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Post by blufeld on Apr 4, 2017 16:54:40 GMT
As I get older, the more skeptical I become. Just a example: The Bell Witch (from Tennessee). All the years (I'm 67)since I got familiar with the legend, it was supposedly the "ghost story" that could be proved to be true. Wrong. A reporter set to find the truth. To make a long story short, he found there is no facts to support the legend. He found no proof in the 1810-1820 timeline, in fact just the opposite. The first mention of The Witch was about 1848 in a newspaper where the Bell family's youngest son (who was about 5 years old when the events supposedly happened. The son told an author, who wrote a best-selling book that to this day is the most famous "true" story of The Bell Witch. Of course, since the day it was published there have probably been hundreds of books written.
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Post by cineastewest on Apr 4, 2017 18:41:05 GMT
I do...in fact I think there may be at least one living in my house. He or she is real subtle though, and in no way violent, but I know that he or she is there. Thinking like this, you're going to drive yourself crazy. Get someone in to "cleanse" the house and, even if it's just a psychological cleansing, you'll feel better.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 4, 2017 18:57:10 GMT
agree.
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Post by Sandman on Apr 4, 2017 19:08:40 GMT
This from a straight forward guy and I believe every word of it. A guy I worked with married a girl that worked at the same place. They had not been married a week when he wakes his wife up and says do you see someone or something standing in the door way. She said yes. That is my dead grandmother. She comes around about once or twice a month to check on me. This went on for about 3 years then sadly she passed away. He never saw her grandmother again. Thanks, granny. I would have been filing divorce papers that week. All I need is to be looking over my shoulder for a arthritic ghost every time I hump my new wife.LOL. But it did cause a few problems in their marriage. He never did get used to it but she liked the idea of her grandmother being around.
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Post by MCDemuth on Apr 4, 2017 19:20:16 GMT
Get someone in to "cleanse" the house Let's say, just for a moment, that Ghost DO exist, and so does Heaven... Seriously! I have seen some ghost shows, where some idjit tries to clean a house by sending the spirit "into the light"... Pardon my language, but... Who the fuck do these people think they are, in deciding that a spirit deserves to go "into the light"? If God wanted them in Heaven, they would be there! And I really don't want to think about what would happen if a demon was sent up to heaven. Stop screwing up the after life for the rest of us! With that said, I'll get off my SoapBox now... Just some things to remember... Yes, if you have ghosts in your home, You should try to get ALL the ghosts out of your house... Just make sure that if you can't get ALL of them out, don't chase the good ones away. If you do, the bad ones won't be controlled any more, and they will make it impossible to live in your home. Make sure to Bless the WHOLE house with the windows open & Bless the ENTIRE property too... don't let them find some place to hide during the blessing! And don't stop halfway during the blessing either, finish it! You want to get rid of the spirits, not anger them. We now return to our regular broadcast...
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Post by hi224 on Apr 4, 2017 19:35:27 GMT
al;l those ghost reality shows are obvious garbage lol.
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Post by MCDemuth on Apr 4, 2017 19:40:42 GMT
all those ghost reality shows are obvious garbage lol. Why?
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Post by hi224 on Apr 4, 2017 19:47:13 GMT
all those ghost reality shows are obvious garbage lol. Why? I honestly feel like they are all dime a dozen hyper realistic stuff which tries to showcase themselves as much more when they are very vapid and unequivocally empty.
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Post by CoyoteGraves on Apr 4, 2017 19:48:50 GMT
I do...in fact I think there may be at least one living in my house. He or she is real subtle though, and in no way violent, but I know that he or she is there. Thinking like this, you're going to drive yourself crazy. Get someone in to "cleanse" the house and, even if it's just a psychological cleansing, you'll feel better. No...it's great. We don't bother each other, and sometimes I talk to him/her.
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Post by MCDemuth on Apr 4, 2017 20:30:38 GMT
Let's try this again... I honestly don't know what you are talking about, because all you have done is make vague statements... all those ghost reality shows are obvious garbageWhat about these shows, do you think is " Garbage"... and why is it " Obvious"? I honestly feel like they are all dime a dozen hyper realistic stuff which tries to showcase themselves as much more when they are very vapid and unequivocally empty." hyper realistic stuff" What "Stuff"?... People who think they see and hear strange things? Objects that fly across the room? that The priests that come to homes to bless them? if a magnetic force moves a wrench to the other side of a garage, how is that "hyper realistic"? " when they are very vapid and unequivocally empty." Fancy words... but "What" is "Empty"? The show? I don't think i have ever watched a paranormal show and thought it was "empty". they are usually fairly entertaining, even if they don't capture any apparent evidence during that episode... The location of a haunting? Some are vacant, and some have people living in them. I don't think that mattters, either a place is haunted or it is not. " they are all dime a dozen ... which tries to showcase themselves as much more" Now, if I understand what you are trying to talk about here... Yes, I agree, most shows seem to be about the same... And yes, most shows all try to "enhance" everything that happens to make it scarier, and more dramatic. And doing so makes it harder to believe that the stories actually happened if they even did... But, If a family who believes in the paranormal, witnesses something unusual... and they call in a priest to bless their home, and then strange things happen during the ceremony... And that is recreated on a show... How can that be "obvious garbage"?
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Post by hi224 on Apr 4, 2017 20:33:07 GMT
Let's try this again... I honestly don't know what you are talking about, because all you have done is make vague statements... all those ghost reality shows are obvious garbageWhat about these shows, do you think is " Garbage"... and why is it " Obvious"? I honestly feel like they are all dime a dozen hyper realistic stuff which tries to showcase themselves as much more when they are very vapid and unequivocally empty." hyper realistic stuff" What "Stuff"?... People who think they see and hear strange things? Objects that fly across the room? that The priests that come to homes to bless them? if a magnetic force moves a wrench to the other side of a garage, how is that "hyper realistic"? " when they are very vapid and unequivocally empty." Fancy words... but "What" is "Empty"? The show? I don't think i have ever watched a paranormal show and thought it was "empty". they are usually fairly entertaining, even if they don't capture any apparent evidence during that episode... The location of a haunting? Some are vacant, and some have people living in them. I don't think that mattters, either a place is haunted or it is not. " they are all dime a dozen ... which tries to showcase themselves as much more" Now, if I understand what you are trying to talk about here... Yes, I agree, most shows seem to be about the same... And yes, most shows all try to "enhance" everything that happens to make it scarier, and more dramatic. And doing so makes it harder to believe that the stories actually happened if they even did... But, If a family who believes in the paranormal, witnesses something unusual... and they call in a priest to bless their home, and then strange things happen during the ceremony... And that is recreated on a show... How can that be "obvious garbage"? Stuff like Ghost Hunters just doesn't at all impress me and most of the scares im guessing are staged as well.
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Post by klandersen on Apr 4, 2017 21:02:36 GMT
I am mixed about it. I like to keep an open mind to most anything. I think it all depends on the definition of "ghost". Some people tend to just call them "spirits" and they can be good or evil. Or peaceful or violent. Then there are religious people who believe that any "ghosts" people see are evil spirits or demons.
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Post by cwsims on Apr 5, 2017 18:18:32 GMT
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Post by shangel on Apr 6, 2017 2:18:17 GMT
This from a straight forward guy and I believe every word of it. A guy I worked with married a girl that worked at the same place. They had not been married a week when he wakes his wife up and says do you see someone or something standing in the door way. She said yes. That is my dead grandmother. She comes around about once or twice a month to check on me. This went on for about 3 years then sadly she passed away. He never saw her grandmother again. Thanks, granny. I would have been filing divorce papers that week. All I need is to be looking over my shoulder for a arthritic ghost every time I hump my new wife.
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Post by hardball on Apr 6, 2017 12:22:51 GMT
Yes, I believe.
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Post by deeznutz on Apr 8, 2017 1:23:53 GMT
I have often wondered if they do/did they would be everywhere and very frequent as years go by ... I'm not sure.
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Post by siri on Apr 13, 2017 9:36:46 GMT
I absolutely do, my house is haunted but the ghost is friendly.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 25, 2017 20:10:55 GMT
Because i actually do as well. My initial instinct was to make fun, but instead I'll give an honest answer...
I have never experienced anything that couldn't be explained within the laws of physics. I believe that sometimes perfectly normal things that exist within the laws of physics are misconstrued as being supernatural instead of natural.
For example: There was a table counter in my previous home on which I could place a glass, filled with a drink, and it would always slide about 6 inches to the right on its own, almost every time. At first I was like "This is it, I'm having my first paranormal experience". But since I don't believe I tried to recreate the event. Sure enough, I could. If the glass was even slightly moist and I placed it at just the right spot on that laminate counter, it would always move about six inches to the right. I never did figure out the exact physics of it, but I do know that I could re-create the same event whenever I wanted. In other words, I had control over it. It wasn't something that was happening on its own.
People who WANT to believe, believe. Superstition is taught/learned. Fear of the unknown kicks in and gives you the chills. The mind sometimes plays tricks on you. Darkness is just the absence of light, not the presence of evil. Witches were women who believed in something that Christians didn't, so the Christians vilified them and made them out to be evil. Pagan just means "people from the country side", not Satan worshipper as we've been led to believe.
Humans are afraid of the dark because as cave men night time was when we were the most vulnerable to predators. Spirits and ghosts are fabrications that explain things in our minds that cant be explained, so we attribute them to the supernatural for some kind of explanation. Bumps in the night are your house settling. The "feeling" we get when we think something is there in the dark is just your own fear making your body feel something, mind over matter.
In short, I'll believe it... when I see it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 20:16:45 GMT
I did ask that women in 17th century clothes who keeps walking through the walls in my apartment if ghost exist, She said no and called me a moron for asking such a stupid question.
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Post by theshape25 on Sept 26, 2017 14:25:15 GMT
I've had a few experiences that make me believe.
One night as a kid I was staying the night with my cousin and we were all sitting in the living room watching tv. I heard my aunt whisper to my uncle "there is that shadow again." I looked in the direction they were looking and there was a shadow of a man walking in the other room. I asked my mom about it because the house used to belong to my grandparents and my mom and her sisters grew up there. She told me that prior to them moving into the house a man hung himself in an upstairs bedroom.
I used to be in a band with a guy who was stage manager at a local theater that was considered by many to be haunted. We used to hold our practices there on stage after hours when the place was empty. One night as we were packing things up before leaving we both watched an office door open up by itself, stay open for about 10 seconds and then close.
My girlfriend and I used to rent a townhouse and one night we were upstairs in our bedroom watching tv. During a commercial break we went downstairs to the kitchen to get some snacks and when we turned the kitchen light on every drawer and cupboard was wide open.
I'm not going to sit here and say that I know 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt that each of things were the work of ghosts, but something had to have caused them.
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