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Post by Skaathar on Dec 25, 2018 18:47:33 GMT
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 25, 2018 19:04:56 GMT
It was never expected to have a higher opening than any of the other movies, nor did it need to. Movies released in December tend to have much stronger legs than movies released at any other time of the year, and it’s most likely going to exceed the total gross of JL by the very end.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 25, 2018 19:12:49 GMT
That was discussed in specific threads ad nauseam already. US-domestic yes, in foreign markets Aquaman has already far surpassed most DC films, and has crossed USD 500M.
Reasons for US domestic are it's a relatively unknown IP, the December month and that the competition is strong. Amazingly, it's still doing great: it's leading several times ahead before Transformers, Mary Poppins (!) and others such as Spiderman (an A-lister). Maybe there is a JL aftertaste factor too, but unlikely.
December traditionally fields smaller opening weekends that can lead to long runs at the box office as moviegoers have time off between Christmas and New Year’s. When looking at end-of-the-year releases, “Aquaman” actually ranks among the best launches except “Star Wars” saga films.
And no, it's not better than almost all DCEU, but that's opinion.
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Post by sostie on Dec 26, 2018 11:08:50 GMT
US-domestic yes, in foreign markets Aquaman has already far surpassed most DC films, and has crossed USD 500M. Based on the figures on Box Office Mojo, it seems not that spectacular (though neither are they disastrous). It has beaten the 5 previous DCEU films released in China. Which is easily the biggest market outside the US. But this may also be why it looks like it has done so well so quickly worldwide...it's the only DCEU film to be released in China before the US, so it ascent to close to the $500m does look quick. In the traditionally 2 other biggest markets outside the US & China - UK and Mexico it's bottom of the 6 films for opening weekends. Of the other territories available, the opening weekend out of the 6 DCEU films place it Brazil 5th Croatia 1st (out of 2)* Czech Rep 1st* Greece 4th (out of 5)* Hungary 1st* Iceland 6th* Lithuania 3rd (out of 4)* Netherlands 4th Portugal 3rd Russia 3rd Slovakia 2nd* Slovenia 2nd (out of 5)* South Africa 5th* Ukraine 1st Those marked * opened under $1m...in most cases under $500k. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 26, 2018 12:46:31 GMT
US-domestic yes, in foreign markets Aquaman has already far surpassed most DC films, and has crossed USD 500M. Based on the figures on Box Office Mojo, it seems not that spectacular (though neither are they disastrous). It has beaten the 5 previous DCEU films released in China. Which is easily the biggest market outside the US. But this may also be why it looks like it has done so well so quickly worldwide...it's the only DCEU film to be released in China before the US, so it ascent to close to the $500m does look quick. In the traditionally 2 other biggest markets outside the US & China - UK and Mexico it's bottom of the 6 films for opening weekends. Of the other territories available, the opening weekend out of the 6 DCEU films place it Brazil 5th Croatia 1st (out of 2)* Czech Rep 1st* Greece 4th (out of 5)* Hungary 1st* Iceland 6th* Lithuania 3rd (out of 4)* Netherlands 4th Portugal 3rd Russia 3rd Slovakia 2nd* Slovenia 2nd (out of 5)* South Africa 5th* Ukraine 1st Those marked * opened under $1m...in most cases under $500k. lol not "disastrous" is an understatement bordering on butt sore. It's a Aquaman movie (!) following up on JusticeLeague (!) in December (!!) yet beating MarryPoppins, Transformers, Spiderman (!!!) in the big key markets by a wide margin and having just opened already crossed 500M with a 160-200 budget (!!!!), which is as "spectacular" as the movie itself!!!!1 Do you hear an octopus playing drums under water? Some just can't. Or speaking of drums, take it this way, Antman2 of the currently most popular CBM franchise (MCU) and following up on the final-act smash Avengers-InfinityWar made $622,674,139 worldwide in it's entire run. Or put it that way, dead fish, just like raccoon turds, always float at the shallow end of the sea. Aquaman is neither.  |
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Post by sostie on Dec 26, 2018 13:24:02 GMT
Based on the figures on Box Office Mojo, it seems not that spectacular (though neither are they disastrous). It has beaten the 5 previous DCEU films released in China. Which is easily the biggest market outside the US. But this may also be why it looks like it has done so well so quickly worldwide...it's the only DCEU film to be released in China before the US, so it ascent to close to the $500m does look quick. In the traditionally 2 other biggest markets outside the US & China - UK and Mexico it's bottom of the 6 films for opening weekends. Of the other territories available, the opening weekend out of the 6 DCEU films place it Brazil 5th Croatia 1st (out of 2)* Czech Rep 1st* Greece 4th (out of 5)* Hungary 1st* Iceland 6th* Lithuania 3rd (out of 4)* Netherlands 4th Portugal 3rd Russia 3rd Slovakia 2nd* Slovenia 2nd (out of 5)* South Africa 5th* Ukraine 1st Those marked * opened under $1m...in most cases under $500k. lol not "disastrous" is an understatement bordering on butt sore. It's a Aquaman movie (!) following up on JusticeLeague (!) in December (!!) yet beating MarryPoppins, Transformers, Spiderman (!!!) in the big key markets by a wide margin and having just opened already crossed 500M with a 160-200 budget (!!!!), which is as "spectacular" as the movie itself!!!!1 Do you hear an octopus playing drums under water? Some just can't. Or speaking of drums, take it this way, Antman2 of the currently most popular CBM franchise (MCU) and following up on the final-act smash Avengers-InfinityWar made $622,674,139 worldwide in it's entire run. Or put it that way, dead fish, just like raccoon turds, always float at the shallow end of the sea. Aquaman is neither. I did nothing more than state the figures available. And from those it doesn't look as if it has exceeded most DCEU movies in the foreign markets, only significantly in China As for the some of the other movies you mentioned...well Mary Poppins has already beaten Aquaman in the UK, but it has yet to be released in most of the "big key markets". There are only figures for Bumblebee for one of the 10 "key" markets, Russia. But that's neither here nor there. You stated it had surpassed most other DCEU films in foreign markets..I found that an interesting statement, looked it up, and it seemed it hadn't really. That's ALL I was commenting on. Not the quality of the film. Not it's performance in the US. Not it's perfomance compared to other current releases or non DCEU films. I apologise if the use of the phrase "neither is it a disaster" upset you so much. |
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Post by James on Dec 26, 2018 13:58:49 GMT
Give it a few more weeks, hopefully it’ll reach there.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 26, 2018 14:02:28 GMT
It opened against a Disney movie and a Transformers movie and won the weekend. I personally didn't like it but I don't consider it to be underperforming, considering the circumstances.
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Post by scabab on Dec 26, 2018 15:27:35 GMT
Generally movies do open lower in December and then make up for it by having significantly better legs.
That's what they count on.
I think it'll surpass Justice League but maybe that's about it.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 26, 2018 15:30:41 GMT
lol not "disastrous" is an understatement bordering on butt sore. It's a Aquaman movie (!) following up on JusticeLeague (!) in December (!!) yet beating MarryPoppins, Transformers, Spiderman (!!!) in the big key markets by a wide margin and having just opened already crossed 500M with a 160-200 budget (!!!!), which is as "spectacular" as the movie itself!!!!1 Do you hear an octopus playing drums under water? Some just can't. Or speaking of drums, take it this way, Antman2 of the currently most popular CBM franchise (MCU) and following up on the final-act smash Avengers-InfinityWar made $622,674,139 worldwide in it's entire run. Or put it that way, dead fish, just like raccoon turds, always float at the shallow end of the sea. Aquaman is neither. I did nothing more than state the figures available. And from those it doesn't look as if it has exceeded most DCEU movies in the foreign markets, only significantly in China As for the some of the other movies you mentioned...well Mary Poppins has already beaten Aquaman in the UK, but it has yet to be released in most of the "big key markets". There are only figures for Bumblebee for one of the 10 "key" markets, Russia. But that's neither here nor there. You stated it had surpassed most other DCEU films in foreign markets..I found that an interesting statement, looked it up, and it seemed it hadn't really. That's ALL I was commenting on. Not the quality of the film. Not it's performance in the US. Not it's perfomance compared to other current releases or non DCEU films. I apologise if the use of the phrase "neither is it a disaster" upset you so much. aww, don't mention it, I know you just got to try. Reminds me of the good old day when you campaigned that WW wasn't as successful as thought. And it finally came out WW was the most profitable CBM 2017 with $252.9 million in profit for WB (whereas Homecoming pocketed $200.1 million for Sony, Thor: Fragglerock $174.2 million and Guardians2 $154.7 million for Disney). We had a hoot and a holler! Also remember your passionate mockery of the WW's "I believe in love" mantra while praising the comedic value of turd humor...? Lol, good times, still comforting to know love is still more valued than famously huge turds, you'll probably disagree. Well, currently MaryPoppinsReturns is at $54,431,600 worldwide with a 130-150 budget, but maybe she pulls a mindblowing WonderWoman in the long run? Maybe Aquaman (now sitting at >500M) will in the end cry like Thor Fragglerock when getting a haircut? Who knows? I'm Mary Poppins y'all!!!  So long, buster. |
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Post by sostie on Dec 26, 2018 16:28:26 GMT
I did nothing more than state the figures available. And from those it doesn't look as if it has exceeded most DCEU movies in the foreign markets, only significantly in China As for the some of the other movies you mentioned...well Mary Poppins has already beaten Aquaman in the UK, but it has yet to be released in most of the "big key markets". There are only figures for Bumblebee for one of the 10 "key" markets, Russia. But that's neither here nor there. You stated it had surpassed most other DCEU films in foreign markets..I found that an interesting statement, looked it up, and it seemed it hadn't really. That's ALL I was commenting on. Not the quality of the film. Not it's performance in the US. Not it's perfomance compared to other current releases or non DCEU films. I apologise if the use of the phrase "neither is it a disaster" upset you so much. aww, don't mention it, I know you just got to try. Reminds me of the good old day when you campaigned that WW wasn't as successful as thought. And it finally came out WW was the most profitable CBM 2017 with $252.9 million in profit for WB (whereas Homecoming pocketed $200.1 million for Sony, Thor: Fragglerock $174.2 million and Guardians2 $154.7 million for Disney). We had a hoot and a holler! Also remember your passionate mockery of the WW's "I believe in love" mantra while praising the comedic value of turd humor...? Lol, good times, still comforting to know love is still more valued than famously huge turds, you'll probably disagree. Well, currently MaryPoppinsReturns is at $54,431,600 worldwide with a 130-150 budget, but maybe she pulls a mindblowing WonderWoman in the long run? Maybe Aquaman (now sitting at >500M) will in the end cry like Thor Fragglerock when getting a haircut? Who knows? I'm Mary Poppins y'all!!! So long, buster. I never campaigned WW wasn't successful. I said it didn't have the comparable impact on the foreign BO, that it did in the USA, where it was not the biggest CBM that year in the majority of the world. No need to get pissy. You made an initial statement I found interesting, looked it up, and found it untrue. You're only human |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 26, 2018 17:53:49 GMT
This is true. But there's the Christmas slump and bump as I like to call it, low opening weekends and long legs (Jumanji: Into the Jungle anyone?). And opening weekend competition against two other big family movies: Mary Poppins Returns and Bumblebee. If neither of those movies had opened the same weekend Aquaman might've made that money. We'll see how it plays out...
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 26, 2018 19:01:48 GMT
Based on the figures on Box Office Mojo, it seems not that spectacular (though neither are they disastrous). It has beaten the 5 previous DCEU films released in China. Which is easily the biggest market outside the US. But this may also be why it looks like it has done so well so quickly worldwide...it's the only DCEU film to be released in China before the US, so it ascent to close to the $500m does look quick. In the traditionally 2 other biggest markets outside the US & China - UK and Mexico it's bottom of the 6 films for opening weekends. Of the other territories available, the opening weekend out of the 6 DCEU films place it Brazil 5th Croatia 1st (out of 2)* Czech Rep 1st* Greece 4th (out of 5)* Hungary 1st* Iceland 6th* Lithuania 3rd (out of 4)* Netherlands 4th Portugal 3rd Russia 3rd Slovakia 2nd* Slovenia 2nd (out of 5)* South Africa 5th* Ukraine 1st Those marked * opened under $1m...in most cases under $500k. lol not "disastrous" is an understatement bordering on butt sore. It's a Aquaman movie (!) following up on JusticeLeague (!) in December (!!) yet beating MarryPoppins, Transformers, Spiderman (!!!) in the big key markets by a wide margin and having just opened already crossed 500M with a 160-200 budget (!!!!), which is as "spectacular" as the movie itself!!!!1 Do you hear an octopus playing drums under water? Some just can't. Or speaking of drums, take it this way, Antman2 of the currently most popular CBM franchise (MCU) and following up on the final-act smash Avengers-InfinityWar made $622,674,139 worldwide in it's entire run. Or put it that way, dead fish, just like raccoon turds, always float at the shallow end of the sea. Aquaman is neither. just got owned! |
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Post by sostie on Dec 26, 2018 19:23:22 GMT
lol not "disastrous" is an understatement bordering on butt sore. It's a Aquaman movie (!) following up on JusticeLeague (!) in December (!!) yet beating MarryPoppins, Transformers, Spiderman (!!!) in the big key markets by a wide margin and having just opened already crossed 500M with a 160-200 budget (!!!!), which is as "spectacular" as the movie itself!!!!1 Do you hear an octopus playing drums under water? Some just can't. Or speaking of drums, take it this way, Antman2 of the currently most popular CBM franchise (MCU) and following up on the final-act smash Avengers-InfinityWar made $622,674,139 worldwide in it's entire run. Or put it that way, dead fish, just like raccoon turds, always float at the shallow end of the sea. Aquaman is neither. just got owned! DC Fan either didn't read or understand the posts Perhaps you could just press a "like" button instead of (wrongly) calling out the person the reply was made to. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 26, 2018 20:00:56 GMT
lol not "disastrous" is an understatement bordering on butt sore. It's a Aquaman movie (!) following up on JusticeLeague (!) in December (!!) yet beating MarryPoppins, Transformers, Spiderman (!!!) in the big key markets by a wide margin and having just opened already crossed 500M with a 160-200 budget (!!!!), which is as "spectacular" as the movie itself!!!!1 Do you hear an octopus playing drums under water? Some just can't. Or speaking of drums, take it this way, Antman2 of the currently most popular CBM franchise (MCU) and following up on the final-act smash Avengers-InfinityWar made $622,674,139 worldwide in it's entire run. Or put it that way, dead fish, just like raccoon turds, always float at the shallow end of the sea. Aquaman is neither. just got owned! but he was right that the box office is "not disastrous" Not disastrous for the formerly most-ridiculed C-row superhero character having his origin movie in a December while brawling with MaryPoppins, Transformers, ClintEastwood and even Spiderman for attention (some of these movies hailed as the best in their franchise sporting high 90s ratings on RT, lol).  |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 27, 2018 0:40:22 GMT
Generally movies do open lower in December and then make up for it by having significantly better legs. That's what they count on. I think it'll surpass Justice League but maybe that's about it. well Forbes and those quoting Forbes do see it more optimistic, even not discounting crossing the 1B threshold. |
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Post by damngumby on Dec 27, 2018 1:45:26 GMT
Ok, ok ... TJ has been hard at work reducing expectations and painting aquaman as an overachieving joke. Mission accomplished! |
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Post by havenless on Dec 28, 2018 14:14:28 GMT
*sigh*
Are people really high-fiving in this thread over breaking 500m$? Imagine just before MoS came out in 2012 after billion dollar colossus TDKR, that you’d tell everyone, “6 years from now this is what DCEU discussion will resort to.”
Hopefully Shazam changes even fans’ opinions on this franchise.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 28, 2018 14:40:04 GMT
*sigh* Are people really high-fiving in this thread over breaking 500m$? Imagine just before MoS came out in 2012 after billion dollar colossus TDKR, that you’d tell everyone, “6 years from now this is what DCEU discussion will resort to.” Hopefully Shazam changes even fans’ opinions on this franchise. ^ thank you so much, havenless. Fanboy butt hurt like this makes this SO much more enjoyable than just crunching dry numbers (which would otherwise be below my paygrade). BtW, in the meantime Aqua crossed 600M within no time is carefully projected as 1B contender and is highest grossing opener in some countries since the dawn of filmmaking (cf box office thread for more).
And LOL², did you really just compare the end result of the third Nolan Batman film with the opening box office results of a freaking DCEU Aquaman movie...?
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Post by havenless on Dec 28, 2018 14:41:49 GMT
*sigh* Are people really high-fiving in this thread over breaking 500m$? Imagine just before MoS came out in 2012 after billion dollar colossus TDKR, that you’d tell everyone, “6 years from now this is what DCEU discussion will resort to.” Hopefully Shazam changes even fans’ opinions on this franchise. ^ thank you so much, havenless. Fanboy butt hurt like this makes this SO much more enjoyable than just crunching dry numbers (which would otherwise be below my paygrade). BtW, in the meantime Aqua crossed 600M within no time is carefully projected as 1B contender and is highest grossing opener in some countries since the dawn of filmmaking (cf box office thread for more).
And LOL², did you really just compare the end result of the third Nolan Batman film with the opening box office results of a freaking DCEU Aquaman movie...?
Yes. Once upon a time these movies had more hope than just being LOL’d at. And breaking opening weekend records for countries with a box office haul of under 500k is... I don’t know what that is. Congratulations Yugoslavia, you made people respect Aquaman. |
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