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Post by DC-Fan on May 7, 2019 1:19:01 GMT
Yep, that was fucking lame. Captain Marvel says she'll take the gauntlet over to the van and then a half-dozen women show up to escort her. And she still didn't get the gauntlet over to the van. It was a reference to the A-Force. Who in the blue hell is A-Force? Is A-Force a rip-off of the A-Team?
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on May 7, 2019 1:27:06 GMT
It was a reference to the A-Force. Who in the blue hell is A-Force? Is A-Force a rip-off of the A-Team? It's the female version of the secret Avengers.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 7, 2019 2:54:57 GMT
Did they use Dr Strange’s time travel? I’m only discussing Tony and Hulk’s invention of two different versions of it. Time travel itself has always been a McGuffin to advance story. So it's not time travel, just they way it was accomplished that irks you? Time travel is always goofy but a necessary evil to advance particular stories. It should always be viewed as the equivalent of magic and we should just sit back and see the consequences of the magic. Pretending to explain how it's invented is wasted time and especially if it takes a ridiculously small amount of time. It's not that it irks me only that it's lame. As I said, people will ignore it anyway to focus on what it allows to happen in the story.
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Post by Skaathar on May 7, 2019 3:14:17 GMT
That girl power bit during the final battle. Yep, that was fucking lame. Captain Marvel says she'll take the gauntlet over to the van and then a half-dozen women show up to escort her. And she still didn't get the gauntlet over to the van. Ah crap. You're back.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on May 7, 2019 6:08:11 GMT
That girl power bit during the final battle. Yep, that was fucking lame. Captain Marvel says she'll take the gauntlet over to the van and then a half-dozen women show up to escort her. And she still didn't get the gauntlet over to the van. Well, this just shows how sexist you are! And I thought you said Shuri was weak, but she was there ready to beat the shit out of Thanos.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 7, 2019 13:17:37 GMT
He can do both: fight threats and find himself. The two are not mutually exclusive. Appointing a leader is always responsible. It's really not the same thing. It's more like quitting a job you weren't doing and leaving someone even more competent to take charge. Remember: As far back as The Dark World, Thor didn't want to be king. He spent years traveling the nine realms, restoring order. Then he spent five years getting drunk. Thor was never meant to be a king. Of course he can do both, point is that wasn't his purpose was it? His main purpose to go with the Guardians was because he wanted to find himself, not fight threats. Besides, that's not what the GOTG do. Especially now that Gamora is gone, they'll probably go back to being space pirates for hire. No, appointing a leader isn't always responsible. If you appointed a leader other than yourself because you knew for sure they could do a better job than you then sure, that might be responsible. But that's not what Thor's reason was. He simply appointed a leader because he didn't want the responsibility. If he never tried to do the job, then he would never know whether Valkyrie was better than him or not right? Besides, something you're forgetting is that the Asgardian throne is not something one can simply "appoint". From what we've seen, the ruler of Asgard is patrilineal, with the eldest male heir inheriting the throne and leading their people. The role of Asgard's ruler falls on Thor and Thor alone. And again, had he tried to lead and failed at it that would have been a different story. Yet he never even tried. I disagree. He specifically says as far back as The Dark World that he needs to be out there in the universe to protect Asgard. This is the logical conclusion to that. And it is what the Guardians do. We see in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, they take jobs fighting otherworldly beasts and monsters. Plus, they already saved the galaxy twice. So that is literally what they do. It's how they got their name. Someone who doesn't want to do a job won't be as good as someone who is willing to do it. At least they'll make an effort. Thor had five years, and before that two. He doesn't want to rule. That's not someone who should lead. The only reason the eldest male gets it is because Odin, the ruler, decreed it so. He locked away his first born. And then when he banished his second born, someone who wasn't even Asgardian took over. Blood does not equal qualified to lead. Asgard's rule falls on whoever the previous ruler wants to appoint. Thor didn't want it, so he gave it to someone capable. Far more responsible than sitting and drinking for five years.
Well that's just completely wrong considering all the far more qualified step-parents in the world.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 7, 2019 13:20:04 GMT
So it's not time travel, just they way it was accomplished that irks you? Time travel is always goofy but a necessary evil to advance particular stories. It should always be viewed as the equivalent of magic and we should just sit back and see the consequences of the magic. Pretending to explain how it's invented is wasted time and especially if it takes a ridiculously small amount of time. It's not that it irks me only that it's lame. As I said, people will ignore it anyway to focus on what it allows to happen in the story. Nah, it's part of the fun. Plus, again, Tony didn't invent time travel. Just figured out how to work it. Time travel had already been introduced.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 7, 2019 13:25:30 GMT
Time travel is always goofy but a necessary evil to advance particular stories. It should always be viewed as the equivalent of magic and we should just sit back and see the consequences of the magic. Pretending to explain how it's invented is wasted time and especially if it takes a ridiculously small amount of time. It's not that it irks me only that it's lame. As I said, people will ignore it anyway to focus on what it allows to happen in the story. Nah, it's part of the fun. Plus, again, Tony didn't invent time travel. Just figured out how to work it. Time travel had already been introduced. He did invent this version of it. This argument is like saying someone didn’t create a Thermos because cups were already around. It wasn’t fun to me, it was lame. That said, I didn’t say it was lame with the expectation that everyone would agree.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 7, 2019 13:49:45 GMT
Nah, it's part of the fun. Plus, again, Tony didn't invent time travel. Just figured out how to work it. Time travel had already been introduced. He did invent this version of it. This argument is like saying someone didn’t create a Thermos because cups were already around. It wasn’t fun to me, it was lame. That said, I didn’t say it was lame with the expectation that everyone would agree. No, he didn't invent it. He figured out how it could be used. It'd be like saying the Wright brothers invented flight. Tony didn't even know about it. Scott Lang told him how the quantum realm could be used for time travel. Tony just figured out the math. This was a great way to get him back with the Avengers and their mission.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 7, 2019 13:50:43 GMT
It was a reference to the A-Force. Who in the blue hell is A-Force? Is A-Force a rip-off of the A-Team? Don't quote the Rock. And use google. It's right there.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 7, 2019 14:40:02 GMT
He did invent this version of it. This argument is like saying someone didn’t create a Thermos because cups were already around. It wasn’t fun to me, it was lame. That said, I didn’t say it was lame with the expectation that everyone would agree. No, he didn't invent it. He figured out how it could be used. It'd be like saying the Wright brothers invented flight. Tony didn't even know about it. Scott Lang told him how the quantum realm could be used for time travel. Tony just figured out the math. This was a great way to get him back with the Avengers and their mission. semantics but I’ll change my response to say how he figured out how to use it was lame.
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Post by miike80 on May 7, 2019 15:14:15 GMT
It was a reference to the A-Force. Who in the blue hell is A-Force? Is A-Force a rip-off of the A-Team? Yes. They're also a rip-off of A-Teens. They're not as beloved and well-known as Shazam. An A-Force movie could only dream of making 340 mil in it's entirety run
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 7, 2019 18:56:31 GMT
That girl power bit during the final battle. ^this^ I wouldn't say that I hated this moment, but it was SO obvious and over the top. Did we need a feminism ad right in the middle of the movie biggest moment?
The more and more I think it, about the more I hate HOW they did this scene. I don't hate that they threw in girl power. I'm all for girl power. There was quite a bit of girl power in there already what with Captain Marvel showing up out of nowhere whenever they needed her for a story beat.
But it was the way the movie stopped right in the middle of the big climactic showdown to do a set of woman hero shots where the camera actually holds for a few minutes and moves from side to side to capture each female. UGH. It was SOOOO obvious and NOT blended into the action at all. It was like an advertisement right in the middle of the dramatic flow.
If they had given each character a moment, a story beat, to kick ass on their own or in small groups of 2 or 3 (like they did in Infinity War by the way) it would have been just as effective and not as obnoxious.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 8, 2019 0:53:16 GMT
Who in the blue hell is A-Force? Is A-Force a rip-off of the A-Team? It's the female version of the secret Avengers. So A-Force is a rip-off of Birds of Prey?
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Post by sostie on May 8, 2019 11:59:22 GMT
It's the female version of the secret Avengers. So A-Force is a rip-off of Birds of Prey? As much as Birds Of Prey is a rip-off of Femforce.
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Post by DSDSquared on May 8, 2019 12:23:13 GMT
That girl power bit during the final battle. Easily this. I loved the movie, but this scene was ridiculous.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 8, 2019 13:11:49 GMT
It's the female version of the secret Avengers. So A-Force is a rip-off of Birds of Prey? Like The Hulk is a rip-off of Solomon Grundy.
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