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Post by Raimo47 on Sept 26, 2017 17:52:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 12:12:38 GMT
I think there is a good possibility they exist. I can't say I have ever seen one but like aliens if they were proven to be real it would cause a major freakout around the world. 
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Post by hi224 on Sept 28, 2017 12:49:33 GMT
Because i actually do as well. My initial instinct was to make fun, but instead I'll give an honest answer...
I have never experienced anything that couldn't be explained within the laws of physics. I believe that sometimes perfectly normal things that exist within the laws of physics are misconstrued as being supernatural instead of natural.
For example: There was a table counter in my previous home on which I could place a glass, filled with a drink, and it would always slide about 6 inches to the right on its own, almost every time. At first I was like "This is it, I'm having my first paranormal experience". But since I don't believe I tried to recreate the event. Sure enough, I could. If the glass was even slightly moist and I placed it at just the right spot on that laminate counter, it would always move about six inches to the right. I never did figure out the exact physics of it, but I do know that I could re-create the same event whenever I wanted. In other words, I had control over it. It wasn't something that was happening on its own.
People who WANT to believe, believe. Superstition is taught/learned. Fear of the unknown kicks in and gives you the chills. The mind sometimes plays tricks on you. Darkness is just the absence of light, not the presence of evil. Witches were women who believed in something that Christians didn't, so the Christians vilified them and made them out to be evil. Pagan just means "people from the country side", not Satan worshipper as we've been led to believe.
Humans are afraid of the dark because as cave men night time was when we were the most vulnerable to predators. Spirits and ghosts are fabrications that explain things in our minds that cant be explained, so we attribute them to the supernatural for some kind of explanation. Bumps in the night are your house settling. The "feeling" we get when we think something is there in the dark is just your own fear making your body feel something, mind over matter.
In short, I'll believe it... when I see it.
I mean sounds crazy but I have an open mind, there is shit in this world we still can't definitively answer. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 28, 2017 15:03:23 GMT
My initial instinct was to make fun, but instead I'll give an honest answer...
I have never experienced anything that couldn't be explained within the laws of physics. I believe that sometimes perfectly normal things that exist within the laws of physics are misconstrued as being supernatural instead of natural.
I mean sounds crazy but I have an open mind, there is shit in this world we still can't definitively answer. You're absolutely right. I don't mean to sound like I know better than anyone else. It's just my opinion that things we cant explain yet will be explainable some day through perfectly logical means not involving the supernatural. For example: Infra-red and X-Rays. Those exist. But NONE of our five senses can detect them. As far as the human body is concerned they might as well NOT exist. But scientific devices now lets us see them. Interesting no? |
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 28, 2017 15:49:17 GMT
I would like to, but I don't think that I do.
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 28, 2017 15:52:30 GMT
The appartment i live in is said to be haunted, but i have not see anything yet. Until then, i remain skeptical about ghost. Would you have to see one to believe? |
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Post by NewtJorden on Sept 28, 2017 16:01:17 GMT
The appartment i live in is said to be haunted, but i have not see anything yet. Until then, i remain skeptical about ghost. Would you have to see one to believe? Well yeah, how else am I going to believe. |
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 28, 2017 16:23:36 GMT
Would you have to see one to believe? Well yeah, how else am I going to believe. Are you serious? Ever see a dinosaur, the pyramids, or another planet? And before you tell me you've seen pictures or video, there's pictures and video of ghosts too. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 28, 2017 16:27:32 GMT
Well yeah, how else am I going to believe. Are you serious? Ever see a dinosaur, the pyramids, or another planet? And before you tell me you've seen pictures or video, there's pictures and video of ghosts too. I hope you don't believe in dinosaurs etc. just because of hearsay or just because of illustrations. That's not to suggest that the only way that you'd believe in dinosaurs is that you see them with your own eyes, but what other reasons would you say there are to believe in something like dinosaurs? |
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 28, 2017 16:30:18 GMT
Are you serious? Ever see a dinosaur, the pyramids, or another planet? And before you tell me you've seen pictures or video, there's pictures and video of ghosts too. I hope you don't believe in dinosaurs etc. just because of hearsay or just because of illustrations. That's not to suggest that the only way that you'd believe in dinosaurs is that you see them with your own eyes, but what other reasons would you say there are to believe in something like dinosaurs? He is saying that he doesn't believes in ghosts because he's never seen one and I'm saying that's not really a valid argument. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 28, 2017 16:33:27 GMT
I hope you don't believe in dinosaurs etc. just because of hearsay or just because of illustrations. That's not to suggest that the only way that you'd believe in dinosaurs is that you see them with your own eyes, but what other reasons would you say there are to believe in something like dinosaurs? He is saying that he doesn't believes in ghosts because he's never seen one and I'm saying that's not really a valid argument. I'm suggesting it's "valid" in this case because the reasons that we believe in something like dinosaurs aren't at all met when it comes to ghosts. We don't believe that there were dinosaurs on hearsay and illustrations. All we've got is either that we see a ghost ourselves or we go by hearsay and ignore any critical analysis of whether the idea of them even makes any sense. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 28, 2017 16:37:36 GMT
Also, not that you should believe in ghosts just because you've seen one yourself. Your first assumption should be that it was a mistaken interpretation or an illusion or a hallucination. You should try to falsify it first.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 17:36:47 GMT
Of course! I'm Ghost Ackbar!👻
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Post by hi224 on Sept 28, 2017 18:13:53 GMT
Also, not that you should believe in ghosts just because you've seen one yourself. Your first assumption should be that it was a mistaken interpretation or an illusion or a hallucination. You should try to falsify it first. What you said is pretty reasonable we have to question ourselves before we can put together something. |
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Post by hi224 on Sept 28, 2017 18:15:26 GMT
I mean sounds crazy but I have an open mind, there is shit in this world we still can't definitively answer. You're absolutely right. I don't mean to sound like I know better than anyone else. It's just my opinion that things we cant explain yet will be explainable some day through perfectly logical means not involving the supernatural. For example: Infra-red and X-Rays. Those exist. But NONE of our five senses can detect them. As far as the human body is concerned they might as well NOT exist. But scientific devices now lets us see them. Interesting no? Well and i am sure we will eventually figure out a way to have interstellar space travel, but until then people will always speculate, its our very nature. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 28, 2017 18:25:30 GMT
You're absolutely right. I don't mean to sound like I know better than anyone else. It's just my opinion that things we cant explain yet will be explainable some day through perfectly logical means not involving the supernatural. For example: Infra-red and X-Rays. Those exist. But NONE of our five senses can detect them. As far as the human body is concerned they might as well NOT exist. But scientific devices now lets us see them. Interesting no? Well and i am sure we will eventually figure out a way to have interstellar space travel, but until then people will always speculate, its our very nature. hah, I think we'll figure out ghosts before we do interstellar space travel, LOL! |
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Post by hi224 on Sept 28, 2017 18:26:22 GMT
Well and i am sure we will eventually figure out a way to have interstellar space travel, but until then people will always speculate, its our very nature. hah, I think we'll figure out ghosts before we do interstellar space travel, LOL! I am not saying we'll figure one out before the other at all. |
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