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Post by Aj_June on Dec 14, 2021 12:58:39 GMT
2022 odds
A $ for Hamilton will get you $0.8 of profit
A $ for Max would get you $2.5 of Profit
A $ for George Russell will get you $6.5 in profit.
A $ for Charles will get you $16 in profit.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Dec 14, 2021 14:06:59 GMT
Lewis Hamilton races for Mercedes. He left McLaren at the end of 2012.😂 I think that sums up my interest levels in F1 nicely! Although to be fair I think I did know he was with Mercedes, just a Freudian level slip...
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Post by Zos on Dec 14, 2021 14:30:25 GMT
I think most F1 fans wanted to see Masi do exactly what he did: get the lapped traffic out of the way, go green and give us a one lap shoot out for the race and the title. Whether he should have done it, well, more the fact that he almost certainly shouldn't have done it, creates the backlash. But imagine if the race had finished under yellow with the damage clear, or 3 lapped cars ignoring the blue flag and not letting Max through to go for the title, is that really the finish anyone wanted? I think midichlorian is right, the protest is ultimately about denying the fans of a single lap one on one shoot out between the two best drivers of the season to decide the title in favour of either a finish under yellow or a finish where the defending champion is protected by 3 lapped cars. As an F1 fan with no horse in the race, I got what I wanted to see rather than the finish we probably should have had but I didn't want to see. So no, I'm not feeling robbed or that I deserved better. I feel like a one lap shoot out to decide the title is exactly what I, and this season, deserved. Any idea that Lewis was "protected" by 3 lapped cars though is balanced by the huge advantage that Max got from the crashed car and subsequent safety car bunching up the pack. It wasn't a one lap "shoot out" as the tyre difference made it pretty much impossible to keep Max behind him. Also why wasn't 4th place allowed the same courtesy to race for 3rd place? no lapped car removed to allow that to happen. This was cynically manipulated for the TV audience and does the sport a great disservice. I am actually glad that Max won the title, deserved it overall in my opinion and nice to split it from the constructors, but this was wrong no matter how much the result was good for the sport.
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Post by Zos on Dec 14, 2021 14:31:54 GMT
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Dec 14, 2021 19:45:30 GMT
I think most F1 fans wanted to see Masi do exactly what he did: get the lapped traffic out of the way, go green and give us a one lap shoot out for the race and the title. Whether he should have done it, well, more the fact that he almost certainly shouldn't have done it, creates the backlash. But imagine if the race had finished under yellow with the damage clear, or 3 lapped cars ignoring the blue flag and not letting Max through to go for the title, is that really the finish anyone wanted? I think midichlorian is right, the protest is ultimately about denying the fans of a single lap one on one shoot out between the two best drivers of the season to decide the title in favour of either a finish under yellow or a finish where the defending champion is protected by 3 lapped cars. As an F1 fan with no horse in the race, I got what I wanted to see rather than the finish we probably should have had but I didn't want to see. So no, I'm not feeling robbed or that I deserved better. I feel like a one lap shoot out to decide the title is exactly what I, and this season, deserved. Any idea that Lewis was "protected" by 3 lapped cars though is balanced by the huge advantage that Max got from the crashed car and subsequent safety car bunching up the pack. It wasn't a one lap "shoot out" as the tyre difference made it pretty much impossible to keep Max behind him. Also why wasn't 4th place allowed the same courtesy to race for 3rd place? no lapped car removed to allow that to happen. This was cynically manipulated for the TV audience and does the sport a great disservice. I am actually glad that Max won the title, deserved it overall in my opinion and nice to split it from the constructors, but this was wrong no matter how much the result was good for the sport. What, you think the manipulation started today? Both drivers have been allowed to get away with murder all year. Both were allowed to get away with murder in that very race. There's a large element of show business now with certain protected species and rules applied inconsistently and we can either enjoy it for what it is or stop watching.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Dec 16, 2021 12:18:50 GMT
Mercedes will not pursue appeal against F1 title-deciding Abu Dhabi result Mercedes have decided not to pursue their appeal against the results of the title-deciding Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Their move follows a decision by governing body the FIA to conduct a "detailed analysis" of the end of the race and an admission it was "tarnishing" Formula 1's image. Mercedes said they "welcomed" the move and would "hold the FIA accountable". Max Verstappen's Red Bull overtook Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes on the last lap to clinch the drivers' title. Mercedes also offered congratulations to Verstappen and Red Bull, adding: "We would like to express our sincere respect for your achievements this season. You made this F1 championship title fight truly epic." Mercedes had two protests rejected by F1 officials on Sunday, with the team arguing race director Michael Masi did not apply the rules correctly. The Australian appeared not to follow standard protocol on restarting the race after a late-race safety-car period. His decisions left Hamilton, who had led for the vast majority of the race and was on course for the world title, as a sitting duck on old tyres, with Verstappen behind him on fresh rubber. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59681314
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Post by Zos on Dec 16, 2021 13:14:50 GMT
Mercedes will not pursue appeal against F1 title-deciding Abu Dhabi result Mercedes have decided not to pursue their appeal against the results of the title-deciding Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Their move follows a decision by governing body the FIA to conduct a "detailed analysis" of the end of the race and an admission it was "tarnishing" Formula 1's image. Mercedes said they "welcomed" the move and would "hold the FIA accountable". Max Verstappen's Red Bull overtook Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes on the last lap to clinch the drivers' title. Mercedes also offered congratulations to Verstappen and Red Bull, adding: "We would like to express our sincere respect for your achievements this season. You made this F1 championship title fight truly epic." Mercedes had two protests rejected by F1 officials on Sunday, with the team arguing race director Michael Masi did not apply the rules correctly. The Australian appeared not to follow standard protocol on restarting the race after a late-race safety-car period. His decisions left Hamilton, who had led for the vast majority of the race and was on course for the world title, as a sitting duck on old tyres, with Verstappen behind him on fresh rubber. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59681314Right decision, too late for the decision to be changed and pursuing any further would just look like sour grapes. Was the wrong decision in the race though as the tyre issue made it completely unfair. A final lap with the lapped cars flagged to allow Max to pass but still between him and Max would have been a fair decision to both parties. Masi must quit or be sacked though.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Dec 16, 2021 14:18:39 GMT
Yeah, agree with every word, zos.
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Post by sjg on Dec 16, 2021 17:21:29 GMT
Me too Zos, well said.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Dec 16, 2021 18:50:01 GMT
Yep, right call by Sir Lewis Hamilton and his team. Congratulations on the "Sir" BTW.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Feb 17, 2022 13:50:32 GMT
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Post by sjg on Feb 17, 2022 18:17:52 GMT
"Michael Masi will be offered a new position within the FIA" I wonder what that role will be, tea boy? toilet cleaner? covid tester? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Mar 7, 2022 4:15:55 GMT
MotoGP back with a good Qatar Grand Prix. Bastianini winning for Team Greseni was a feel good moment. Binder 2nd, Aleix almost nabbed a podium for Aprilia from his brother Pol.
Horror night for Team Ducati, Miller starting badly and then having to retire with electrical problems, and then Bagnaia took out Jorge Martin to cap off a perfect evening...
Disappointing night for Suzuki and Yamaha. Vinales and Dovi had very quiet returns too.
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Post by sjg on Mar 7, 2022 18:57:56 GMT
That was a good opening MotoGP weekend. I was genuinely touched by The Beasts win. I'm amazed Darryn Binder didn't bin it or take anyone out ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) The Indy Car race the weekend before was pretty good too. A great drive by Scott!
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Mar 7, 2022 22:50:04 GMT
That was a good opening MotoGP weekend. I was genuinely touched by The Beasts win. I'm amazed Darryn Binder didn't bin it or take anyone out ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) The Indy Car race the weekend before was pretty good too. A great drive by Scott! Unfortunately, I can't follow Indycar this year as the rights in Australia changed hands, but I was very happy to see Scott doing so well.
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 19, 2022 16:05:29 GMT
Charles Leclerc edges Verstappen to take the pole in the season opener. Can Ferrari challenge RedBull in the real race?
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Mar 19, 2022 17:18:24 GMT
Stroll was embarrassing, out-qualified by a guy who was out of shape and had not raced since 2020.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Mar 19, 2022 18:17:44 GMT
I said at the end of last year we need a third team to stand up so I welcome any pole that isn't Red Bull or Mercedes.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Mar 19, 2022 19:56:57 GMT
Qualifying in the Motos: Fabio, a week after whingeing about how slow his bike is and lamenting he may never win a race again, takes pole. The next 6 are all Ducatis or KTMs. In order:Martin, Zarco, Brad Binder, Bastianini, Pecco and Okiveira. Rins at 8th is the only Suzuki in the top 10. Aleix is the top Aprilia at 10th, Marquez the best Honda at 15th after crashing twice in Q1. Mir also wiped out in Q1.
Can the lone Yamaha outlast the Ducatis, or will they nullify each other leaving Binder to storm through? I hope for the latter but expect the former.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Mar 20, 2022 9:01:01 GMT
KTM! KTM! KTM!
Not the KTM I expected, but I'll take it. Brilliant ride from Miguel! Fabio really raced well once the track dried to finish 2nd. Zarko grabbed the last spot on the podium from Miller ahead of the Suzuki's. Brad Binder is the championship leader after finishing 8th, 3 places ahead of Bastianini. Darren Binder had probably the ride of the day, slicing through the field from 23rd on the grid to finish 10th.
What a race and what an occasion! 63'000 attend the first MotoGP event in Indonesia in 25 years and sat in a tropical storm for an hour to see the main race. A woman walked around for about 30 minutes doing a local rain dance custom with the crowd going ape shit for her.
Before that we saw a Thai win in Moto2 followed by a crowd pop so big you'd be forgiven for thinking he was an Indonesian, and then he gave the best post-race interview I've ever heard. Moto3 was dominated by Foggia, very rare to see a 5s margin in that class.
Anyway, that was fun. I have a lot of affection for Indonesia and I'm glad they supported the event and eventually got to see their MotoGP race.
That was fun. Two thumbs up.
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