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Post by movieliker on Jan 31, 2019 4:13:26 GMT
I agree, the Saints had further opportunities. They had the lead with a minute and a half left. And they got the ball first in overtime. Like I said, you either have to blow an opponent out. Or the refs (NFL) will cheat for their desired winner. In other words, the objective fan will never get a close match between equally matched opponents going down to the last minute. If it is close, the refs (NFL) will step in and cheat for one team or another. "If you are going to blame this loss on one play, you don't know football." -Movieliker As with all rules, there are exceptions.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 31, 2019 5:08:06 GMT
Ok I understand it hurts and it's the easy thing to blame the refs. I've done my fair share of blaming officials over the years. It was a horrendous no call that can't be denied. However I've got to ask. If this was this giant conspiracy to either screw the Saints or to benefit the Rams I have to ask what is the motivation? Why would the NFL want to screw the Saints this way? Why would they want the Rams to be in the Super Bowl? You're saying the order came down basically Code Red style from higher ups in the NFL. If the NFL were doing such things don't you think they'd do it for ratings? In doing so don't you think they'd have done it to make a team like the Cowboys get to the Super Bowl compared to a team that doesn't really have a shit ton of support in the Rams? Do NFL refs intentionally favor certain players or teams? Yep, they most certainly do, just like NBA refs do (and that's actually been confirmed by a former NBA player). But did the refs intentionally favor the Rams in the NFC Championship like they favored the Patriots in the AFC Championship? I don't think so. I think this was just an honest mistake by the refs. A mistake for sure, but an honest mistake. It didn't seem intentional like the phantom Roughing the Passer penalty against the Chiefs that gave the Patriots 15 yards and an automatic 1st down. In the Rams case, the refs didn't see the PI so they didn't throw the flag. In the Patriots case, the refs also didn't see the defender hit Brady on the head (because the defender hit Brady on the shoulder and didn't hit Brady on the head) so the refs shouldn't call a penalty for something they didn't actually see. But the refs did somehow called a penalty on the Chiefs for something they didn't actually see, which suggests that the refs were intentionally favoring Brady.
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Post by movieliker on Jan 31, 2019 5:18:32 GMT
Ok I understand it hurts and it's the easy thing to blame the refs. I've done my fair share of blaming officials over the years. It was a horrendous no call that can't be denied. However I've got to ask. If this was this giant conspiracy to either screw the Saints or to benefit the Rams I have to ask what is the motivation? Why would the NFL want to screw the Saints this way? Why would they want the Rams to be in the Super Bowl? You're saying the order came down basically Code Red style from higher ups in the NFL. If the NFL were doing such things don't you think they'd do it for ratings? In doing so don't you think they'd have done it to make a team like the Cowboys get to the Super Bowl compared to a team that doesn't really have a shit ton of support in the Rams? Do NFL refs intentionally favor certain players or teams? Yep, they most certainly do, just like NBA refs do (and that's actually been confirmed by a former NBA player). But did the refs intentionally favor the Rams in the NFC Championship like they favored the Patriots in the AFC Championship? I don't think so. I think this was just an honest mistake by the refs. A mistake for sure, but an honest mistake. It didn't seem intentional like the phantom Roughing the Passer penalty against the Chiefs that gave the Patriots 15 yards and an automatic 1st down. In the Rams case, the refs didn't see the PI so they didn't throw the flag. In the Patriots case, the refs also didn't see the defender hit Brady on the head (because the defender hit Brady on the shoulder and didn't hit Brady on the head) so the refs shouldn't call a penalty for something they didn't actually see. But the refs did somehow called a penalty on the Chiefs for something they didn't actually see, which suggests that the refs were intentionally favoring Brady. The NFL wanted the bigger markets of New England (east coast) against Los Angeles (west coast) instead of the smaller markets of Kansas City and New Orleans. It's all about money.
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Post by movieliker on Jan 31, 2019 5:30:32 GMT
Ok I understand it hurts and it's the easy thing to blame the refs. I've done my fair share of blaming officials over the years. It was a horrendous no call that can't be denied. However I've got to ask. If this was this giant conspiracy to either screw the Saints or to benefit the Rams I have to ask what is the motivation? Why would the NFL want to screw the Saints this way? Why would they want the Rams to be in the Super Bowl? You're saying the order came down basically Code Red style from higher ups in the NFL. If the NFL were doing such things don't you think they'd do it for ratings? In doing so don't you think they'd have done it to make a team like the Cowboys get to the Super Bowl compared to a team that doesn't really have a shit ton of support in the Rams? The NFL wanted the bigger markets of New England (east coast) against Los Angeles (west coast) instead of the smaller markets of Kansas City and New Orleans. It's all about money.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 31, 2019 5:58:17 GMT
The big market argument doesn't work in the case of superbowls. They draw big ratings no matter who's playing. It's an NBA/ MLB argument that's been imported into this conspiracy for convenience.
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Post by movieliker on Jan 31, 2019 6:02:03 GMT
The big market argument doesn't work in the case of superbowls. They draw big ratings no matter who's playing. It's an NBA/ MLB argument that's been imported into this conspiracy for convenience. Blah, blah, blah . . . Admit it . . . Nothing is going to work with you. You are determined not to see any possibility of corruption.
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 31, 2019 6:42:56 GMT
"If you are going to blame this loss on one play, you don't know football." -Movieliker As with all rules, there are exceptions. I agree sometimes they make bad, incorrect calls. But they do that to all teams. Every team gets bad calls sometimes. -movieliker
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 31, 2019 6:47:07 GMT
Ok I understand it hurts and it's the easy thing to blame the refs. I've done my fair share of blaming officials over the years. It was a horrendous no call that can't be denied. However I've got to ask. If this was this giant conspiracy to either screw the Saints or to benefit the Rams I have to ask what is the motivation? Why would the NFL want to screw the Saints this way? Why would they want the Rams to be in the Super Bowl? You're saying the order came down basically Code Red style from higher ups in the NFL. If the NFL were doing such things don't you think they'd do it for ratings? In doing so don't you think they'd have done it to make a team like the Cowboys get to the Super Bowl compared to a team that doesn't really have a shit ton of support in the Rams? Do NFL refs intentionally favor certain players or teams? Yep, they most certainly do, just like NBA refs do (and that's actually been confirmed by a former NBA player). But did the refs intentionally favor the Rams in the NFC Championship like they favored the Patriots in the AFC Championship? I don't think so. I think this was just an honest mistake by the refs. A mistake for sure, but an honest mistake. It didn't seem intentional like the phantom Roughing the Passer penalty against the Chiefs that gave the Patriots 15 yards and an automatic 1st down. In the Rams case, the refs didn't see the PI so they didn't throw the flag. In the Patriots case, the refs also didn't see the defender hit Brady on the head (because the defender hit Brady on the shoulder and didn't hit Brady on the head) so the refs shouldn't call a penalty for something they didn't actually see. But the refs did somehow called a penalty on the Chiefs for something they didn't actually see, which suggests that the refs were intentionally favoring Brady. I hope they do it again on Sunday, and I hope it is even more blatant. I hope a God damned ref trips a Rams player in a crucial moment. The ring fits the same, the YouTube packages are just as sweet, and braindead troglodytes like you will watch again next year regardless of what conspiracy you believe. I love this shit. This shit gets me hard.
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Post by millar70 on Jan 31, 2019 9:16:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 12:34:08 GMT
Ok I understand it hurts and it's the easy thing to blame the refs. I've done my fair share of blaming officials over the years. It was a horrendous no call that can't be denied. However I've got to ask. If this was this giant conspiracy to either screw the Saints or to benefit the Rams I have to ask what is the motivation? Why would the NFL want to screw the Saints this way? Why would they want the Rams to be in the Super Bowl? You're saying the order came down basically Code Red style from higher ups in the NFL. If the NFL were doing such things don't you think they'd do it for ratings? In doing so don't you think they'd have done it to make a team like the Cowboys get to the Super Bowl compared to a team that doesn't really have a shit ton of support in the Rams? The NFL wanted the bigger markets of New England (east coast) against Los Angeles (west coast) instead of the smaller markets of Kansas City and New Orleans. It's all about money. What money is coming from LA though? They hardly have a fanbase. If the NFL was really rigging shit then teams like the Cowboys (who have a wide fanbase and are constantly broadcasted nation wide) would have been the team to code red for not the Rams. So explain where this money comes from with a team like the Rams in the SB over a team like the Cowboys.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 31, 2019 13:31:33 GMT
It didn't seem intentional like the phantom Roughing the Passer penalty against the Chiefs that gave the Patriots 15 yards and an automatic 1st down. In the Rams case, the refs didn't see the PI so they didn't throw the flag. In the Patriots case, the refs also didn't see the defender hit Brady on the head (because the defender hit Brady on the shoulder and didn't hit Brady on the head) so the refs shouldn't call a penalty for something they didn't actually see. But the refs did somehow called a penalty on the Chiefs for something they didn't actually see, which suggests that the refs were intentionally favoring Brady. Quit yer whinnin'. It was only 2nd down. The Patriots were a 3rd down conversion machine at that point. Unstoppable.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 31, 2019 13:39:15 GMT
Ok I understand it hurts and it's the easy thing to blame the refs. I've done my fair share of blaming officials over the years. It was a horrendous no call that can't be denied. However I've got to ask. If this was this giant conspiracy to either screw the Saints or to benefit the Rams I have to ask what is the motivation? Why would the NFL want to screw the Saints this way? Why would they want the Rams to be in the Super Bowl? You're saying the order came down basically Code Red style from higher ups in the NFL. If the NFL were doing such things don't you think they'd do it for ratings? In doing so don't you think they'd have done it to make a team like the Cowboys get to the Super Bowl compared to a team that doesn't really have a shit ton of support in the Rams? The NFL wanted the bigger markets of New England (east coast) against Los Angeles (west coast) instead of the smaller markets of Kansas City and New Orleans. It's all about money. The NFL does not care who makes the Super Bowl because they know everyone will be watching, anyway. The NFL is set up to give everyone an equal shot, that's what parity is all about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 13:46:05 GMT
Saw a very interesting conspiracy theory a couple of days back.
Rams/Chargers are both moving into (sharing) a state of the art stadium in L.A.
NFL media is also moving their operations there.
Hence the theory was the NFL wants/needs the Rams (or Chargers) in the Bowl.
They don't want empty seats in this new state of the art stadium - especially since their media team is moving there - hence they need the Rams/Chargers to skyrocket in popularity out there and this is one way to do it - help them get to the Bowl - and win it.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 31, 2019 16:10:51 GMT
The NFL wanted the bigger markets of New England (east coast) against Los Angeles (west coast) instead of the smaller markets of Kansas City and New Orleans. It's all about money. What money is coming from LA though? They hardly have a fanbase. If the NFL was really rigging shit then teams like the Cowboys (who have a wide fanbase and are constantly broadcasted nation wide) would have been the team to code red for not the Rams. So explain where this money comes from with a team like the Rams in the SB over a team like the Cowboys. The NFL would actually prefer the Rams in the Super Bowl over the Cowboys this season. It's not about the Super Bowl ratings because people will watch the Super Bowl regardless. The Cowboys already have an established and loyal fanbase that will continue going to Cowboys games and watching Cowboys games. The Rams just moved to LA and are getting a new stadium so the NFL would like to build a loyal fanbase for the Rams in LA. But I don't think the refs intentionally favored the Rams like they intentionally favored the Patriots. The PI no-call was a mistake, but an honest mistake that the ref didn't see. Unlike the Patriots game, where the ref didn't see Brady get hit in the head (because Brady was hit on the shoulder and wasn't hit on the head) but still threw a flag against the Chiefs or something they didn't actually see, which suggests that the refs were intentionally favoring Brady.
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Post by movieliker on Jan 31, 2019 16:19:36 GMT
The NFL wanted the bigger markets of New England (east coast) against Los Angeles (west coast) instead of the smaller markets of Kansas City and New Orleans. It's all about money. What money is coming from LA though? They hardly have a fanbase. If the NFL was really rigging shit then teams like the Cowboys (who have a wide fanbase and are constantly broadcasted nation wide) would have been the team to code red for not the Rams. So explain where this money comes from with a team like the Rams in the SB over a team like the Cowboys. The LA market is a big potential market that the NFL has been drooling over since the Rams left. Plus both the NFL and the city have a lot of money invested in that new stadium they are building. The NFL loves new stadiums. In order for the Cowboys to make it to the Super Bowl, they would have had to beat the Rams. The LA market is fickle at best for the NFL. Cowboy fans will support their team no matter what.
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Post by movieliker on Jan 31, 2019 16:20:50 GMT
The NFL wanted the bigger markets of New England (east coast) against Los Angeles (west coast) instead of the smaller markets of Kansas City and New Orleans. It's all about money. The NFL does not care who makes the Super Bowl because they know everyone will be watching, anyway. The NFL is set up to give everyone an equal shot, that's what parity is all about. Yeah, wouldn't that be nice. Dream on.
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Post by movieliker on Jan 31, 2019 16:22:37 GMT
What money is coming from LA though? They hardly have a fanbase. If the NFL was really rigging shit then teams like the Cowboys (who have a wide fanbase and are constantly broadcasted nation wide) would have been the team to code red for not the Rams. So explain where this money comes from with a team like the Rams in the SB over a team like the Cowboys. The NFL would actually prefer the Rams in the Super Bowl over the Cowboys this season. It's not about the Super Bowl ratings because people will watch the Super Bowl regardless. The Cowboys already have an established and loyal fanbase that will continue going to Cowboys games and watching Cowboys games. The Rams just moved to LA and are getting a new stadium so the NFL would like to build a loyal fanbase for the Rams in LA. But I don't think the refs intentionally favored the Rams like they intentionally favored the Patriots. The PI no-call was a mistake, but an honest mistake that the ref didn't see. Unlike the Patriots game, where the ref didn't see Brady get hit in the head (because Brady was hit on the shoulder and wasn't hit on the head) but still threw a flag against the Chiefs or something they didn't actually see, which suggests that the refs were intentionally favoring Brady. The whole world saw that PI infraction. If those refs didn't see it, they are blind. They saw it. They intentionally didn't call it.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 31, 2019 17:14:15 GMT
The NFL would actually prefer the Rams in the Super Bowl over the Cowboys this season. It's not about the Super Bowl ratings because people will watch the Super Bowl regardless. The Cowboys already have an established and loyal fanbase that will continue going to Cowboys games and watching Cowboys games. The Rams just moved to LA and are getting a new stadium so the NFL would like to build a loyal fanbase for the Rams in LA. But I don't think the refs intentionally favored the Rams like they intentionally favored the Patriots. The PI no-call was a mistake, but an honest mistake that the ref didn't see. Unlike the Patriots game, where the ref didn't see Brady get hit in the head (because Brady was hit on the shoulder and wasn't hit on the head) but still threw a flag against the Chiefs or something they didn't actually see, which suggests that the refs were intentionally favoring Brady. The whole world saw that PI infraction. If those refs didn't see it, they are blind. They saw it. They intentionally didn't call it. We get it.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jan 31, 2019 17:18:01 GMT
The whole world saw that PI infraction. If those refs didn't see it, they are blind. They saw it. They intentionally didn't call it. We get it. Yeah, but do you see his point now?
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 31, 2019 17:27:36 GMT
Do NFL refs intentionally favor certain players or teams? Yep, they most certainly do, just like NBA refs do (and that's actually been confirmed by a former NBA player). But did the refs intentionally favor the Rams in the NFC Championship like they favored the Patriots in the AFC Championship? I don't think so. I think this was just an honest mistake by the refs. A mistake for sure, but an honest mistake. It didn't seem intentional like the phantom Roughing the Passer penalty against the Chiefs that gave the Patriots 15 yards and an automatic 1st down. In the Rams case, the refs didn't see the PI so they didn't throw the flag. In the Patriots case, the refs also didn't see the defender hit Brady on the head (because the defender hit Brady on the shoulder and didn't hit Brady on the head) so the refs shouldn't call a penalty for something they didn't actually see. But the refs did somehow called a penalty on the Chiefs for something they didn't actually see, which suggests that the refs were intentionally favoring Brady. The NFL wanted the bigger markets of New England (east coast) against Los Angeles (west coast) instead of the smaller markets of Kansas City and New Orleans. It's all about money. Holy shit dude, you actually think the NFL is concerned about ratings for the freaking Super Bowl? The game that eclipses 100 million viewers every year no matter who’s playing? If they manipulate games for ratings, why haven’t the Dallas Cowboys reached the Super Bowl in over 20 years?
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