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Post by hi224 on Feb 4, 2019 4:15:52 GMT
I rarely find movies boring Me either, but that's more down to me knowing the sort of thing I like and generally steering clear of things I know will "bore" me. same like if a friend requests we see a superhero movie im wary unless there are interesting aspects. IE: infinity war having several subplots wrapping up, dark knight looked visually and story wise stimulating.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Feb 4, 2019 4:20:38 GMT
It's a valid criticism of a film unless you are asking why the film was bad and all they can say is "it was boring." They should be more explicit than that. Otherwise it would be like saying "the film made me nervous." Too subjective a response.
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Post by MCDemuth on Feb 4, 2019 4:28:47 GMT
I rarely find movies boring Me either, but that's more down to me knowing the sort of thing I like and generally steering clear of things I know will "bore" me.Yeah, It's like, if people are not entertained by Westerns... Just Face The Facts... Even if you end up watching the best Western ever made, It's a safe bet that YOU will find the film "Boring". In this case, your opinion is NOT a valid "criticism", because there is nothing wrong with the film. What is wrong, is that you watched a film that you knew wouldn't entertain you.
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Post by mslo79 on Feb 4, 2019 7:28:02 GMT
As long as one truly means 'boring' then it's definitely a valid criticism because boring is pretty much the worst crime a movie can commit since it's the opposite of what movies generally need to be, which is... interesting/entertaining and the like. when I use the word 'boring' I don't just say it casually, as I genuinely mean it. but with that said... only a small percentage (no more than about 7% of everything I have seen) of all movies I have seen reached 'boring level'. or no more than about 160 movies out of the 2,250+ total movies I have seen that I could not finish watching due to boredom. p.s. I typically give a movie a minimum of 30min+ before ill turn it off and give it my usual 2/10 rating but I usually try to aim for around 40min as that's more than fair enough to give a movie a chance to hold even a tiny bit of interest in it to continue watching. but there has been rare exceptions where ill turn a movie off before the 30min mark and then give it my usual 2/10 rating but this is likely a very small amount of the movies I scored a 2/10. moviemouthI might disagree with that as I think some subjects are far less likely to output a movie of any real worth. but I guess maybe it's possible your right for some people. I agree that there is a difference between 'slow moving' and 'boring' as boring is just bad straight up where as 'slow moving' movies can still be solid. I don't think I could really explain why I find some movies to be truly boring (boring as in I could not finish watching them which is a perfect standard for a movie being truly boring) but it's basically a feeling/emotional response to the point you just can't waste your time watching it any further. I know that comment was not directed at me. but to make some comments... I also see a different between 'slow' and 'boring'... because some movies can be slower paced but not boring and then there are just some movies where my interest in them is pretty much zero and those are boring. hell, it's possible for a fast paced movie to be boring to. hi224I know that comment was not directed at me but... as a general rule for me if a movie ends up boring... I try to give it a minimum of 30minutes but usually more around 40minutes before ill turn it off and call it boring. because at that point you were more than fair with the movie to give it a chance to hold your interest at least a little to keep watching it as once it crosses a certain threshold, it's just straight up boring and a movie that holds THAT level of interest (basically no interest to continue watching) for any length of time is a show stopper. Fox in the SnowIt's probably more that those making the "you don't get it" etc claim, are just upset that person dissed a movie they like more than anything else. looking at my general stats, for me to not finish a movie it comes out to an average of about 1 out of every 14 movies or so over the long run that I can't finish due to boredom. so for me it's not common that I won't finish a movie but not very rare either. it happens here and there though. marthAnything that the viewer finds boring, 'one of the best movies ever' simply does not come into it as anything that's boring is FAR FROM 'best movie ever' material to that viewer. sure, some people seem to praise that movie but those who find it boring I doubt could say it's 'one of the best movies ever' unless they are just trying to guess what people like to call 'best' etc as I think trying to distinguish between 'favorite' and 'best' is pointless as whatever a person likes watching the most is of most value to that person. so they mean the same thing to me because of that. Primemovermithrax PejorativeI don't see the comparison as nervous may or may not be a good thing for the viewer where as boring is always a bad thing. also, someone does not really need to give specific details on why a movie is boring as I think it can be difficult to put into words besides that it's not holding the viewers interest AT ALL once it reaches true boring status for any length of time which is a show stopper and is pretty much the worst crime a movie can commit.
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Post by 博:Dr.BLΔD€:锯 on Feb 4, 2019 7:43:36 GMT
I think if someone finds a film boring, it's wholly immaterial whether someone would say that's valid or not. One cannot feign interest unless they're being pretentious or trying to impress. I'm less than disinterested in rating anyone else's view of art ....All art is subjective, that has always been my mantra......Ray ....and I'm stinging to that.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 4, 2019 8:29:01 GMT
I'm less than disinterested in rating anyone else's view of art ....All art is subjective True, I just wanted some opinions as I quite often see people react against a critique of boring by attacking the person making the critique. I gave examples in an earlier reply. I think people want you to back up a claim of boring which is probably reasonable. For the record - not boring:
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Post by Vits on Feb 4, 2019 12:05:12 GMT
Simply saying "It's boring" is like simply saying "It's fun." It's a valid opinion, but not valid criticism. The person has to explain what caused this. The plot's pacing? The dialogue? The subject? The editing? The cinematography?
Most people think that "entertainment" refers only to having fun. If a dramatic movie causes the viewer to feel negative emotions, it's a form of entertainment. With that in mind, a movie should balance entertainment with art.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Feb 4, 2019 12:26:54 GMT
Its valid personal criticism. But i guess what the poster above me says is correct, its really an opinion.
But just because one person thinks a movie is boring does not mean that everybody will think so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 12:44:03 GMT
or is it always a reflection on the one making the comment? I'd say it's probably one of the most if not the most valid criticism there is. Films are entertainment. Boring is just about the worst thing a film can be.
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Post by wmcclain on Feb 4, 2019 13:20:48 GMT
"You know that movie? The one that is supposed to be so great and everything? And I had to watch it for class? And everyone was raving about it? And everything? But you know what? I was BORED".
"Boring" is an irritating tic in young people, going back decades now so the originators are not so young anymore.
More recently kids have been taught to say "I am very disappointed" as if the world is supposed to jump to attention and fix it.
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Post by theshape25 on Feb 4, 2019 13:33:16 GMT
However, there are many times, where people think their opinion is more important that anyone else's in the world, and will say shit like that, even though they were the only ones who didn't like the film, but everyone else enjoyed it. That's why I hate the term overrated. Whenever I hear someone say "such and such is overrated" to me that's saying, "millions of people like this song, band, movie, actor/actress, etc... but because I don't that popularity is totally unwarranted." There has to be a reason something is popular, just because you don't share that opinion doesn't automatically make everyone else's opinion null and void.
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Post by rizdek on Feb 4, 2019 13:49:20 GMT
or is it always a reflection on the one making the comment? It is a valid statement if expressed the way you presented it. IE "I found the film boring." I mean it is possible that it really is a boring film. Just because someone had the money to produce a movie, it doesn't mean they had an interesting or exciting topic.
OTOH, if someone says, "The film was boring," without realizing they are actually implying only that "I found the film boring." Then it feels to me like they are being presumptuous as if it really WAS boring.
AND, it is eve more presumptuous if they assume that statement would necessarily be a criticism.
Different people watch movies for different reasons. I know many probably watch movies to be stimulated and want something exciting, something to dwell on and to drive them to action or at least active thinking. I "use" movies to relax and fall asleep...almost exclusively. So a calm, even paced movie with no surprises, loud noises or jumpy scenes, etc. is precisely what I look for. I like good actors who deliver lines well and I like an endearing or comfortable story, but the topic and overall pace should be smooth, even, without any thing that makes me jump or start...ie almost boring or it'll keep me awake. An "I found the film boring" is what I might look for when seeking a new movie to add to my collection.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 14:12:45 GMT
However, there are many times, where people think their opinion is more important that anyone else's in the world, and will say shit like that, even though they were the only ones who didn't like the film, but everyone else enjoyed it. That's why I hate the term overrated. Whenever I hear someone say "such and such is overrated" to me that's saying, "millions of people like this song, band, movie, actor/actress, etc... but because I don't that popularity is totally unwarranted." There has to be a reason something is popular, just because you don't share that opinion doesn't automatically make everyone else's opinion null and void.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Feb 4, 2019 14:52:50 GMT
I think it's a valid criticism, but agree with Vits that the viewer needs to have some reasons why. For example, I found A Dangerous Method to be painfully boring, in large part because the dialogue was top-heavy with psychological mumbo-jumbo, which was to be expected due to the subject matter but still became tedious over two-plus hours. The plodding pace didn't help at all either, and the plot never seemed to go anywhere. While technically a very well-directed and acted movie, I found it very difficult to get thru it.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 4, 2019 15:25:58 GMT
I think it is totally valid
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Post by BATouttaheck on Feb 4, 2019 17:03:34 GMT
Knowing that Joe normally LOVES musicals but is bored by Musical X means something quite different from being told that Mary (who we know HATES Musicals) is bored by Musical X .
Unknown entity Sam announcing that he was bored by Musical X is meaningless.
Knowing that Pete posts that he is bored by everything says a lot as well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 17:07:31 GMT
Knowing that Joe normally LOVES musicals but is bored by Musical X means something quite different from being told that Mary (who we know HATES Musicals) is bored by Musical X . Unknown entity Sam announcing that he was bored by Musical X is meaningless. Knowing that Pete posts that he is bored by everything says a lot as well. Well if Joe, Mary, Sam and Pete all say they were bored by it, I'm sure not going.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Feb 4, 2019 17:14:46 GMT
@homergreg BUT if (who is known world wide as having impeccable taste in films) loved it .. you would go .. right ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 18:21:40 GMT
@homergreg BUT if (who is known world wide as having impeccable taste in films) loved it .. you would go .. right ? If I get popcorn and a pillow if needed, sure!
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Post by BATouttaheck on Feb 4, 2019 18:27:11 GMT
@homergreg alwsys available pillows are in the chest by the couch …. NO ! not that one with the little piece of ROPE hanging out of it .. the other one !
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