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Post by Skaathar on Dec 20, 2018 5:47:57 GMT
That ain't right, it was definitely better than those two movies or the likes of the original Captain America and Iron Man 2. This is further confirmation of critic bias in favor of MCU movies. MCU movies always have inflated ratings because of critic bias. Or maybe their movies are just that good eh?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 10:42:11 GMT
Uh huh, so what's your excuse when the Oscars nominate Black Panther for Best Picture? And don't say that it won't, the Golden Globes nominated it for Best Picture, the SAG Awards nominated it for Best Ensemble, and the Critic's Choice Awards nominated it for Best Picture. It's only a matter of time when the Oscars nominate it for Best Picture. No excuse needed. It's obvious that voters are voting for Black Panther only because they're afraid of being called racists. They've been called racists for years and years, not sure why they would suddenly be afraid of it.
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Post by damngumby on Dec 20, 2018 12:54:48 GMT
The RT score keeps dropping Because critics are beginning to realize that Aquaman isn't an MCU movie. Oh dear, DC-Fan just said that the early positive reviews for Aquaman were undeserved due to “MCU bias” and a mass case of mistaken identity by the critics. Now that they know Aquaman isn’t MCU, the truthful (bad) reviews are coming in. That’s big of him to admit.
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Post by scabab on Dec 20, 2018 15:53:53 GMT
I'm not gonna say there is a bias but you do have Ant-man and the Wasp with an 88%. Is that really deserved when it has a 7.2 on IMDb?
Doctor Strange with an 89%? It was a good movie and all but an 89% good?
Aquaman only has a 68% at the moment, it's good solid movie and that's about it. So was Guardians of the Galaxy 2 though but that has a 83%.
Thor Dark World itself has a 66% and that wasn't as good as Aquaman at all. Man of Steel that released the same year has a 58% and I thought that was much better.
So yeah I don't know how Aquaman can get a 68% but then Ant-man gets an 82%, Iron Man 2 gets a 73% and Captain America gets an 80% because I'd say Aquaman was better than all those.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 20, 2018 17:42:57 GMT
I'm not gonna say there is a bias but you do have Ant-man and the Wasp with an 88%. Is that really deserved when it has a 7.2 on IMDb? Doctor Strange with an 89%? It was a good movie and all but an 89% good? Aquaman only has a 68% at the moment, it's good solid movie and that's about it. So was Guardians of the Galaxy 2 though but that has a 83%. Thor Dark World itself has a 66% and that wasn't as good as Aquaman at all. Man of Steel that released the same year has a 58% and I thought that was much better. So yeah I don't know how Aquaman can get a 68% but then Ant-man gets an 82%, Iron Man 2 gets a 73% and Captain America gets an 80% because I'd say Aquaman was better than all those. I would have to guess that there still remains a deep stigma against the DCEU that remains entrenched among critics. Meanwhile the MCU has this stuff down to a science so well that it's probably easy to say "Oh yea it's good. Go see it." Like clockwork. Meanwhile, even though Aquaman is getting generally positive reviews, the enthusiasm is comparatively more lukewarm due to that stigma and the DCEU still trying to find its footing in light of all the shakeups behind-the-scenes. Perhaps that bled into reviews that cite the messy storytelling. Or maybe sometimes a few critics are just being dicks as thisguy4000 shared.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 20, 2018 17:56:35 GMT
Well, the RT score is back at 69 percent for the time being.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 20, 2018 18:13:18 GMT
Maybe it's the Russian troll bots that are lowering it?
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 20, 2018 19:12:46 GMT
I'm not gonna say there is a bias but you do have Ant-man and the Wasp with an 88%. Is that really deserved when it has a 7.2 on IMDb? Doctor Strange with an 89%? It was a good movie and all but an 89% good? Aquaman only has a 68% at the moment, it's good solid movie and that's about it. So was Guardians of the Galaxy 2 though but that has a 83%. Thor Dark World itself has a 66% and that wasn't as good as Aquaman at all. Man of Steel that released the same year has a 58% and I thought that was much better. So yeah I don't know how Aquaman can get a 68% but then Ant-man gets an 82%, Iron Man 2 gets a 73% and Captain America gets an 80% because I'd say Aquaman was better than all those. I would have to guess that there still remains a deep stigma against the DCEU that remains entrenched among critics. Meanwhile the MCU has this stuff down to a science so well that it's probably easy to say "Oh yea it's good. Go see it." Like clockwork. Meanwhile, even though Aquaman is getting generally positive reviews, the enthusiasm is comparatively more lukewarm due to that stigma and the DCEU still trying to find its footing in light of all the shakeups behind-the-scenes. Perhaps that bled into reviews that cite the messy storytelling. Or maybe sometimes a few critics are just being dicks as thisguy4000 shared. I think a big part of it is that MCU movies, even the worst ones, have a fairly cohesive story and have a pretty good pace. All of their storylines seem to flow well (even though I sometimes have issues with what is being told in the story) and their pacing is neither too sluggish nor too busy. In comparison, every single DCEU movie I've seen sans Wonder Woman have had this disjointed feel. Like I was flitting from scene to scene instead of flowing through them. Then there are long stretches where nothing of note happens and then other times it's pure action that seems to drag a bit too long.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 20, 2018 19:51:04 GMT
Now, these guys are not the brightest bulbs in the socket but the review back and forth is fun to watch
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 21, 2018 3:41:15 GMT
I'm not gonna say there is a bias but you do have Ant-man and the Wasp with an 88%. Is that really deserved when it has a 7.2 on IMDb? Doctor Strange with an 89%? It was a good movie and all but an 89% good? Aquaman only has a 68% at the moment, it's good solid movie and that's about it. So was Guardians of the Galaxy 2 though but that has a 83%. Thor Dark World itself has a 66% and that wasn't as good as Aquaman at all. Man of Steel that released the same year has a 58% and I thought that was much better. So yeah I don't know how Aquaman can get a 68% but then Ant-man gets an 82%, Iron Man 2 gets a 73% and Captain America gets an 80% because I'd say Aquaman was better than all those.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 21, 2018 3:47:45 GMT
Because critics are beginning to realize that Aquaman isn't an MCU movie. Oh dear, DC-Fan just said that the early positive reviews for Aquaman were undeserved due to “MCU bias” and a mass case of mistaken identity by the critics. Now that they know Aquaman isn’t MCU, the truthful (bad) reviews are coming in. That’s big of him to admit.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 21, 2018 5:54:22 GMT
Oh dear, DC-Fan just said that the early positive reviews for Aquaman were undeserved due to “MCU bias” and a mass case of mistaken identity by the critics. Now that they know Aquaman isn’t MCU, the truthful (bad) reviews are coming in. That’s big of him to admit.
Yep, KKB is always trying to deny reality and re-write it. That's why KKB still insists that Jim "The Deflator" McNally called himself "The Deflator" because he was trying to lose weight and not because he was deflating footballs for Tom Brady to illegally use in games. Tom Brady gets caught using illegally-deflated footballs in a championship game and his equipment guy just happens to call himself "The Deflator" and just happens to be seen on videotape before that game taking a bag of footballs out of the Officials Locker Room Area (without permission from the refs and without informing the refs). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that "The Deflator" was the guy deflating the footballs for Brady and helping Brady to cheat. Only KKB is still in denial about that.
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Post by havenless on Dec 21, 2018 6:19:07 GMT
Yep, KKB is always trying to deny reality and re-write it. That's why KKB still insists that Jim "The Deflator" McNally called himself "The Deflator" because he was trying to lose weight and not because he was deflating footballs for Tom Brady to illegally use in games. Tom Brady gets caught using illegally-deflated footballs in a championship game and his equipment guy just happens to call himself "The Deflator" and just happens to be seen on videotape before that game taking a bag of footballs out of the Officials Locker Room Area (without permission from the refs and without informing the refs). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that "The Deflator" was the guy deflating the footballs for Brady and helping Brady to cheat. Only KKB is still in denial about that. To be fair, they let him keep the championship trophy so on some level it was allowed. Steal a bike? Cops take it back. Deflate a football to win the game? Win is still etched in history. Doesn’t sound so flagrant to me.
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Post by miike80 on Dec 21, 2018 8:22:37 GMT
I'm not gonna say there is a bias but you do have Ant-man and the Wasp with an 88%. Is that really deserved when it has a 7.2 on IMDb? Doctor Strange with an 89%? It was a good movie and all but an 89% good? Aquaman only has a 68% at the moment, it's good solid movie and that's about it. So was Guardians of the Galaxy 2 though but that has a 83%. Thor Dark World itself has a 66% and that wasn't as good as Aquaman at all. Man of Steel that released the same year has a 58% and I thought that was much better. So yeah I don't know how Aquaman can get a 68% but then Ant-man gets an 82%, Iron Man 2 gets a 73% and Captain America gets an 80% because I'd say Aquaman was better than all those. I would have to guess that there still remains a deep stigma against the DCEU that remains entrenched among critics. Meanwhile the MCU has this stuff down to a science so well that it's probably easy to say "Oh yea it's good. Go see it." Like clockwork. Meanwhile, even though Aquaman is getting generally positive reviews, the enthusiasm is comparatively more lukewarm due to that stigma and the DCEU still trying to find its footing in light of all the shakeups behind-the-scenes. Perhaps that bled into reviews that cite the messy storytelling. Or maybe sometimes a few critics are just being dicks as thisguy4000 shared. Critics had a big stigma against Transformers movies( they were awfull, of course) but still Bumblebee sits at 94% Maybe Aquaman is not really that great?
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Post by NormanClature on Dec 21, 2018 10:39:28 GMT
I would have to guess that there still remains a deep stigma against the DCEU that remains entrenched among critics. Meanwhile the MCU has this stuff down to a science so well that it's probably easy to say "Oh yea it's good. Go see it." Like clockwork. Meanwhile, even though Aquaman is getting generally positive reviews, the enthusiasm is comparatively more lukewarm due to that stigma and the DCEU still trying to find its footing in light of all the shakeups behind-the-scenes. Perhaps that bled into reviews that cite the messy storytelling. Or maybe sometimes a few critics are just being dicks as thisguy4000 shared. I think a big part of it is that MCU movies, even the worst ones, have a fairly cohesive story and have a pretty good pace. All of their storylines seem to flow well (even though I sometimes have issues with what is being told in the story) and their pacing is neither too sluggish nor too busy. In comparison, every single DCEU movie I've seen sans Wonder Woman have had this disjointed feel. Like I was flitting from scene to scene instead of flowing through them. Then there are long stretches where nothing of note happens and then other times it's pure action that seems to drag a bit too long. I think the main difference between the MCU's mid to low range offerings and a movie like Aquaman is that the MCU movies are easier for critics to give a 6 to. MCU turds are far more polished.
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Post by miike80 on Dec 21, 2018 10:46:00 GMT
I find it interesting watching the top critics rating. While Bumblebee stands even better at 95%, Aquaman is rotten with a 46%
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Post by damngumby on Dec 21, 2018 12:24:45 GMT
Oh dear, DC-Fan just said that the early positive reviews for Aquaman were undeserved due to “MCU bias” and a mass case of mistaken identity by the critics. Now that they know Aquaman isn’t MCU, the truthful (bad) reviews are coming in. That’s big of him to admit. Wait what? That’s not what he said at all ... Yes it is. Shall we replay the tape? The RT score keeps dropping Because critics are beginning to realize that Aquaman isn't an MCU movie. According to DC-Fan, prior to the RT score dropping, critics were under the illusion that Aquaman was a MCU movie. ... You following me so far? It’s an idiotic premise, but consider the source.And prior to the RT score dropping, Aquaman had a relatively good RT score. DC-Fan says that MCU movies get good reviews, not because they are good movies, but because of something he calls, “MCU bias”. ... You are aware of this, right? I mean, it’s one of his most common excuses.
Now, we just put the pieces together. Aquaman early reviews were artificially elevated because the critics (mistakenly) thought it was an MCU movie and due to their positive bias toward that studio. Now that they are aware it is not a MCU movie, the “MCU bias” no longer applies, and unbiased (truthful) reviews are coming in ... which is causing the RT score to drop. Simple. Hey, the next time you fail to comprehend something, try to be a little more discrete. Those embarrassing billboards are just adding insult to your self-inflicted injury.
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Post by damngumby on Dec 21, 2018 12:37:34 GMT
Yep, KKB is always trying to deny reality and re-write it. That's why KKB still insists that Jim "The Deflator" McNally called himself "The Deflator" because he was trying to lose weight and not because he was deflating footballs for Tom Brady to illegally use in games.
Tom Brady gets caught using illegally-deflated footballs in a championship game and his equipment guy just happens to call himself "The Deflator" and just happens to be seen on videotape before that game taking a bag of footballs out of the Officials Locker Room Area (without permission from the refs and without informing the refs). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that "The Deflator" was the guy deflating the footballs for Brady and helping Brady to cheat. Only KKB is still in denial about that. As a public service, I’ll just mark the incorrect parts of DC-Fan’s post, in red. More detailed take-downs are available on the Sports board, where he loses this argument, every single time.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 21, 2018 14:14:17 GMT
Yep, KKB is always trying to deny reality and re-write it. That's why KKB still insists that Jim "The Deflator" McNally called himself "The Deflator" because he was trying to lose weight and not because he was deflating footballs for Tom Brady to illegally use in games. Tom Brady gets caught using illegally-deflated footballs in a championship game and his equipment guy just happens to call himself "The Deflator" and just happens to be seen on videotape before that game taking a bag of footballs out of the Officials Locker Room Area (without permission from the refs and without informing the refs). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that "The Deflator" was the guy deflating the footballs for Brady and helping Brady to cheat. Only KKB is still in denial about that. To be fair, they let him keep the championship trophy so on some level it was allowed. Steal a bike? Cops take it back. Deflate a football to win the game? Win is still etched in history. Doesn’t sound so flagrant to me. Just because they let him keep the trophy doesn't mean it was earned or legitimate. MLB let all the home run records in baseball stand despite the rampant steroids use. But that doesn't mean those records were earned or legitimate. Everyone knows those home run records were achieved by using steroids. And everyone knows that Tom Brady is a cheater and fraud who won those championships by cheating.
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Post by havenless on Dec 21, 2018 14:32:05 GMT
To be fair, they let him keep the championship trophy so on some level it was allowed. Steal a bike? Cops take it back. Deflate a football to win the game? Win is still etched in history. Doesn’t sound so flagrant to me. Just because they let him keep the trophy doesn't mean it was earned or legitimate. MLB let all the home run records in baseball stand despite the rampant steroids use. But that doesn't mean those records were earned or legitimate. Everyone knows those home run records were achieved by using steroids. And everyone knows that Tom Brady is a cheater and fraud who won those championships by cheating. MLB and NFL are who decide what is and isn’t legitimate, not us. It’s like flags in Football. If the ref throws a flag for offensive holding, he committed offensive holding. It doesn’t matter if it looks like he didn’t, it doesn’t matter what the rulebooo states is defined as holding, the ref is the one who decides. I’m no Pats fan, but the NFL decided Brady’s actions were legitimate.
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