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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 4:36:18 GMT
So... Hulk was told by Tilda Swinton that the stones had to be put back as if they were never taken- preventing time branches/alternate realities...
But how did Cap manage to put the space stone back in the cube? Or the power stone back on that one planet? Or the reality stone back into Jane? Did he go to Asgard and inject her in the butt with it?! ...Without her knowing?!
Also, didn't Thor taking Mjolnir create a new reality?
And HOW did Cap return as an old man?! Didn't staying with Peggy create a new timeline? How did he return to the same future?!
Dont get me wrong. It was a great movie. But none of it makes sense. Unless I'm missing something?
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Post by havenless on Apr 30, 2019 5:26:12 GMT
Cap brought Mjolnir with him when he went back in time, so assumingly he returned it the same he returned the stones. It was sitting next to him in the time machine.
But they never resolved Loki stealing the tesseract, so that definitely created a new timeline.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 30, 2019 5:28:41 GMT
So... Hulk was told by Tilda Swinton that the stones had to be put back as if they were never taken- preventing time branches/alternate realities... But how did Cap manage to put the space stone back in the cube? Or the power stone back on that one planet? Or the reality stone back into Jane? Did he go to Asgard and inject her in the butt with it?! ...Without her knowing?! Also, didn't Thor taking Mjolnir create a new reality? And HOW did Cap return as an old man?! Didn't staying with Peggy create a new timeline? How did he return to the same future?! Dont get me wrong. It was a great movie. But none of it makes sense. Unless I'm missing something? 
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 5:35:45 GMT
Cap brought Mjolnir with him when he went back in time, so assumingly he returned it the same he returned the stones. It was sitting next to him in the time machine. But they never resolved Loki stealing the tesseract, so that definitely created a new timeline. Interesting. I didn't see Mjolnir there. Good eye. But... That still doesn't explain how he gets to Asgard or the power stone planet. Or how he gets the Ether back into Jane's butt.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 30, 2019 5:38:47 GMT
Cap brought Mjolnir with him when he went back in time, so assumingly he returned it the same he returned the stones. It was sitting next to him in the time machine. But they never resolved Loki stealing the tesseract, so that definitely created a new timeline. Interesting. I didn't see Mjolnir there. Good eye. But... That still doesn't explain how he gets to Asgard or the power stone planet. Or how he gets the Ether back into Jane's butt. 
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Post by havenless on Apr 30, 2019 5:40:39 GMT
Cap brought Mjolnir with him when he went back in time, so assumingly he returned it the same he returned the stones. It was sitting next to him in the time machine. But they never resolved Loki stealing the tesseract, so that definitely created a new timeline. Interesting. I didn't see Mjolnir there. Good eye. But... That still doesn't explain how he gets to Asgard or the power stone planet. Or how he gets the Ether back into Jane's butt. He has the infinity gauntlet... all those things are cakewalks. Do the space stone last. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 30, 2019 5:44:32 GMT
Captain America didn't 'return' as an old man he went back to the past and stayed there and arrived at that specific moment in the future when they were sending him back in time. It did not create an alternate timeline as the younger version of him was found in ice in 2011-2012 and took part in everything that transpired from there to then, so there were *two* Steve Rogers co-existing all this time the older one chose to stay low and avoid getting involved with his younger self or his associates and was with Peggy till her passing.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 30, 2019 13:35:11 GMT
So... Hulk was told by Tilda Swinton that the stones had to be put back as if they were never taken- preventing time branches/alternate realities... But how did Cap manage to put the space stone back in the cube? Or the power stone back on that one planet? Or the reality stone back into Jane? Did he go to Asgard and inject her in the butt with it?! ...Without her knowing?!Also, didn't Thor taking Mjolnir create a new reality? And HOW did Cap return as an old man?! Didn't staying with Peggy create a new timeline? How did he return to the same future?! Dont get me wrong. It was a great movie. But none of it makes sense. Unless I'm missing something? I'll just chalk it up to Asgardian technology.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 14:40:10 GMT
My guess:
Power stone he brings back to that planet while Quill is knocked out
Soul stone he brings back to Vormir just as Red Skull is packing his bags
Reality stone maybe he gives it to Odin with Mjolnir. I can see him figuring out what’s going on like bald Tilda Swinton did
Maybe he can use the time stone on the space stone and mind stone to put them back in the cube/sceptre
Give back the time stone last
How he ended up on the bench I’m not sure. Perhaps he could’ve gone back to that reality when Peggy died?
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 30, 2019 16:50:02 GMT
My guess: Power stone he brings back to that planet while Quill is knocked out Soul stone he brings back to Vormir just as Red Skull is packing his bags Reality stone maybe he gives it to Odin with Mjolnir. I can see him figuring out what’s going on like bald Tilda Swinton did Maybe he can use the time stone on the space stone and mind stone to put them back in the cube/sceptreGive back the time stone last How he ended up on the bench I’m not sure. Perhaps he could’ve gone back to that reality when Peggy died? Brilliant. Just as Strange reconstructed the apple and Thanos reconstructed Vision.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 17:20:41 GMT
Captain America didn't 'return' as an old man he went back to the past and stayed there and arrived at that specific moment in the future when they were sending him back in time. It did not create an alternate timeline as the younger version of him was found in ice in 2011-2012 and took part in everything that transpired from there to then, so there were *two* Steve Rogers co-existing all this time the older one chose to stay low and avoid getting involved with his younger self or his associates and was with Peggy till her passing. Right, but wouldn't Steve staying in the past have caused a divergent timeline? If anyone recognized him it would have certainly impacted reality. Unless he became a complete hermit and never left Peggy's basement.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 17:21:43 GMT
My guess: Power stone he brings back to that planet while Quill is knocked out Soul stone he brings back to Vormir just as Red Skull is packing his bags Reality stone maybe he gives it to Odin with Mjolnir. I can see him figuring out what’s going on like bald Tilda Swinton did Maybe he can use the time stone on the space stone and mind stone to put them back in the cube/sceptre Give back the time stone last How he ended up on the bench I’m not sure. Perhaps he could’ve gone back to that reality when Peggy died? But how did he get to Vormir?! Also did you notice that Thor said "It's a trap"? 😀
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 17:22:33 GMT
Interesting. I didn't see Mjolnir there. Good eye. But... That still doesn't explain how he gets to Asgard or the power stone planet. Or how he gets the Ether back into Jane's butt. He has the infinity gauntlet... all those things are cakewalks. Do the space stone last. But he can't wield it! It killed Stark and maimed Hulk!
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Post by bud47 on Apr 30, 2019 17:22:46 GMT
Cap probably had quite the surprise when he returned the soul stone, coming face to face with The Red Skull again.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 30, 2019 18:08:15 GMT
My guess: Power stone he brings back to that planet while Quill is knocked out Soul stone he brings back to Vormir just as Red Skull is packing his bags Reality stone maybe he gives it to Odin with Mjolnir. I can see him figuring out what’s going on like bald Tilda Swinton did Maybe he can use the time stone on the space stone and mind stone to put them back in the cube/sceptre Give back the time stone last How he ended up on the bench I’m not sure. Perhaps he could’ve gone back to that reality when Peggy died? But how did he get to Vormir?! Also did you notice that Thor said "It's a trap"? 😀 Space Stone.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 30, 2019 18:08:33 GMT
He has the infinity gauntlet... all those things are cakewalks. Do the space stone last. But he can't wield it! It killed Stark and maimed Hulk! Because they used the snap, unleashing the power of all six stones at the exact same time. Cap wouldn't do that.
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Post by miike80 on Apr 30, 2019 18:16:33 GMT
But he can't wield it! It killed Stark and maimed Hulk! Because they used the snap, unleashing the power of all six stones at the exact same time. Cap wouldn't do that. Exactly that! Thanos,Hulk and Tony got damaged after using all six stones |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Apr 30, 2019 19:26:37 GMT
So... Hulk was told by Tilda Swinton that the stones had to be put back as if they were never taken- preventing time branches/alternate realities... But how did Cap manage to put the space stone back in the cube? Or the power stone back on that one planet? Or the reality stone back into Jane? Did he go to Asgard and inject her in the butt with it?! ...Without her knowing?! Also, didn't Thor taking Mjolnir create a new reality? And HOW did Cap return as an old man?! Didn't staying with Peggy create a new timeline? How did he return to the same future?! Dont get me wrong. It was a great movie. But none of it makes sense. Unless I'm missing something? You're probably going to get, if you haven't already, a ton of fanatics saying that none of those are confusing, nor are any of them plot holes, etc. etc.
But they are. Absolutely they messed a few things up for the sake of moving past certain things to keep the story moving.
SPOILERS For example: Where is the Mjonlnir that Captain America took with him when they sent him back in time? He came back as an old man with the shield, but where's the hammer?
And all the things you mentioned are all valid questions too. Cap came back as an old man because he stayed in the past. That I'm okay with, but there are other issues.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the movie just the way it is. But there are some issues that need to be worked out. Maybe they did it that way on purpose so that they could deal with them in future movies? I hope.
Here's my biggest question... All these people took possession of an infinity stone at any given time throughout the movie... isn't just ONE infinity stone so powerful that it could kill a normal person just by them holding it? Isn't that what almost happened at the end of GOTG Vol 1? Quill only survives because he's half Ego, and the Guardians shared the power by holding hands. And yet, in this movie everyones like "yeah, let me hold them stones for a minute. It'll be fine."
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Post by havenless on Apr 30, 2019 19:54:31 GMT
He has the infinity gauntlet... all those things are cakewalks. Do the space stone last. But he can't wield it! It killed Stark and maimed Hulk! They they snapped their fingers. He’s not snapping anything, just channeling the space stone, which Loki did often with no effects. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 30, 2019 20:45:16 GMT
Needless to say, I'd be quite intrigued with a Steve Rogers: Reverse Time Heist graphic novel series.
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