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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 6, 2019 0:43:58 GMT
With the big layoff between season 7 and 8, there's been no shortage of time, and therefore no shortage of plot twists circulating. I'm wondering what people here think of them, what their reaction would be if it comes true, and how likely (do scale of 1-10 if you like) they are to come true. Feel free to add any I overlooked.
Theory 1:
Littlefinger isn't dead.
Theory 2:
Arya is not Arya.
Theory 3:
Tyrion is a Targaryen.
Theory 4:
Varys will betray Dany.
Theory 5:
Bran is, or is responsible for the creation of, the Night King.
Theory 6:
Jaime will kill Cersei.
Theory 7:
Arya, as Jaime, will kill Cersei.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 6, 2019 1:53:02 GMT
I think there is some possibility of theory 4 and 5. I will give 7.5/10 for Varys betraying Dany and 3/10 for Bran doing all the Night King drama.
Think Ser Jaime will probably die fighting the walkers.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 6, 2019 4:10:38 GMT
Varys was made to imply his choosing Daenerys was not unconditional, or something equivalent (I didn't see it, only read about it), so his changing side is thoroughly possible when the lizard bitch turns out to be just out for herself, as she's been claiming all along.
The rest is crap.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 6, 2019 4:15:55 GMT
Varys was made to imply his choosing Daenerys was not unconditional, or something equivalent (I didn't see it, only read about it), so his changing side is thoroughly possible when the lizard bitch turns out to be just out for herself, as she's been claiming all along. The rest is crap. I think she even insinuated about the pleasure she will take in burning him alive if he does anything contrary to her expectations.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 6, 2019 4:52:40 GMT
Varys was made to imply his choosing Daenerys was not unconditional, or something equivalent (I didn't see it, only read about it), so his changing side is thoroughly possible when the lizard bitch turns out to be just out for herself, as she's been claiming all along. The rest is crap. I think she even insinuated about the pleasure she will take in burning him alive if he does anything contrary to her expectations. Oh well, even better. Then Melisandre told him he would die in Westeros, didn't she? I would call for clear foreshadowing but GoT regularly does that to put viewers on a wrong path, so maybe not. What happened to the theory that Tyrion would be trialled and beheaded? I'd like to see that 
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Post by kevin on Apr 6, 2019 6:46:50 GMT
I think theory 4, 5 and 6 are a possibility.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 6, 2019 8:22:23 GMT
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Post by Marv on Apr 6, 2019 15:05:49 GMT
Theory 1:
Littlefinger isn't dead.
1. It was an impactful moment for viewers to watch a long disliked character get his comeuppance. If they reneg on that in the final season I will roll my eyes in disgust.
Theory 2:
Arya is not Arya.
1. It’s a theory based on the show misleading us as viewers deliberately. Showing us scenes that make little to no sense if we believe this theory.
Theory 3:
Tyrion is a Targaryen.
8 in the books, 2 in the show. Giving us the Jon Snow Targaryen reveal most likely means a Tyrion reveal is unlikely. That type of twist just doesn’t work as well he second time around. Especially so soon after.
Theory 4:
Varys will betray Dany.
5. I’m ok with Varys turning against Dany I would just prefer it if Varys was in the Right regarding the reasoning for it. So long as it’s not some ‘I’ve been working with the bad guys the whole time.’ Bond villain twist I’ll be fine with it.
Theory 5:
Bran is, or is responsible for the creation of, the Night King.
10. It seems like the mystery of the Night King and Bran as the 3IRaven are most likely intertwined somehow. It wouldn’t surprise me if Bran winds up responsible for many past events like the Mad King going Mad.
Theory 6:
Jaime will kill Cersei.
8. Circumstances depending. I don’t see either character there yet but I wouldn’t mind if this were the outcome. So long as it makes sense from a character and plot perspective.
Theory 7:
Arya, as Jaime, will kill Cersei.
5. I wouldn’t mind this...as long as we don’t miss Jaime dying. The only way I accept this is if we are fully aware that Jaime is Arya because otherwise it’d be a surprise to us that Jaime had died off camera. This is me assume you need to kill someone in order to take their face of course. We really aren’t sure how that magic works.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 6, 2019 20:41:01 GMT
This is me assume you need to kill someone in order to take their face of course. We really aren’t sure how that magic works. For some reason I made that assumption too, and Arya intimates that when she's intimidating Sansa in "Beyond the Wall' but on my last re-watch I noticed when Jaqen took poison and 'died,' afterwards Arya started peeling off faces and one of them was hers. It could be that Arya, as a relative novice, needs to use a dead person's face but the more experienced ones don't; or they could have just blown it in that episode (season 5 finale?).
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Post by Seto on Apr 8, 2019 7:48:14 GMT
Theory 1:
Littlefinger isn't dead.
No Chance
Same hopes happened for Stannis, look how that turned out.
Theory 2:
Arya is not Arya.
No Chance
Theory 3:
Tyrion is a Targaryen.
No Chance
Already got Jon as the secret Targaryan
Theory 4:
Varys will betray Dany.
Very Little Chance
Betray her for whom?? Fuckn Cersei?
Theory 5:
Bran is, or is responsible for the creation of, the Night King.
Very Little Chance
We already saw The Children of the Forest create The Night King
Theory 6:
Jaime will kill Cersei.
Likely Chance
Theory 7:
Arya, as Jaime, will kill Cersei.
I doubt it, but maybe
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 8, 2019 8:04:17 GMT
Theory 4: Varys will betray Dany. Very Little Chance Betray her for whom?? Fuckn Cersei? Jon or Sansa. I would not expect Jon's and Daenerys' alliance to last so Varys will be faced with a choice. This is why Kinvara was introduced, by the way. Her purpose was to make the seed of Varys' future change of heart visible. This is also why he was made to say his support was a conscious choice. Foreshadowing is in place. He will abandon the side of the "fire god" when he realises Daenerys is its tool.
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 8, 2019 12:39:11 GMT
The first three theories have no chance of ever coming true. The rest all could happen. I do not think Varys betrays Dany, but it's possible.
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Post by Marv on Apr 8, 2019 14:22:24 GMT
Have to say...I think it’s more likely Dany betrays the people...which causes Varys to betray her, than Varys betraying her for some other reason.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 8, 2019 14:31:19 GMT
Have to say...I think it’s more likely Dany betrays the people... She has done that already. She took the slave soldiers she "freed" to die in her war, took the Dothraki to a conquest without any intent of letting them have their way as they would want to, left the people of Meereen in the "care" of a sellsword who doesn't care and took away the dragons that kept them safe. Daenerys must be the biggest fake hero in the history of TV.
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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 8, 2019 20:01:49 GMT
Have to say...I think it’s more likely Dany betrays the people... She has done that already. She took the slave soldiers she "freed" to die in her war, took the Dothraki to a conquest without any intent of letting them have their way as they would want to, left the people of Meereen in the "care" of a sellsword who doesn't care and took away the dragons that kept them safe. Daenerys must be the biggest fake hero in the history of TV. 1) they chose to follow her. 2) it is wayyyyy better wirhour the taping. To change someone for the better is not to betray them. 3) that sell sword cares for Dany, therefore he cares. He is now charged with their protection. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 9, 2019 0:15:54 GMT
She has done that already. She took the slave soldiers she "freed" to die in her war, took the Dothraki to a conquest without any intent of letting them have their way as they would want to, left the people of Meereen in the "care" of a sellsword who doesn't care and took away the dragons that kept them safe. Daenerys must be the biggest fake hero in the history of TV. 1) they chose to follow her. 2) it is wayyyyy better wirhour the taping. To change someone for the better is not to betray them. 3) that sell sword cares for Dany, therefore he cares. He is now charged with their protection. The Unsullied were brainwashed and barely capable of choice, let alone know what else to do. She's abusing them. You're a fool if you think Daario cares for anything or can do what Daenerys needed dragons for. But then, Daenerys fans are the dumbest end of the audience anyway.
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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 9, 2019 1:08:07 GMT
1) they chose to follow her. 2) it is wayyyyy better wirhour the taping. To change someone for the better is not to betray them. 3) that sell sword cares for Dany, therefore he cares. He is now charged with their protection. The Unsullied were brainwashed and barely capable of choice, let alone know what else to do. She's abusing them. You're a fool if you thing Daario cares for anything or can do what Daenerys needed dragons for. But then, Daenerys fans are the dumbest end of the audience anyway. Insulting me doesn't make you right. I'm actually not a "Daenerys Fan" as you put it. But that appears to be your go to move. I actually don't care who wins. But I know it won't be Cercei. And I definitely don't feel the need to create a character on a message board dedicated to a brother fucking cunt of a queen who has proven incapable of ruling, leading, or protecting those she "loves." But then again, I'm not as smart as you. |
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Post by Marendil on Apr 9, 2019 1:44:34 GMT
The Unsullied were brainwashed and barely capable of choice, let alone know what else to do. She's abusing them. You're a fool if you thing Daario cares for anything or can do what Daenerys needed dragons for. But then, Daenerys fans are the dumbest end of the audience anyway. WAFFLE What does this mean? I've seen it a few times recently and can't figure it out. Usually the Urban Dictionary helps me out, but no joy on this one.
In my opinion Daenerys has already 'won' pretty much no matter what she ends up doing in Season Eight. She pledged to defend the Realm against the menace that would destroy all life in Westeros at the potential cost of her own safety and ambitions. If it's true she fries Tyrion for treason or somesuch, oh, well. We don't know what caused Cersei to (publicly) reverse course so drastically after talking to Tyrion and it could well be something Dany can't let slide.
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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 9, 2019 2:22:16 GMT
What does this mean? I've seen it a few times recently and can't figure it out. Usually the Urban Dictionary helps me out, but no joy on this one.
In my opinion Daenerys has already 'won' pretty much no matter what she ends up doing in Season Eight. She pledged to defend the Realm against the menace that would destroy all life in Westeros at the potential cost of her own safety and ambitions. If it's true she fries Tyrion for treason or somesuch, oh, well. We don't know what caused Cersei to (publicly) reverse course so drastically after talking to Tyrion and it could well be something Dany can't let slide.
It is what this website auto corrects the word to. Hint: Bronn doesn't believe there is a cure for this condition. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 9, 2019 2:26:48 GMT
What does this mean? I've seen it a few times recently and can't figure it out. Usually the Urban Dictionary helps me out, but no joy on this one.
In my opinion Daenerys has already 'won' pretty much no matter what she ends up doing in Season Eight. She pledged to defend the Realm against the menace that would destroy all life in Westeros at the potential cost of her own safety and ambitions. If it's true she fries Tyrion for treason or somesuch, oh, well. We don't know what caused Cersei to (publicly) reverse course so drastically after talking to Tyrion and it could well be something Dany can't let slide.
Also, it's another reason Cersei sucks. Like Littlefinger, she is willing to let the realm burn so long as she gets to rule over the ashes. I don't know why anyone would root for a person like that. |
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