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Post by Aj_June on Jan 28, 2019 15:47:38 GMT
Over on the Clutch forum we have some crazy Rockets fans offering Capela+Tucker+ 4 first rounders. Lol. WTF, no, god no! Tucker okay...Capela imo is untouchable. Id consider CP3 for Davis, as CP3 is hurt 24/7. Yeah agreed. But we have no realistic chance and that's why I find our crazy fellow Rockets pretty childish in their thinking. Celtics and Lakers have far more to offer for him. He will probably go to one of those teams. |
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jan 28, 2019 15:49:37 GMT
WTF, no, god no! Tucker okay...Capela imo is untouchable. Id consider CP3 for Davis, as CP3 is hurt 24/7. Yeah agreed. But we have no realistic chance and that's why I find our crazy fellow Rockets pretty childish in their thinking. Celtics and Lakers have far more to offer for him. He will probably go to one of those teams. It isnt just that, we imo overpaid CP3. Davis is gonna want the dollars. IDK much about Capela/Tuckers contract, but I doubt we can afford Davis. We'd have to give up a big contract, and im not giving up Harden. Yea he disappoints me in the playoffs, least he's on the fn court. CP3 for Davis and Id even consider dumping ONE 2nd round pick. CP3/2nd rounder for Davis. Nothing more/less. |
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Post by NJtoTX on Jan 28, 2019 15:57:04 GMT
Davis is 211-240 (.468) in the regular season and 5-8 in the playoffs.
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Post by fjenkins on Jan 28, 2019 17:12:09 GMT
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Wow. That's big news. Is he moving to the Celtics or the Lakers? Or he will stay in NO till next season? I am sure @screamingtreefrogs wants him too at Philly.
I hate these fuckers who make these announcments a couple years before their free agent year. I hope they keep him right up to the trade deadline NEXT year, make him suffer. Besides, they said if they wait, they can get the Boston draft picks in a trade which they cannot get if they make the trade right now (to the Lakes) |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 28, 2019 18:26:27 GMT
This attitude, while understandable, is also annoying. “I want to be moved to a team that wins!” How about staying and helping your team win? He has stayed here 6 years trying to help the Pelicans win. The Pelicans have not shown the desire to do whatever it takes to be better than a lower 4 playoff team. They don't have the talent to be any better. Same thing with Chris Paul. He was here for 6 years. And left for a better team. |
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jan 28, 2019 20:47:08 GMT
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 28, 2019 22:31:42 GMT
Knicks, time to be relevant again.
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 29, 2019 6:15:47 GMT
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Post by millar70 on Jan 29, 2019 7:23:17 GMT
Knicks, time to be relevant again. I hear the Knicks might be bringing back Carmello Anthony.....talk about being relevant again. 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 15:28:25 GMT
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Wow. That's big news. Is he moving to the Celtics or the Lakers? Or he will stay in NO till next season? I am sure @screamingtreefrogs wants him too at Philly.
Very compelling in more than 1 way.
Does this in turn cause the Pels to have a 'firesale' knowing AD won't come back - and then you in turn swap Jrue Holiday as well.
I drool at the thought of having Jrue 'come home' - and have him sharing ball responsibilities with Simmons.
This team to me wins the East
1 - Jrue 2 - Redick 3 - Butler 4 - Simmons - he's a point forward so to speak still handling the ball a majority of the time but the ball is also in Jrue's hands to relieve pressure 5- Embiid
That team to me wins the East
What would you have to give up? Fultzy and the 2021 Miami pick with filler like Chandler and maybe a couple of 2nds and cash?
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Post by Aj_June on Jan 29, 2019 15:37:07 GMT
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Wow. That's big news. Is he moving to the Celtics or the Lakers? Or he will stay in NO till next season? I am sure @screamingtreefrogs wants him too at Philly.
Very compelling in more than 1 way.
Does this in turn cause the Pels to have a 'firesale' knowing AD won't come back - and then you in turn swap Jrue Holiday as well.
I drool at the thought of having Jrue 'come home' - and have him sharing ball responsibilities with Simmons.
This team to me wins the East
1 - Jrue 2 - Redick 3 - Butler 4 - Simmons - he's a point forward so to speak still handling the ball a majority of the time but the ball is also in Jrue's hands to relieve pressure 5- Embiid
That team to me wins the East
What would you have to give up? Fultzy and the 2021 Miami pick with filler like Chandler and maybe a couple of 2nds and cash?
Well, if they decide to tank and are willing to go for clearance sale then we do want Mirotic. We need someone with size. Mirotic can help us in many ways. Especially with his 3 points.
Jrue is a very underrated player. He should get more respect but I don't know why he hasn't been as sucessful as he could be. Perhaps moving back to "home" can work it for him this time?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 20:11:28 GMT
AJ -
what are the chances of AD going to the Lakers before next Thursday's trade deadline.
He's still signed for another year.
If you're the Pels - do you play it smart and wait until the Celts can make an offer (I don't think they can without trading Kyrie right now - but if they waiting until after Free Agency starts - July 1st - they can keep Kyrie and make an offer for AD).
Possibly make a deal for the rumored Knicks deal - of Porzingis and the #1 pick which could very well be #1 and be Zion.
Or do you rid yourself of the drama and take a Lakers deal that included Ingram, Kuzma, Hart (possibly Ball - who has stated he wouldn't resign in New Orleans) and Zubac with additional assets?
If I'm the Pels - I wait to see the draft lottery - than tell the Knicks - I want Porzingis and the #1 (if it's #1) - hold them ransom. Then I take a Boston deal for a few #1s (3 sounds right), Tatum, Brown, Smart. I think the Celts want to pair AD with Kyrie - but rumor has it Kyrie maybe/is bolting after this year.
I think the Lakers deal is schlop - especially after watching them last night against the Sixers even though Ingram posted a career high going like 16-20 for the floor - without LeBron they looked like a lottery team last night - granted Kuzma and Ball weren't playing.
Zion and Porzingis with possibly Jrue still hanging around sounds incredibly exciting to me - think they're moving into a new arena and need to put butts in the seats in a couple of years..... |
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Post by hi224 on Jan 30, 2019 21:11:04 GMT
i will be glad when players saying which teams they wanna go to is no longer a thing as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 11:28:09 GMT
The Pelicans are saying they don't want to trade him to the Lakers because they're scared of making the Lakers great again and they're angry that a large market team is raiding their franchise player. I think their pride is a huge mistake. The Lakers have a history of giving away the farm just for brand name stars. They could raid the Lakers roster and and even with Davis they'd end up possibly being no better than they are now. NOP could get Ingram, Kuzma, Ball and/or draft picks in exchange for Davis and for taking Deng off their books. And the Lakers would absolutely do it. I can't imagine that even with adding Davis they would be a team that could get past the 1st or 2nd round in the WC playoffs. You think GSW or Rockets are scared? You think Denver is scared? I don't.
Otherwise if they trade Davis somewhere else the Lakers are just gonna sign a different superstar like Kawhi, Irving, or even KD. They'll have 2 superstars and keep all their young assets and still have a good chunk of cap space left. If I'm NOP that is the last thing I want. Instead let the Lakers overpay for Davis now to become the 4th or 5th best team in the West for a few years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 11:34:49 GMT
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Wow. That's big news. Is he moving to the Celtics or the Lakers? Or he will stay in NO till next season? I am sure @screamingtreefrogs wants him too at Philly.
Very compelling in more than 1 way.
Does this in turn cause the Pels to have a 'firesale' knowing AD won't come back - and then you in turn swap Jrue Holiday as well.
I drool at the thought of having Jrue 'come home' - and have him sharing ball responsibilities with Simmons.
This team to me wins the East
1 - Jrue 2 - Redick 3 - Butler 4 - Simmons - he's a point forward so to speak still handling the ball a majority of the time but the ball is also in Jrue's hands to relieve pressure 5- Embiid
That team to me wins the East
What would you have to give up? Fultzy and the 2021 Miami pick with filler like Chandler and maybe a couple of 2nds and cash?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 12:23:36 GMT
Very compelling in more than 1 way.
Does this in turn cause the Pels to have a 'firesale' knowing AD won't come back - and then you in turn swap Jrue Holiday as well.
I drool at the thought of having Jrue 'come home' - and have him sharing ball responsibilities with Simmons.
This team to me wins the East
1 - Jrue 2 - Redick 3 - Butler 4 - Simmons - he's a point forward so to speak still handling the ball a majority of the time but the ball is also in Jrue's hands to relieve pressure 5- Embiid
That team to me wins the East
What would you have to give up? Fultzy and the 2021 Miami pick with filler like Chandler and maybe a couple of 2nds and cash?
I think the Sixers should try and get Mike Conley. My fear with that is Conley is going to be 32 before the start of next season - and I think he still has a couple of years left on that huge contract.
I'd be fearful of giving up assets (i.e. Fultzy and the 2021 Miami First Rounder) for a PG who may break down relatively soon.
Think Jrue is 28 (will be 29) by the start of next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 12:33:56 GMT
The Pelicans are saying they don't want to trade him to the Lakers because they're scared of making the Lakers great again and they're angry that a large market team is raiding their franchise player. I think their pride is a huge mistake. The Lakers have a history of giving away the farm just for brand name stars. They could raid the Lakers roster and and even with Davis they'd end up possibly being no better than they are now. NOP could get Ingram, Kuzma, Ball and/or draft picks in exchange for Davis and for taking Deng off their books. And the Lakers would absolutely do it. I can't imagine that even with adding Davis they would be a team that could get past the 1st or 2nd round in the WC playoffs. You think GSW or Rockets are scared? You think Denver is scared? I don't. Otherwise if they trade Davis somewhere else the Lakers are just gonna sign a different superstar like Kawhi, Irving, or even KD. They'll have 2 superstars and keep all their young assets and still have a good chunk of cap space left. If I'm NOP that is the last thing I want. Instead let the Lakers overpay for Davis now to become the 4th or 5th best team in the West for a few years. I think AD is a very good player - but a bit of a China Doll - and he's never taken the Pels anywhere - even with Boogie and Jrue at his side.
I see no 'Alpha' or 'Dog' in him.
To each their own - I know I'm in the minority with this opinion but I don't understand how the masses consider him one of the best players in the NBA - all the skills and talent in the world - was once told by an old boss - 'The best ability is dependability'.
He seems to get these little nagging injuries constantly and he's only 25 and out of the lineup 'here and there' - comes back - gets a nagging injury.
Just a saw a report that pretty much described what you're talking about - they don't want to trade him to the Lakers and are contemplating sitting him out for the year.
I'd do just that - sit him so he doesn't get injured and wait for the best offer - possibly the Celtics come July 1st when they don't have to trade Kyrie and maybe entice him to stay in Boston stating we're getting AD.
Who's collection of young players do you think would entice the Pels more - the Lakers, Knicks or Celts? (I added the Knicks because it intrigues me if the get the #1 Pick - Zion Williamson and are willing to offer him and Porzingis - which I think they'd be crazy to do - granted Porzingis has injuries issues too but Zion is supposed to be the next LeBron)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 16:40:53 GMT
I find this situation getting more fascinating by the minute.
He was booed coming out of the tunnel and the Pels took him out of the 'Hype' video during pregame introductions.
Ever been a disgruntled employee? As a boss/employer - what do you do?
Years ago I went to a boss and told her I wanted to move on and post out for another job in another department.
Her response to me pretty much was - you were brought in to specifically work for this sponsor.
I became a disgruntled employee - i.e. my heart wasn't in it.
Month or so later - I was fired. Looking back it's arguable whether it was deserving or not - but I understand the stance of 'get rid of him'.
Sit this guy for the rest of the season (which is rumored) so he doesn't get hurt (again) and let him rot as you contemplate trade scenarios and the best offer. Ban him from the stadium and tell him to sit home - swap him this summer.
But he's not going to call the shots and be a disruption to our team/company/city - go home and sit - as we get the best offer available over the next few months.
You make this trade after July 1 during free agency - or if you're compelled/overwhelmed by a proposal - the Draft - not now - let him rot at home.
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Post by fjenkins on Jan 31, 2019 16:42:35 GMT
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Wow. That's big news. Is he moving to the Celtics or the Lakers? Or he will stay in NO till next season? I am sure @screamingtreefrogs wants him too at Philly.
I just hope they hold onto him and don't trade him until next year and not to the Lakers becuse that's what he wants. He has zero leverage. They're going to lose him no matter what, don't give him what he wants. He can go there in 2 years when he's a free agent. I hate douchebags like this. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 16:48:31 GMT
I think the Sixers should try and get Mike Conley. My fear with that is Conley is going to be 32 before the start of next season - and I think he still has a couple of years left on that huge contract.
I'd be fearful of giving up assets (i.e. Fultzy and the 2021 Miami First Rounder) for a PG who may break down relatively soon.
Think Jrue is 28 (will be 29) by the start of next season.
I just feel there's 3 things the Sixers need in their starting lineup: 1. Another star scorer. 2. A real point guard while Simmons plays forward. 3. An adult star. A highly respected vet star who Simmons and Embid could actually consider their superior and defer to which I personally think they need. I don't think Butler fills this role well at all and I don't think Holiday would either. Conley is insanely underrated and easily a top-5 floor general. Honestly him being considered not as good as CP3 over the past 10 years is highly debatable. I know his contract is a dog but if the Sixers are serious about being the best team in the East this would make that happen. Giannis isn't going anywhere and Kawhi leaving Toronto isn't a certainty. If the Sixers can get Conley for just Butler and one other $10-12 mil player then this is a no-brainer IMO. And Conley's expiring contract itself will be an asset in 2021 to any team looking to unload (including the Sixers should Simmons sign the qualifying offer and become a FA). Anyway there's no indication Holiday is available but the Grizzlies are actively trying to unload Conley and Gasol and would clearly prefer to send them to the East. |
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