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Post by justanaveragejoe on Dec 26, 2018 20:22:16 GMT
Inner conflict lol. You can have inner conflict without wanting to bash other peoples brains out like children. Look how X3 dealt with the cure conflict between the Xmen, through respectful dialogue. Or even how Xavier has differences with Magneto, Scott and Wolverine yet no one ends up choking one another or wrecking public airports. Doesnt change the fact that Xmen act like adults and have better team chemistry than Avengers Respectful dialogue like how like Beast throws Wolverine like a ragdoll? or how Wolverine grabs Charles by the collar after he tells him to fuck off. |
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Post by hobowar on Dec 26, 2018 23:15:38 GMT
Inner conflict lol. You can have inner conflict without wanting to bash other peoples brains out like children. Look how X3 dealt with the cure conflict between the Xmen, through respectful dialogue. Or even how Xavier has differences with Magneto, Scott and Wolverine yet no one ends up choking one another or wrecking public airports. Doesnt change the fact that Xmen act like adults and have better team chemistry than Avengers Respectful dialogue like how like Beast throws Wolverine like a ragdoll? or how Wolverine grabs Charles by the collar after he tells him to fuck off. That's the closest the so called "X-Men" have ever come to being remotely interesting in the Singer abominations. |
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Post by summers8 on Dec 27, 2018 7:46:34 GMT
Inner conflict lol. You can have inner conflict without wanting to bash other peoples brains out like children. Look how X3 dealt with the cure conflict between the Xmen, through respectful dialogue. Or even how Xavier has differences with Magneto, Scott and Wolverine yet no one ends up choking one another or wrecking public airports. Doesnt change the fact that Xmen act like adults and have better team chemistry than Avengers Respectful dialogue like how like Beast throws Wolverine like a ragdoll? or how Wolverine grabs Charles by the collar after he tells him to fuck off. content. this is actually good. since xavier is acting like what he really is. drunk, broken and depressed. this is not fun to watch. xavier is a shell of his former self. good drama.
beast is still hiding who he truly is and freaks out when logan says he is a late bloomber.
john campea and others were right when they said mcvoy should have gotten a best supporting actor nomination.
mcu dofp is actually a cross between age of ultron and thor jokenock.
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Post by hobowar on Dec 27, 2018 8:23:51 GMT
Respectful dialogue like how like Beast throws Wolverine like a ragdoll? or how Wolverine grabs Charles by the collar after he tells him to fuck off. content. this is actually good. since xavier is acting like what he really is. drunk, broken and depressed. this is not fun to watch. xavier is a shell of his former self. good drama.
beast is still hiding who he truly is and freaks out when logan says he is a late bloomber.
john campea and others were right when they said mcvoy should have gotten a best supporting actor nomination.
mcu dofp is actually a cross between age of ultron and thor jokenock.
Then it's settled. The X-Man franchise is pure crap. Thanks, summers8. You really opened my eyes.  |
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Post by charzhino on Dec 27, 2018 11:42:32 GMT
Respectful dialogue like how like Beast throws Wolverine like a ragdoll? or how Wolverine grabs Charles by the collar after he tells him to fuck off. When I meant respectful dialogue, I was thinking mainly of the cure storyline from X3 which caused internal conflict, with Storm adamantly against it and Wolverines neutrality towards Rogues decision to take it. Those 2 examples you wrote are not the result of any team problems. Xavier is helpless because the army have recruited all his mutant students and Magneto has taken away Raven. The situation is not his, Beast or Logans fault. In The Avengers, the conflict happens because Nick Fury is hiding the fact he has Hydra style nuclear weapons and conceals it from Stark and Banner. Theres also conflict between Tony and Rogers because Tony is jealous of Cap. Thor is 100% right when he calls their arguments petty and juvenile. Flash forward to Age of Ultron, the conflict happens because (huge irony incoming) Stark hides the fact hes making an Ultron peacekeeping program and conceals it from the other Avengers and they are upset once they find out its Stark who created the killer robot army. Then to civil war, they are (play)fighting in a public airport destroying private property and endangering lives instead of talking it out like adults. At the finale ironman is clobbering Cap instead of realising how Zemo has played them. Cap then sends a sorry letter to Stark which he ignores because he is selfish, and this leads to Thanos winning in IW because the Avengers are not in unison (Tony says he and Cap are not on speaking terms, when in fact its Tony who refuses to accept Caps apology). All the internal conflict in Avenger films happen because they hide secrets due to poor communication and trust issues or happen because they are juvenile and cant help but causing a ruckus by beating the living daylights out of each other. Its pretty clear to see which superhero team is actually cohesive across multiple movies. And there will be lot of internal conflict during Dark Phoenix and I can almost guarantee it wont play out like in Civil War where the Xmen are having a battle royale in a public place against each other over Jean Greys fate. |
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Post by merh on Dec 31, 2018 6:03:31 GMT
Thor could trash sentinels. The chitauri were Thanos's. They reflected the estimate humans were weak & thus easy to control. once again good for telling me how dumb mcu movies are. also how they dumb down cinema. it was not about trashing. the whole purpose of DOFP was a world where the physical of brute never mattered. proving why mcu is dumb. true thor could trash sentinels. since as i said already disney will make the sentinels as easy and silly as the chitauris who never felt like a threat because they dont want to scare kids and disney thinks comic are just fun. This & First Avenger were the last of the pre-Disney MCU Thor- Cap Hell, Raimi wanted to do a Thor movie before Spiderman Thor wanting to make his own name as an adult ignored the wisdom his father taught him as belonging to the past, getting exiled to Earth where he realized the old ways were still valid. Humility. Redemption. He died to save his friends & the entire planet from his brother. He had no way of no way of knowing his powers could return-Loki said Odin was dead. Odin returned Thor's powers along with a sizable electric shock which revived Thor. You do not see any story, drama or theme to it? You are blind |
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Post by merh on Dec 31, 2018 6:46:29 GMT
This would be before there became a team. This is while the scepter was affecting all of them, even Loki. This is before Coulson is killed during Loki's escape. Stark had promised Thor the scepter so it could be returned to Asgard for safekeeping. Stark failed to do as he promised because of his deep-seated needs. He wants to keep his friends so creating a force of robots to protect earth means his friends dont have to die because Stark is possessive of what he sees as his things. His friends are possessions he doesnt want to lose like he lost his mother. Stark's immaturity Zemo's desire for revenge allowing him to kill whoever it takes to attain it If Zemo hadn't set Bucky up, the clash over Bucky wouldnt have occurred ... They got together like minutes earlier? Quill was kidnapped as a child-what, around 9? Right after seeing his mom die of cancer. Reared by a bunch of pirates who threatened to eat him regularly? So one can't exactly expect much maturity, can one? Vs Stark who we know has issues over losing friends. The Guardians as a whole are pretty messed up & immature. Peter Parker is what, 15? Possibly more mature than the majority there. Strange is more mature, but his ego is huge enough it clashes with Stark's "the world revolves around me" ego. |
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Post by summers8 on Dec 31, 2018 9:31:25 GMT
um remember when I said thor 1 was the best thor film and a movie that showed mcu potential before all the disney nonsense?
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 31, 2018 15:06:08 GMT
um remember when I said thor 1 was the best thor film and a movie that showed mcu potential before all the disney nonsense? And how it's better than any Wolverine movie outside of Logan? Yes. |
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Post by scabab on Dec 31, 2018 15:40:14 GMT
Hmm I'd say The Wolverine was better than Thor.
Sad thing about The Wolverine is that it was really solid for the first two thirds and then the ending kinda ruined itself by being too outlast dish compared to the rest of the movie.
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Post by blockbusted on May 7, 2019 0:17:25 GMT
Man the CGI did not age well for those films. Especially Avengers. Got a Star Wars prequel vibe from the chitauri CG alone. Production values was/were sadly not the strongest point of Whedon at the time. If there was one thing that got improved in 'Avengers: Age of Ultron', it's/they're production values. Besides, we've seen this happening before from 'Spider-Man' to 'Spider-Man 2'. Sam Raimi didn't exactly have a lot of experience in production values when he made the former, but by the time he made a huge improvement on that when he made the latter. This is more than I can say for Matthew Vaughn, who seems to suffer a lot when it comes to production values. Seriously, his films always seem to look rather cheap no matter how much he spent on making his films. |
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