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Post by faustus5 on Jun 11, 2017 12:07:13 GMT
So please: describe how we could tell if "eternal conscious awareness" doesn't exist, versus that it does? Excuse me, shit for brains, but that is exactly what I asked you to tell us. And because you don't even know what you mean by the phrase, you refused to even try. You are the one who introduced this bullshit concept to the thread. You are the one who needs to explain and defend it. But we all know you can't, since you are basically like a three year old child playing dress up at philosophy.
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 12, 2017 10:42:41 GMT
I am not going to do your homework for you, regarding your eternal being. Thanks for confirming that you can't articulate what you mean since you don't even know what you mean. Your status as the village idiot of the Philosophy board has been firmly established.
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 12, 2017 12:24:00 GMT
Your philosophy of the notion of it all just being matter and then after death the end is idiotic, not to mention ignorant. Then try explaining why that is the overwhelmingly majority position of most scientists and philosophers who think about these issues. What do you know that they don't, genius? What is more likely: that they are all idiots and ignoramuses, or that you are? Don't bother answering that one; the truth is obvious.
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 12, 2017 13:59:42 GMT
I'm not so much into knowing. . . Ain't that the truth.
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 12, 2017 15:21:46 GMT
You really don't like being told anything do you, about the "truth" of your existence and the deeper and authentic aspects of your eternal being? You've done no such thing. You've just spouted completely unsupported bullshit based on your uncritical, gullible acceptance of long discredited ancient metaphysics created by people who had no understanding of reality whatsoever.
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Post by mecano04 on Jun 12, 2017 16:17:23 GMT
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Post by The Lost One on Jun 12, 2017 16:38:09 GMT
You really don't like being told anything do you, about the "truth" of your existence and the deeper and authentic aspects of your eternal being? When you die, have a nice nothing to return too. Well to be honest you haven't really tried to explain to anyone what this truth is. What is "eternal consciousness awareness"? I assume it means reality and consciousness are one and the same, but how do you know this? Is it something that can be demonstrated as true (or at least likely)? Or is it something you've made a leap of faith about? If the former, can you show us the logic or evidence you used? And if the latter, can you blame others for not making the same leap?
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 13, 2017 10:46:42 GMT
More denial and avoidance. Denial and avoidance is all you are capable of, so naturally you project it on others.
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 13, 2017 16:47:05 GMT
What exactly is it that you feel I am in denial and avoidance of? Objective reality, that's all.
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 14, 2017 10:48:10 GMT
So you don't feel that subjectivity plays a part in anything and how we can perceive things differently when coming from the self? And if subjectivity is all just an illusion, then so is objectivity. It is after all, only a projection of the ego mindset. Perhaps then, none of it is real, or what you think of as real. Try this: climb to the top of a cliff or the roof of a tall building. Then jump off of it and tell yourself that there is no objective reality, and that if you subjectively believe you can float safely to the ground, this makes it so. Get back to us with a report on how this went.
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 14, 2017 16:39:21 GMT
The law of gravity as we know it takes precedence. Any subjective aspect behind this does not apply to gravity, or any objective reality behind what is happening.
Make up your mind: is there an objective reality or is everything an illusion?
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 15, 2017 11:28:06 GMT
At the end of the day, objectivity and subjectivity is all one and whole and the same. Demonstrating once again that you are just a child playing dress up at philosophy. All you can post is mindless, contentless drivel free of anything resembling discipline, education, or the slightest sign of hard work.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jun 18, 2017 15:41:31 GMT
Gotta love it when know-nothing morons come in a thread and start attacking one of the few people on this board who's actually, seriously, formally studied the subject. Anti-intellectualism and Dunning-Kruger hard at work. I have no idea why faustus is even wasting the time.
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 18, 2017 17:17:45 GMT
I have no idea why faustus is even wasting the time. I'm not a very wise person, that's why.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jun 19, 2017 22:53:40 GMT
I'm not a very wise person, that's why. Yes, I know. Pleased that you have finally got it. You correlate your knowledge with wisdom, like most pretentious fools. And you correlate your ignorance with wisdom, like most Dunning-Kruger victims.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jun 19, 2017 23:49:34 GMT
And with that we're done.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 0:10:04 GMT
Our thoughts shape reality around us. If one sees themselves as a victim they will always be a slave
If one breaks themselves loose from mental slavery then they are free
If we have hate and anger and rage in our hearts that radiates outwards and the energy we get back from the universe will match that
If we are positive and have kindness and love that radiates outwards too
It all begins with the individual on a daily basis
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Post by gadreel on Jun 27, 2017 19:48:32 GMT
Scrappily written, but here's something I thought interesting, given the recent discussion had here: Bit late to the conversation, but this is one of the basic principles of Hermetic philosophy. The universe is not real, from the perspective of the infinite it is fleeting and not made of real objects but made up on energy interacting with other energy, but from the perspective of the finite, this is a solid table, that is a solid apple etc. In essence the point is that it does not really matter if the universe is real or not, in our current (perhaps only) incarnation, it must be treated as real. EDIT: And I just realised you said conciousness not universe, oh well I enjoyed my post
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Post by general313 on Jun 27, 2017 21:07:35 GMT
Scrappily written, but here's something I thought interesting, given the recent discussion had here: Bit late to the conversation, but this is one of the basic principles of Hermetic philosophy. The universe is not real, from the perspective of the infinite it is fleeting and not made of real objects but made up on energy interacting with other energy, but from the perspective of the finite, this is a solid table, that is a solid apple etc. In essence the point is that it does not really matter if the universe is real or not, in our current (perhaps only) incarnation, it must be treated as real. EDIT: And I just realised you said conciousness not universe, oh well I enjoyed my post Interesting, and I think the point can be made regardless of whether you're talking about consciousness or the universe. If determining if something is real or not involves measurement of some kind, then it is all relative, just as a kilogram can only be defined in reference to other objects or manifestations of this universe.
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Post by gadreel on Jun 27, 2017 21:22:04 GMT
Bit late to the conversation, but this is one of the basic principles of Hermetic philosophy. The universe is not real, from the perspective of the infinite it is fleeting and not made of real objects but made up on energy interacting with other energy, but from the perspective of the finite, this is a solid table, that is a solid apple etc. In essence the point is that it does not really matter if the universe is real or not, in our current (perhaps only) incarnation, it must be treated as real. EDIT: And I just realised you said conciousness not universe, oh well I enjoyed my post Interesting, and I think the point can be made regardless of whether you're talking about consciousness or the universe. If determining if something is real or not involves measurement of some kind, then it is all relative, just as a kilogram can only be defined in reference to other objects or manifestations of this universe. Yeah. It exposes a truth of the universe as well, the paradox that what is true is not really true from a different perspective. I suppose you could say that 'god' (or whatever you think the totality of the universe is), is the reference point for the actual truth, but then what is the reference point for the actual truth in god's universe?
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