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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 31, 2019 21:36:12 GMT
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When Superman first came out there was never a question that the symbol/logo on his chest was an S and that it stood for Super, hence the name Superman.
Later other folks started thinking that it might be a bit too on the nose that he call himself Super. "Who does he think he is? He wouldn't call himself Super. He's not arrogant." And then Superman the Movie came out and forever more solidified the idea that the S was really a Kryptonian Symbol.
In the 80's, the comic, Man of Steel, by John Byrne (not to be confused with the 2018 comic Man of Steel by Brian Michael Bendis [Oy!]) tried to return the symbol back to being an S by having Lois Lane call him a Super Man in one of her articles. It didn't stick.
Man of Steel the movie not only returned it to being a Kryptonian symbol but also added the notion that it stands for "hope".
Folks, don't be fooled. The symbol on his chest is an S which stands for Super. The rest is just BS that the creators of these different versions have been wrestling with since forever, for god knows what reason. He's Superman, from which the term Super Hero comes from.
Thoughts? Opinions?
Edit: I have been corrected and it turns out that it may be the TV show Smallville that first suggested the symbol stands for "hope". I thought it was the movie MOS. |
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Post by James on Jan 31, 2019 21:44:49 GMT
I think it’s too much of a coincidence that they’re trying to give the S a meaning to the Kryptonians. S is for Superman, that should be it.
I like the idea of it meaning hope in MoS but it’s like, no shit.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 31, 2019 22:25:38 GMT
www.grunge.com/131745/false-facts-about-superman-you-always-thought-were-true/sl/the-s-is-a-kryptonian-symbol-that-means-hope
When Superman first came out there was never a question that the symbol/logo on his chest was an S and that it stood for Super, hence the name Superman.
Later other folks started thinking that it might be a bit too on the nose that he call himself Super. "Who does he think he is? He wouldn't call himself Super. He's not arrogant." And then Superman the Movie came out and forever more solidified the idea that the S was really a Kryptonian Symbol.
In the 80's, the comic, Man of Steel, by John Byrne (not to be confused with the 2018 comic Man of Steel by Brian Michael Bendis [Oy!]) tried to return the symbol back to being an S by having Lois Lane call him a Super Man in one of her articles. It didn't stick.
Man of Steel the movie not only returned it to being a Kryptonian symbol but also added the notion that it stands for "hope".
Folks, don't be fooled. The symbol on his chest is an S which stands for Super. The rest is just BS that the creators of these different versions have been wrestling with since forever, for god knows what reason. He's Superman, from which the term Super Hero comes from.
Thoughts? Opinions? It's not an "S" and it doesn't stand for "Super". Why the fuck would Jor-El wear an "S" symbol that stands for "Super" in Superman: The Movie when Jor-El doesn't have any super-powers on Krypton? It's the crest of the House of El. That's why Jor-El wore it too in Superman: The Movie. |
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Post by James on Jan 31, 2019 22:32:09 GMT
www.grunge.com/131745/false-facts-about-superman-you-always-thought-were-true/sl/the-s-is-a-kryptonian-symbol-that-means-hope
When Superman first came out there was never a question that the symbol/logo on his chest was an S and that it stood for Super, hence the name Superman.
Later other folks started thinking that it might be a bit too on the nose that he call himself Super. "Who does he think he is? He wouldn't call himself Super. He's not arrogant." And then Superman the Movie came out and forever more solidified the idea that the S was really a Kryptonian Symbol.
In the 80's, the comic, Man of Steel, by John Byrne (not to be confused with the 2018 comic Man of Steel by Brian Michael Bendis [Oy!]) tried to return the symbol back to being an S by having Lois Lane call him a Super Man in one of her articles. It didn't stick.
Man of Steel the movie not only returned it to being a Kryptonian symbol but also added the notion that it stands for "hope".
Folks, don't be fooled. The symbol on his chest is an S which stands for Super. The rest is just BS that the creators of these different versions have been wrestling with since forever, for god knows what reason. He's Superman, from which the term Super Hero comes from.
Thoughts? Opinions? It's not an "S" and it doesn't stand for "Super". Why the fuck would Jor-El wear an "S" symbol that stands for "Super" in Superman: The Movie when Jor-El doesn't have any super-powers on Krypton? It's the crest of the House of El. That's why Jor-El wore it too in Superman: The Movie. He could’ve had superpowers if he entered earth. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 31, 2019 23:34:26 GMT
It's not an "S" and it doesn't stand for "Super". Why the fuck would Jor-El wear an "S" symbol that stands for "Super" in Superman: The Movie when Jor-El doesn't have any super-powers on Krypton? It's the crest of the House of El. That's why Jor-El wore it too in Superman: The Movie. He could’ve had superpowers if he entered earth. But Jor-EL wasn't on Earth and had no plans to go to Earth. Jor-El was on Krypton so why would Jor-El wear an "S" that stands for "Super" when he's on Krypton? It's the symbol for the House of El. |
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Post by James on Jan 31, 2019 23:48:52 GMT
He could’ve had superpowers if he entered earth. But Jor-EL wasn't on Earth and had no plans to go to Earth. Jor-El was on Krypton so why would Jor-El wear an "S" that stands for "Super" when he's on Krypton? It's the symbol for the House of El. Okay fair enough. I guess that’s better than being a symbol of something as simple as hope. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 1, 2019 0:52:22 GMT
www.grunge.com/131745/false-facts-about-superman-you-always-thought-were-true/sl/the-s-is-a-kryptonian-symbol-that-means-hope
When Superman first came out there was never a question that the symbol/logo on his chest was an S and that it stood for Super, hence the name Superman.
Later other folks started thinking that it might be a bit too on the nose that he call himself Super. "Who does he think he is? He wouldn't call himself Super. He's not arrogant." And then Superman the Movie came out and forever more solidified the idea that the S was really a Kryptonian Symbol.
In the 80's, the comic, Man of Steel, by John Byrne (not to be confused with the 2018 comic Man of Steel by Brian Michael Bendis [Oy!]) tried to return the symbol back to being an S by having Lois Lane call him a Super Man in one of her articles. It didn't stick.
Man of Steel the movie not only returned it to being a Kryptonian symbol but also added the notion that it stands for "hope".
Folks, don't be fooled. The symbol on his chest is an S which stands for Super. The rest is just BS that the creators of these different versions have been wrestling with since forever, for god knows what reason. He's Superman, from which the term Super Hero comes from.
Thoughts? Opinions? It's not an "S" and it doesn't stand for "Super". Why the fuck would Jor-El wear an "S" symbol that stands for "Super" in Superman: The Movie when Jor-El doesn't have any super-powers on Krypton? It's the crest of the House of El. That's why Jor-El wore it too in Superman: The Movie. The article above pointed out that the 78 movie changed it from an S to a Kryptonian symbol. The character existed for 40 years before that. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 1, 2019 8:36:44 GMT
www.grunge.com/131745/false-facts-about-superman-you-always-thought-were-true/sl/the-s-is-a-kryptonian-symbol-that-means-hope
When Superman first came out there was never a question that the symbol/logo on his chest was an S and that it stood for Super, hence the name Superman.
Later other folks started thinking that it might be a bit too on the nose that he call himself Super. "Who does he think he is? He wouldn't call himself Super. He's not arrogant." And then Superman the Movie came out and forever more solidified the idea that the S was really a Kryptonian Symbol.
In the 80's, the comic, Man of Steel, by John Byrne (not to be confused with the 2018 comic Man of Steel by Brian Michael Bendis [Oy!]) tried to return the symbol back to being an S by having Lois Lane call him a Super Man in one of her articles. It didn't stick.
Man of Steel the movie not only returned it to being a Kryptonian symbol but also added the notion that it stands for "hope".
Folks, don't be fooled. The symbol on his chest is an S which stands for Super. The rest is just BS that the creators of these different versions have been wrestling with since forever, for god knows what reason. He's Superman, from which the term Super Hero comes from.
Thoughts? Opinions? It's not an "S" and it doesn't stand for "Super". Why the fuck would Jor-El wear an "S" symbol that stands for "Super" in Superman: The Movie when Jor-El doesn't have any super-powers on Krypton? It's the crest of the House of El. That's why Jor-El wore it too in Superman: The Movie. That's the point he's making. It started out as just an 'S' when the character started, but writers over time thought it was stupid that he'd wear an 'S' for super. So they tried to give it a bigger meaning. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 1, 2019 15:15:25 GMT
www.grunge.com/131745/false-facts-about-superman-you-always-thought-were-true/sl/the-s-is-a-kryptonian-symbol-that-means-hope
When Superman first came out there was never a question that the symbol/logo on his chest was an S and that it stood for Super, hence the name Superman.
Later other folks started thinking that it might be a bit too on the nose that he call himself Super. "Who does he think he is? He wouldn't call himself Super. He's not arrogant." And then Superman the Movie came out and forever more solidified the idea that the S was really a Kryptonian Symbol.
In the 80's, the comic, Man of Steel, by John Byrne (not to be confused with the 2018 comic Man of Steel by Brian Michael Bendis [Oy!]) tried to return the symbol back to being an S by having Lois Lane call him a Super Man in one of her articles. It didn't stick.
Man of Steel the movie not only returned it to being a Kryptonian symbol but also added the notion that it stands for "hope".
Folks, don't be fooled. The symbol on his chest is an S which stands for Super. The rest is just BS that the creators of these different versions have been wrestling with since forever, for god knows what reason. He's Superman, from which the term Super Hero comes from.
Thoughts? Opinions? It's not an "S" and it doesn't stand for "Super". Why the fuck would Jor-El wear an "S" symbol that stands for "Super" in Superman: The Movie when Jor-El doesn't have any super-powers on Krypton? It's the crest of the House of El. That's why Jor-El wore it too in Superman: The Movie. That's the ret-con. In the original comic Jor-El does NOT wear an S. Having Jor-El wear the S in the movie is how they ret-conned it. Don't believe the BS. The symbol is an S and it stands for Super, hence the name Superman, hence the term Super heroes. Know the history. Do the research. The movies ret-conned it and now people believe something that's incorrect.
DC-FAN I'm surprised that you of all people don't know the truth of this; you know... what with you being a DC fan and all...
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 1, 2019 16:21:38 GMT
^^^All this raises the fascinating question, is DC-Fan even a DC fan? |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 1, 2019 16:44:58 GMT
It's not an "S" and it doesn't stand for "Super". Why the fuck would Jor-El wear an "S" symbol that stands for "Super" in Superman: The Movie when Jor-El doesn't have any super-powers on Krypton? It's the crest of the House of El. That's why Jor-El wore it too in Superman: The Movie. That's the point he's making. It started out as just an 'S' when the character started, but writers over time thought it was stupid that he'd wear an 'S' for super. So they tried to give it a bigger meaning.^^^THIS^^^ |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 1, 2019 16:45:22 GMT
^^^All this raises the fascinating question, is DC-Fan even a DC fan? Yes... I now have to wonder... |
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Post by dnno1 on Feb 1, 2019 22:28:54 GMT
www.grunge.com/131745/false-facts-about-superman-you-always-thought-were-true/sl/the-s-is-a-kryptonian-symbol-that-means-hope
When Superman first came out there was never a question that the symbol/logo on his chest was an S and that it stood for Super, hence the name Superman.
Later other folks started thinking that it might be a bit too on the nose that he call himself Super. "Who does he think he is? He wouldn't call himself Super. He's not arrogant." And then Superman the Movie came out and forever more solidified the idea that the S was really a Kryptonian Symbol.
In the 80's, the comic, Man of Steel, by John Byrne (not to be confused with the 2018 comic Man of Steel by Brian Michael Bendis [Oy!]) tried to return the symbol back to being an S by having Lois Lane call him a Super Man in one of her articles. It didn't stick.
Man of Steel the movie not only returned it to being a Kryptonian symbol but also added the notion that it stands for "hope".
Folks, don't be fooled. The symbol on his chest is an S which stands for Super. The rest is just BS that the creators of these different versions have been wrestling with since forever, for god knows what reason. He's Superman, from which the term Super Hero comes from.
Thoughts? Opinions? This is a narrow minded take on the development of a character. Superman may have just had an S shield in his beginnings, but he also couldn't fly, didn't know that his powers came for the sun, that his weakness was kryptonite, and really didn't know that he came from the planet Kypton either. These are things we all learned while the character was developing and to say that any explanation is BS is just a slap in the face of the original creators, and the folks who helped develop the character over the course of the last 80 years. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 1, 2019 23:07:20 GMT
Correct! It's an "S"!
And I'll tell you something else; Wonder Woman comes from Paradise Island!
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Post by havenless on Feb 2, 2019 3:43:32 GMT
^^^All this raises the fascinating question, is DC-Fan even a DC fan? DC means Dallas Cowboys. He is an objective fan of all films. If you know the history of American football, the Cowboys’ rise and fall oddly mimics DC’s. |
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 2, 2019 3:49:11 GMT
^^^All this raises the fascinating question, is DC-Fan even a DC fan? DC means Dallas Cowboys. He is an objective fan of all films. If you know the history of American football, the Cowboys’ rise and fall oddly mimics DC’s. He’s told me this many a time, not that I believe that’s what it actually, or at least only, stands for. But he is also on record as a fan of DC Comics and the DCEU. |
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 2, 2019 11:36:39 GMT
www.grunge.com/131745/false-facts-about-superman-you-always-thought-were-true/sl/the-s-is-a-kryptonian-symbol-that-means-hope
When Superman first came out there was never a question that the symbol/logo on his chest was an S and that it stood for Super, hence the name Superman.
Later other folks started thinking that it might be a bit too on the nose that he call himself Super. "Who does he think he is? He wouldn't call himself Super. He's not arrogant." And then Superman the Movie came out and forever more solidified the idea that the S was really a Kryptonian Symbol.
In the 80's, the comic, Man of Steel, by John Byrne (not to be confused with the 2018 comic Man of Steel by Brian Michael Bendis [Oy!]) tried to return the symbol back to being an S by having Lois Lane call him a Super Man in one of her articles. It didn't stick.
Man of Steel the movie not only returned it to being a Kryptonian symbol but also added the notion that it stands for "hope".
Folks, don't be fooled. The symbol on his chest is an S which stands for Super. The rest is just BS that the creators of these different versions have been wrestling with since forever, for god knows what reason. He's Superman, from which the term Super Hero comes from.
Thoughts? Opinions? I didn’t read the article but did it imply that the ‘Man of Steel’ movie is what added that the symbol means “hope”? Because I learned the symbol meant “hope” from the television show ‘Smallville’. I knew it was supposed to mean “Super” when the character first came out. I just assumed they changed it in the comics at some point to mean “hope” especially after hearing it in both Smallville AND Man of Steel. |
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Post by hobowar on Feb 2, 2019 13:03:31 GMT
www.grunge.com/131745/false-facts-about-superman-you-always-thought-were-true/sl/the-s-is-a-kryptonian-symbol-that-means-hope
When Superman first came out there was never a question that the symbol/logo on his chest was an S and that it stood for Super, hence the name Superman.
Later other folks started thinking that it might be a bit too on the nose that he call himself Super. "Who does he think he is? He wouldn't call himself Super. He's not arrogant." And then Superman the Movie came out and forever more solidified the idea that the S was really a Kryptonian Symbol.
In the 80's, the comic, Man of Steel, by John Byrne (not to be confused with the 2018 comic Man of Steel by Brian Michael Bendis [Oy!]) tried to return the symbol back to being an S by having Lois Lane call him a Super Man in one of her articles. It didn't stick.
Man of Steel the movie not only returned it to being a Kryptonian symbol but also added the notion that it stands for "hope".
Folks, don't be fooled. The symbol on his chest is an S which stands for Super. The rest is just BS that the creators of these different versions have been wrestling with since forever, for god knows what reason. He's Superman, from which the term Super Hero comes from.
Thoughts? Opinions? It's not an "S" and it doesn't stand for "Super". Why the fuck would Jor-El wear an "S" symbol that stands for "Super" in Superman: The Movie when Jor-El doesn't have any super-powers on Krypton? It's the crest of the House of El. That's why Jor-El wore it too in Superman: The Movie. I heard it was Marlon Brando's idea for Jor-el to have the S on his chest. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Feb 3, 2019 23:01:52 GMT
^^^All this raises the fascinating question, is DC-Fan even a DC fan? DC means Dallas Cowboys. He is an objective fan of all films. If you know the history of American football, the Cowboys’ rise and fall oddly mimics DC’s. He's an objective fan of all films...except MCU. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 4, 2019 16:53:53 GMT
www.grunge.com/131745/false-facts-about-superman-you-always-thought-were-true/sl/the-s-is-a-kryptonian-symbol-that-means-hope
When Superman first came out there was never a question that the symbol/logo on his chest was an S and that it stood for Super, hence the name Superman.
Later other folks started thinking that it might be a bit too on the nose that he call himself Super. "Who does he think he is? He wouldn't call himself Super. He's not arrogant." And then Superman the Movie came out and forever more solidified the idea that the S was really a Kryptonian Symbol.
In the 80's, the comic, Man of Steel, by John Byrne (not to be confused with the 2018 comic Man of Steel by Brian Michael Bendis [Oy!]) tried to return the symbol back to being an S by having Lois Lane call him a Super Man in one of her articles. It didn't stick.
Man of Steel the movie not only returned it to being a Kryptonian symbol but also added the notion that it stands for "hope".
Folks, don't be fooled. The symbol on his chest is an S which stands for Super. The rest is just BS that the creators of these different versions have been wrestling with since forever, for god knows what reason. He's Superman, from which the term Super Hero comes from.
Thoughts? Opinions? This is a narrow minded take on the development of a character. Superman may have just had an S shield in his beginnings, but he also couldn't fly, didn't know that his powers came for the sun, that his weakness was kryptonite, and really didn't know that he came from the planet Kypton either. These are things we all learned while the character was developing and to say that any explanation is BS is just a slap in the face of the original creators, and the folks who helped develop the character over the course of the last 80 years. On the contrary, the later creators are the ones who give a slap in the face to the original creators (Siegel and SHuster) who made it so that the S on his chest is an S on his chest. The creators who came along AFTER them and changed that are the ones who changed things and messed that up, so that now there are folks like yourself who don't realize the origin.
As for adding things like him flying, that's different. Because in that case they weren't changing anything, they were actually enhancing things that were already there. They were making additions that made the character better. Changing the S to a Kryptonian symbol is actually neither here nor there, which is why its gone back and forth between both explanations since the history of the character.
When it began it was an S, and its sheer dumb luck that an alien symbol would look exactly like an English letter that just so happens to stand for the English word for Super, as in Superman, as in Super-hero. I find it much easier to believe that the media dubbed him a super man and that he took that as a symbol to inspire people.
p.s. How do you attribute narrow minded-ness to acknowledging the truth? That's kinda... narrow-minded.
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