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Post by damngumby on Dec 12, 2018 1:39:13 GMT
First it was “Disney controls the Oscars”, but now that BP is racking up nominations in other prestigious awards, it’s because of a global fear of the black man? This is getting quite entertaining! By the time all is said and done, our resident MCU-haters will have to reject most of the independent indicators of a film’s quality in order to maintain their minority opinion that Black Panther is unworthy of being called one of, if not the best superhero movie of all time!
They’ve already rejected the aggregated views of hundreds of film critcs. They’re afraid to speak of the once revered Rotten Tomatoes Best Superhero Movie Of All Time list. They were even preparing to jettison the legitimacy of the Acadamy Awards. Now they are going to have to toss the NBR, Golden Globes and Critics Choice. And we ain’t done yet! correction. Sorry, you didn’t “correct” anything I said. The evidence that Disney does not control the Oscars will be the lack of a disproportionate number of Disney nominations and the catagory that Disney wanted was not implemented by the Acadamy. There is little difference between you and the trolling by DC-Fan. If you’re going to behave like a duck, expect to be labeled a duck. Still having difficulty differentiating between facts and your minority opinion, I see. Prestigious award nominations are facts that can not be disputed. Your poorly presented opinion can’t even pass muster on this insignificant forum.
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Post by damngumby on Dec 12, 2018 1:48:14 GMT
Its all pointless talk cause Black Panther is not going to get a best picture nom. I have faith the 5000+ academy members are not stupid enough to nominate it as if their ability in recognising artful films has evaporated overnight. A couple weeks ago, I would have agreed with you ... but BP is getting some significant recognition from other high end sources. Like I said before, Black Panther is a very good superhero movie but it’s not really best picture material. That is my opinion. I may be wrong.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 5:40:26 GMT
Tell me, in the case of the Golden Globes, who decides what is meritorious? ONLY black people and white-hating caucasian liberals. Right? you underestimate black people. you even offend them. since what you are implying is black people dont know film artistry and will just say anything is good if the cast is black.
most blacks dont think that way, believe me ...they dont.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 5:58:49 GMT
I don't understand why some don't want to see Black Panther nominated for a Best Picture Oscar? Think about what a nomination could do for the comic book movie genre. For years, the Academy has had an extreme bias against comic book movies. Sure, they've rewarded and nominated several comic book movies in the past, but they haven't for a major award until Heath Ledger for Supporting Actor. They've had chances to nominate comic book movies (The Dark Knight, Deadpool, Logan), but have not gone through with it yet. A Best Picture nomination for Black Panther would be great for not just Disney/Marvel, but for DC and Fox as well. They will finally start nominating comic book movies now that they don't have a bias. If you're a comic book fan, you want Black Panther to be nominated for an Oscar. But why don't you? Is it because it's part of the MCU? DC was the first to have an acting nomination/win, and Fox was the first to have a writing nomination, so why can't you let Marvel have this milestone? they dont want black panther to get it because we had had superior comic movies, even in your mcu films. winter solider is more worthy.you keep saying it will do good for the genre but how is it good when it is basically cheating, a scam and underserved?
that is like saying it is good for sports when athletes use drugs to win and cant win on share human agility. can I ask you a question, last year with wonder woman when people were pushing for oscars, did you say it will be good for the genre if WW was nominated. you mcu fans are the biggest hypocrites. I am a DC fan and I never commented on WW getting any recognition or said it deserved oscars. I kept it real and stood by TDK, I said if TDK was not nominated for best picture it will be unfair to give WW that.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 12, 2018 6:12:11 GMT
ONLY black people and white-hating caucasian liberals. Right? you underestimate black people. you even offend them. since what you are implying is black people dont know film artistry and will just say anything is good if the cast is black.
most blacks dont think that way, believe me ...they dont.
Fist in the air in the land of hypocrisy...
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 7:04:27 GMT
you underestimate black people. you even offend them. since what you are implying is black people dont know film artistry and will just say anything is good if the cast is black.
most blacks dont think that way, believe me ...they dont.
Fist in the air in the land of hypocrisy... how am I being a hypocrite? I have explained the good and the bad of BP getting these recognitions.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 12, 2018 7:09:45 GMT
Fist in the air in the land of hypocrisy... how am I being a hypocrite? I have explained the good and the bad of BP getting these recognitions.
Forgive, I’m a dead man. Being cryptic comes with the territory (such as it is). I’m not saying you’re a hypocrite. Far from it. Your impassioned plea for recognition of the “souls of black folk” was so moving to me, I felt I should respond in kind. A ‘fist in the air’ is the indisputable symbol of black power.
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Post by havenless on Dec 12, 2018 14:10:22 GMT
ONLY black people and white-hating caucasian liberals. Right? you underestimate black people. you even offend them. since what you are implying is black people dont know film artistry and will just say anything is good if the cast is black.
most blacks dont think that way, believe me ...they dont.
You’re a bad guesser
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 12, 2018 14:20:10 GMT
I don't understand why some don't want to see Black Panther nominated for a Best Picture Oscar? Think about what a nomination could do for the comic book movie genre. For years, the Academy has had an extreme bias against comic book movies. Sure, they've rewarded and nominated several comic book movies in the past, but they haven't for a major award until Heath Ledger for Supporting Actor. They've had chances to nominate comic book movies (The Dark Knight, Deadpool, Logan), but have not gone through with it yet. A Best Picture nomination for Black Panther would be great for not just Disney/Marvel, but for DC and Fox as well. They will finally start nominating comic book movies now that they don't have a bias. If you're a comic book fan, you want Black Panther to be nominated for an Oscar. But why don't you? Is it because it's part of the MCU? DC was the first to have an acting nomination/win, and Fox was the first to have a writing nomination, so why can't you let Marvel have this milestone? they dont want black panther to get it because we had had superior comic movies, even in your mcu films. winter solider is more worthy.you keep saying it will do good for the genre but how is it good when it is basically cheating, a scam and underserved?
that is like saying it is good for sports when athletes use drugs to win and cant win on share human agility. can I ask you a question, last year with wonder woman when people were pushing for oscars, did you say it will be good for the genre if WW was nominated. you mcu fans are the biggest hypocrites. I am a DC fan and I never commented on WW getting any recognition or said it deserved oscars. I kept it real and stood by TDK, I said if TDK was not nominated for best picture it will be unfair to give WW that.
You don't really understand how these awards work do you? Nominations from different years don't compete against each other. Just because a better movie a few years ago didn't win doesn't mean that a lesser movie this year can't win and vice versa.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 14:23:28 GMT
you underestimate black people. you even offend them. since what you are implying is black people dont know film artistry and will just say anything is good if the cast is black.
most blacks dont think that way, believe me ...they dont.
You’re a bad guesser I am not a bad guesser and you are delusional, ignorant and insulting if you think there are black people who want to take something they know they did not earn rightfully. you are indirectly calling black people morally handicapped.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 14:33:42 GMT
they dont want black panther to get it because we had had superior comic movies, even in your mcu films. winter solider is more worthy.you keep saying it will do good for the genre but how is it good when it is basically cheating, a scam and underserved?
that is like saying it is good for sports when athletes use drugs to win and cant win on share human agility. can I ask you a question, last year with wonder woman when people were pushing for oscars, did you say it will be good for the genre if WW was nominated. you mcu fans are the biggest hypocrites. I am a DC fan and I never commented on WW getting any recognition or said it deserved oscars. I kept it real and stood by TDK, I said if TDK was not nominated for best picture it will be unfair to give WW that.
You don't really understand how these awards work do you? Nominations from different years don't compete against each other. Just because a better movie a few years ago didn't win doesn't mean that a lesser movie this year can't win and vice versa. they matter because they are better and should have been. Look at the oscar win for best picture and adapted screenplay that Logan got. the winners are the same 99% of the time. who ever wins for screenplay wins for picture that should tell you how much logan was deserving. I think this year was different , screenplay went to get out for mostly diversity, on a given day, shape of water should have won. or get out should have won for best picture. the Oscars should be about the best. before the Oscars everyone knew logan and tdk will get something major in recognition. we will be saying the same for BP if the cast was not black and disney was not so powerful and own much of the industry? in the 10 categories Black Panther should not be a top ten. how do you justify black panther stealing a place we know should go to first man or even widows (another black film) and yes it is opinions based on factual film analysis?notice you did not answer my question, I will accept your stance for black panther getting anything major if you can show me past post of yourself supporting wonder woman for the same honour. the fact that you bold so much hypercritical thinking is why BP should never be nominated. even if it is this year, seriously How can I let BP get past this? that is wrong.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 12, 2018 14:41:25 GMT
You don't really understand how these awards work do you? Nominations from different years don't compete against each other. Just because a better movie a few years ago didn't win doesn't mean that a lesser movie this year can't win and vice versa. they matter because they are better and should have been. Look at the oscar win for best picture and adapted screenplay that Logan got. the winners are the same 99% of the time. who ever wins for screenplay wins for picture that should tell you how much logan was deserving. I think this year was different , screenplay went to get out for mostly diversity, on a given day, shape of water should have won. or get out should have won for best picture. the Oscars should be about the best. before the Oscars everyone knew logan and tdk will get something major in recognition. we will be saying the same for BP if the cast was not black and disney was not so powerful and own much of the industry? in the 10 categories Black Panther should not be a top ten. how do you justify black panther stealing a place we know should go to first man or even widows (another black film) and yes it is opinions based on factual film analysis?notice you did not answer my question, I will accept your stance for black panther getting anything major if you can show me past post of yourself supporting wonder woman for the same honour. the fact that you bold so much hypercritical thinking is why BP should never be nominated. even if it is this year, seriously How can I let BP get past this? that is wrong.
Why do I need to prove that I supported WW when it wasn't even nominated in the first place? Truth is I would happily support any cbm in these awards but I can't really support something if they're not nominated can I? Anyway, you just proved that you really don't know how these things work. Hint: no matter how bitter you are that your favorite movies of yesteryear weren't nominated for awards, that shouldn't be a factor at all in deciding what movie wins this year. That's a ridiculously petty reason for not supporting a movie.
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Post by havenless on Dec 12, 2018 14:42:39 GMT
I am not a bad guesser and you are delusional, ignorant and insulting if you think there are black people who want to take something they know they did not earn rightfully. you are indirectly calling black people morally handicapped. I never thought that, that’s why you’re the bad guesser. You’re the one saying those horrible things.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 14:47:44 GMT
they matter because they are better and should have been. Look at the oscar win for best picture and adapted screenplay that Logan got. the winners are the same 99% of the time. who ever wins for screenplay wins for picture that should tell you how much logan was deserving. I think this year was different , screenplay went to get out for mostly diversity, on a given day, shape of water should have won. or get out should have won for best picture. the Oscars should be about the best. before the Oscars everyone knew logan and tdk will get something major in recognition. we will be saying the same for BP if the cast was not black and disney was not so powerful and own much of the industry? in the 10 categories Black Panther should not be a top ten. how do you justify black panther stealing a place we know should go to first man or even widows (another black film) and yes it is opinions based on factual film analysis?notice you did not answer my question, I will accept your stance for black panther getting anything major if you can show me past post of yourself supporting wonder woman for the same honour. the fact that you bold so much hypercritical thinking is why BP should never be nominated. even if it is this year, seriously How can I let BP get past this? that is wrong.
Why do I need to prove that I supported WW when it wasn't even nominated in the first place? Truth is I would happily support any cbm in these awards but I can't really support something if they're not nominated can I? Anyway, you just proved that you really don't know how these things work. Hint: no matter how bitter you are that your favorite movies of yesteryear weren't nominated for awards, that shouldn't be a factor at all in deciding what movie wins this year. That's a ridiculously petty reason for not supporting a movie. you need proof because you accused us of being mcu haters for not supporting mcu movies. you have to be a dc hater yourself for not supporting wonder woman. LOL..you say i am bitter, no I feel vindicated to be proven right all along the the media is in mcu pockets. to know Marvel is now on the edge of destroying the credibility of comic films once and for all since the world will burst in laughter and mockery should BP get nominated in anything major. yes they should be a factor, remember logan and tdk ,factors stopped them for getting the best picture so why does the factor not matter now? oh your right, you are an mcu fan. the rules are for others not for you.
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Post by Vassaggo on Dec 12, 2018 15:13:28 GMT
SAG Awards Nominations were just announced and...
Outstanding Performance by a Cast in a Motion Picture Black Panther BlacKkKlansman Bohemian Rhapsody Crazy Rich Asians A Star is Born
EDIT: The nominees for the Screen Actors Guild Awards® for outstanding performances in television and motion pictures were selected by two separate film and television nominating panels. each composed of 2,200 SAGAFTRA members in good standing from across the United States. Nominating committee members are randomly selected annually in the spring and must opt-in to serve. SAG-AFTRA members may not be drawn for the same committee again until eight years have passed.
As this is selected by Actors mostly and that Oscar Nominations are done mostly by Actors. (Thy are the majority of the 6000+ members of the Academy) this is the one of the last nominations that usually results into an Oscar Nominations.
This isn't meant as support for or against Black Panther just info.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 12, 2018 15:21:56 GMT
Why do I need to prove that I supported WW when it wasn't even nominated in the first place? Truth is I would happily support any cbm in these awards but I can't really support something if they're not nominated can I? Anyway, you just proved that you really don't know how these things work. Hint: no matter how bitter you are that your favorite movies of yesteryear weren't nominated for awards, that shouldn't be a factor at all in deciding what movie wins this year. That's a ridiculously petty reason for not supporting a movie. you need proof because you accused us of being mcu haters for not supporting mcu movies. you have to be a dc hater yourself for not supporting wonder woman. LOL..you say i am bitter, no I feel vindicated to be proven right all along the the media is in mcu pockets. to know Marvel is now on the edge of destroying the credibility of comic films once and for all since the world will burst in laughter and mockery should BP get nominated in anything major. yes they should be a factor, remember logan and tdk ,factors stopped them for getting the best picture so why does the factor not matter now? oh your right, you are an mcu fan. the rules are for others not for you. Was Wonder Woman ever nominated for an Oscar or Golden Globe?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 12, 2018 16:49:29 GMT
you need proof because you accused us of being mcu haters for not supporting mcu movies. you have to be a dc hater yourself for not supporting wonder woman. LOL..you say i am bitter, no I feel vindicated to be proven right all along the the media is in mcu pockets. to know Marvel is now on the edge of destroying the credibility of comic films once and for all since the world will burst in laughter and mockery should BP get nominated in anything major. yes they should be a factor, remember logan and tdk ,factors stopped them for getting the best picture so why does the factor not matter now? oh your right, you are an mcu fan. the rules are for others not for you. Was Wonder Woman ever nominated for an Oscar or Golden Globe? Wonder Woman was nominated for and won AFI, SAG and Saturn awards. The film was not nominated for a Golder Globe or an Oscar.
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