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Post by bluerisk on May 6, 2019 20:44:08 GMT
It's interesting to think that the "mad blood" in her will come out due to so many events going the wrong way lately. the death of Misandei and the dragons could do it.
However, IMO, SO FAR I think her reactions to things have been kind've reasonable reactions. Who wouldn't want to kick Cersei's ass for what she's done? The only thing Dany's done that I thought was "what?!" was when she gave Jon an ultimatum last night.
However, I don't see why the idea of them getting married and just being king and queen together is a problem. Solves everything. We're already past the problem of her being his aunt (EEEWWWWW!!!). They've already done "the deed", and everyone knows it, so whats the big deal now? Just marry and no problem. She should have attacked Kings's Landing long ago, even before High Garden was attacked. Tyrion is so god damn stupid thx to the writers...all this shit to make someone like Cercei an enemy greater than Sauron or the King's King...SJW to the max.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 6, 2019 20:47:31 GMT
It's interesting to think that the "mad blood" in her will come out due to so many events going the wrong way lately. the death of Misandei and the dragons could do it.
However, IMO, SO FAR I think her reactions to things have been kind've reasonable reactions. Who wouldn't want to kick Cersei's ass for what she's done? The only thing Dany's done that I thought was "what?!" was when she gave Jon an ultimatum last night.
However, I don't see why the idea of them getting married and just being king and queen together is a problem. Solves everything. We're already past the problem of her being his aunt (EEEWWWWW!!!). They've already done "the deed", and everyone knows it, so whats the big deal now? Just marry and no problem. It is a problem when the person you are married to A is your aunt and B you dont love her , jon does NOT love dany , and C like varys very well pointed out SHE WANTS TO BE IN CHARGE and it will be hard if she is married to jon because they will love him MORE than her follow her more than her she wont have much authority and that is what dany wants more than anything to be in POWER and at this point as much as she proclaims she loves jon i doubt it , she knows she is being manipulated by him as she told sansa , and didnt mind IT she is doing her share of manipulation as well as we all saw on last nights episode , Jon all his life was known as a bastard a snow he was shunned by many even by his own "stepmother" was never shown affection or love because of what he was all he wanted to know was who was his mother , so finally after 8 long years he finds out who his parents are and he is no bastard only to have the one person who is related to him by his father side commands him NOT to reveal it that is COLD that is a BITCHY THING TO DO to someone . I think it's gross, but Inter-familial marriage doesn't seem to be as big a no-no in the GOTG universe. Apparently Taragaryens have done it before, and Cersei was about to do something similar with Jamie.
Also I believe that Dany has "seen the wisdom" of working out far greater problems than this in the past. She was gonna hook up with that dude in Qarth, she married that dude in Mereen, she's pardoned people who were once enemies (and killed a few). Even in this episode she forgave a potential enemy in Gendry. Even uplifted him! It isn't beyond her to see past this as a problem.
...Unless they write her to be a totally unreasonable whack job from here on out. Which is what I think they're doing.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 6, 2019 20:49:34 GMT
It's interesting to think that the "mad blood" in her will come out due to so many events going the wrong way lately. the death of Misandei and the dragons could do it.
However, IMO, SO FAR I think her reactions to things have been kind've reasonable reactions. Who wouldn't want to kick Cersei's ass for what she's done? The only thing Dany's done that I thought was "what?!" was when she gave Jon an ultimatum last night.
However, I don't see why the idea of them getting married and just being king and queen together is a problem. Solves everything. We're already past the problem of her being his aunt (EEEWWWWW!!!). They've already done "the deed", and everyone knows it, so whats the big deal now? Just marry and no problem. She should have attacked Kings's Landing long ago, even before High Garden was attacked. Tyrion is so god damn stupid thx to the writers...all this shit to make someone like Cercei an enemy greater than Sauron or the King's King...SJW to the max. What the heck does any of this have to do with social justice?!
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 6, 2019 21:01:03 GMT
It is a problem when the person you are married to A is your aunt and B you dont love her , jon does NOT love dany , and C like varys very well pointed out SHE WANTS TO BE IN CHARGE and it will be hard if she is married to jon because they will love him MORE than her follow her more than her she wont have much authority and that is what dany wants more than anything to be in POWER and at this point as much as she proclaims she loves jon i doubt it , she knows she is being manipulated by him as she told sansa , and didnt mind IT she is doing her share of manipulation as well as we all saw on last nights episode , Jon all his life was known as a bastard a snow he was shunned by many even by his own "stepmother" was never shown affection or love because of what he was all he wanted to know was who was his mother , so finally after 8 long years he finds out who his parents are and he is no bastard only to have the one person who is related to him by his father side commands him NOT to reveal it that is COLD that is a BITCHY THING TO DO to someone . I think it's gross, but Inter-familial marriage doesn't seem to be as big a no-no in the GOTG universe. Apparently Taragaryens have done it before, and Cersei was about to do something similar with Jamie.
Also I believe that Dany has "seen the wisdom" of working out far greater problems than this in the past. She was gonna hook up with that dude in Qarth, she married that dude in Mereen, she's pardoned people who were once enemies (and killed a few). Even in this episode she forgave a potential enemy in Gendry. Even uplifted him! It isn't beyond her to see past this as a problem.
...Unless they write her to be a totally unreasonable whack job from here on out. Which is what I think they're doing.
she uplifted or most likely manipulated Gendry so she can have him in his pocket poor gendry in his own words he doesnt even know how to hold a fork dany even admitted it to tyrion sitting besides her it was part of her "clever" plan sansa looked on disgusted -tyrion caught sansas gaze dany last nights episode came off really bad disgusting manipulating asking people to lie ,power hungry , she is loosing it more and more but isnt most of the stuff dany is saying and doing stuff she has been doing all along? i mean if you really think about it , like she told sansa all her life she had one goal the iron throne , dany doesnt want marriage or love she wants power and the iron throne , she hooked up or married some of those men without loving them to further her quest she had a hot guy darrio who loved her and she told tyrion she couldnt feel anything for him , as for the relations between dany and jon , jon couldnt even have sex with her , dany may not mind because she is a targaryen but like varys pointed out aunt/nephew marriage is not accepted in westeros , cersei and jamie were together in secret
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Post by shinnickneth on May 6, 2019 22:42:55 GMT
They're very deliberately showing her slowly cracking. She will be her own downfall, sadly. To be fair, it isn't all in her head. Tyrion, Varys, Sansa, Jon, Sam, and others have been actively (to one degree or another) talking behind her back about the idea of replacing her with someone else on the Iron Throne. Tyrion's council leads to her losing a lot of her allies/assets (Tyrells, Dothraki, Sand Snakes, etc.) and then he doesn't bother to even sit near her as her Hand after The Long Night...sitting next to a Lannister instead. Jon doesn't interact with her front of the Northerners, choosing to spend time with Tormund and other men instead. Jorah is dead, so the one person who could help her learn about the customs of Westeros (like he did in Essos) is gone. 1 dragon was dead at the time. Daario is M.I.A. Now's she's lost another dragon and Missandei. Things aren't looking good for her. I'm actually finding myself feeling for her a little bit...but I have the feeling this will dissipate with another of her extreme decisions.
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Post by anthonyrocks on May 6, 2019 23:48:25 GMT
Daenerys Targaryen's Fans are Really Gonna Go Berserk if She turns Evil.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 7, 2019 1:05:46 GMT
Who wouldn't want to kick Cersei's ass for what she's done?
Cersei has been defending herself all along. Welcome to the shit pile, turd. May you choke in it.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 7, 2019 1:07:17 GMT
Daenerys has always represented the side of dumb stinking scum. They don't know their own stench, of course.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 7, 2019 1:09:32 GMT
Daenerys Targaryen's Fans are Really Gonna Go Berserk if She turns Evil. She is already, has been for a long time. The dumbfucks just don't see it and yes, berserk is in their nature. This is not just a TV show, it reveals the mob who lives next to you.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 7, 2019 1:58:40 GMT
She should have attacked Kings's Landing long ago, even before High Garden was attacked. Tyrion is so god damn stupid thx to the writers...all this shit to make someone like Cercei an enemy greater than Sauron or the King's King...SJW to the max. What the heck does any of this have to do with social justice?! The scum doesn't know it stinks.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 7, 2019 2:11:43 GMT
She should have attacked Kings's Landing long ago, even before High Garden was attacked. Tyrion is so god damn stupid thx to the writers...all this shit to make someone like Cercei an enemy greater than Sauron or the King's King... I have taken offence to the presentation of the Lannisters as villains from the start. I knew by S1E05 they weren't but it kept growing and it is clear that is the basic position of the author, who will not identify with haughty, rich, realistic, handsome blond people. He makes it all relative, though, and shows how the sides he sympathises with have their flaws and extremes too, so we get surviving Starks and a falling Daenerys. He remains a moderate rejecting the extreme. His talk of a "bittersweet" ending is my only hope of seeing him leave Cersei alive but whatever happens, it will be the work of a left-leaning idealist.
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Post by randalgraves on May 7, 2019 3:28:20 GMT
Daenerys Targaryen's Fans are Really Gonna Go Berserk if She turns Evil. And I'm gonna love it
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Post by anthonyrocks on May 7, 2019 5:04:36 GMT
Daenerys Targaryen's Fans are Really Gonna Go Berserk if She turns Evil. And I'm gonna love it LOL, If it happens then I can just imagine all of the Reaction Videos that will be on YOUTUBE because of it.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 7, 2019 5:10:16 GMT
After last night's episode, I have to ask this
Is Daenerys Targaryen about to go Mad, Turn Evil, and Try to Kill just about Everybody (Both the Bad and the Innocent) in King's Landing ?
Yes.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 7, 2019 5:11:43 GMT
It was announced from Season 1 already. She took her brother's role the moment he died. "He was no dragon. Fire cannot kill a dragon", so she was. Discerning observers have seen her grow more like him with each season and predicted she would turn this way. Even the dog sees it:
yep thats the part she was jealous of the love and affection everyone had for jon dany is all about me mem ememememememememememme me lol mememememememememe
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Post by anthonyrocks on May 7, 2019 5:12:11 GMT
After last night's episode, I have to ask this
Is Daenerys Targaryen about to go Mad, Turn Evil, and Try to Kill just about Everybody (Both the Bad and the Innocent) in King's Landing ?
Yes. Lord Vader, I get the feeling that you know something that the rest of us don't.
Should I ask you or do I need to use The Schwartz ?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 7, 2019 5:13:23 GMT
Lord Vader, I get the feeling that you know something that the rest of us don't.
Should I ask you or do I need to use The Schwartz ?
Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
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Post by anthonyrocks on May 7, 2019 5:14:20 GMT
Lord Vader, I get the feeling that you know something that the rest of us don't.
Should I ask you or do I need to use The Schwartz ?
Search your feelings, you know it to be true! I DON'T KNOW NOTHING!
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 7, 2019 5:20:57 GMT
I thought Lord of the Red Keep was an isolated whacko here in his Cersei defending, but Dany is rushing her tired people into battle, making thinly veiled threats to her own allies, and is about to light up the citizens of KL - children included, and still has people defending her.
What a crazy board.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 7, 2019 5:27:59 GMT
I thought Lord of the Red Keep was an isolated whacko here in his Cersei defending, but Dany is rushing her tired people into battle, making thinly veiled threats to her own allies, and is about to light up the citizens of KL - children included, and still has people defending her. What a crazy board. Take a real, sober look at Cersei and you'll see a woman defending herself against constant adversity, nothing more. She gave a few excuses to the hate she is subjected to but did nothing to cause or even justify it.
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