v2.0. You posted on that thing? You're braver than I thought! |
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 12, 2018 23:43:52 GMT
My apologies, sostie , I had just written a longer response to you when my clunker replacement laptop decided to stop loading v2.0. You posted on that thing? You're braver than I thought! I’ve been posting on that goddam thing. It’s somehow gotten even worse just in the short time I’ve been [re]using it. |
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 12, 2018 23:45:06 GMT
And it still won’t load for me on this piece of crap!
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 12, 2018 23:57:05 GMT
And it still won’t load for me on this piece of crap! No! This one goes here! That one goes there! |
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 13, 2018 0:00:51 GMT
Hm?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 13, 2018 0:02:23 GMT
Sir, the possibility of successfully loading an IMDB2 page is approximately 3,720 to 1
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 13, 2018 0:07:10 GMT
In space and on earth, Salzmank can’t remember movie quotes—let alone people’s names!
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 13, 2018 0:08:26 GMT
In space and on earth, Salzmank can’t remember movie quotes—let alone people’s names! When 900 years you reach, remember you will not. |
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 13, 2018 0:18:08 GMT
In space and on earth, Salzmank can’t remember movie quotes—let alone people’s names! When 900 years you reach, remember you will not. Tell, even Salzmank can, when a Yoda quote it is. |
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Post by Marv on Nov 13, 2018 0:28:39 GMT
Not for his name. If the movie looks enjoyable I’d see it regardless but his name doesn’t mean much to me as far as films go.
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Post by Archelaus on Nov 13, 2018 0:44:54 GMT
Anybody seen Strange Magic? It's okay. I didn't think it was as bad as the reviews made it out to be. The animation was astounding to look at. The actors did really good renditions of the songs. It was just that the story was weak and the delivery of the message was a bit superficial. |
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Post by James on Nov 13, 2018 0:48:08 GMT
Anybody seen Strange Magic? It's okay. I didn't think it was as bad as the reviews made it out to be. The animation was astounding to look at. The actors did really good renditions of the songs. It was just that the story was weak and the delivery of the message was a bit superficial. I agree. It was overall pretty bleh for me. I didn’t like how they used real pop songs for the characters to sing as an excuse to make it a musical. At least come up with original content. I haven’t had the courage to see it again ever since. Not the worst but could’ve been better. |
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