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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 7, 2019 17:44:18 GMT
*MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR THE REST OF SEASON 8!*
Nice try but some of the crap doesn't make sense so it's fake.
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Post by bluerisk on May 7, 2019 18:11:45 GMT
If she manages to get Drogon killed, then I'll hope for a very painful death like being burned alive...wildfire might do, and according to Martin it was a one time thing, in the show a two time thing.
After the show has ended, I want Cercei (R+L*), the Winterfell Bastard (V), Euron (R) and the blonde bimbo (V+R+D?) gone. These four shall die. Tyrion (for his stupidity) and the Mountain (Cleganebowl) would be sweet too, but it is these four I want to see dead for killing endangered species and or being responsible for their death (so far two dragons and a direwolf)
Killing Rhaegal was the wort since the death of Viserion. Summer, Hodor, Lady, Wun Wun, Melisandre and Shireen...these were people, giants or animals whose dead touched me.
*Lady; Sansa's direwolf
Robb Stark was an Oathbreaker who got what he deserved, and he was also responsible for the death of Grey Wind. He kills a Lord, bannerman and kin because of honor, and then he breaks his own oath because he fell in love...neither principles, nor brains. That is why - for example - I couldn't care less for the Red Wedding.
Joffrey and Ramsay were awesome, but not "touching", I don't miss them, or regret their death.
The same goes for characters like Ned Stark (too naive) or Tywin Lannister (no principles => whoring around while attacking Tyrion for it, and when you play the Game of Thrones...). In general I don't mourn the death of "players".
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 7, 2019 18:59:49 GMT
Who wouldn't want to kick Cersei's ass for what she's done?
Cersei has been defending herself all along. Welcome to the shit pile, turd. May you choke in it. What. The. Fuck?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 7, 2019 19:16:06 GMT
It's interesting to think that the "mad blood" in her will come out due to so many events going the wrong way lately. the death of Misandei and the dragons could do it.
However, IMO, SO FAR I think her reactions to things have been kind've reasonable reactions. Who wouldn't want to kick Cersei's ass for what she's done? The only thing Dany's done that I thought was "what?!" was when she gave Jon an ultimatum last night.
However, I don't see why the idea of them getting married and just being king and queen together is a problem. Solves everything. We're already past the problem of her being his aunt (EEEWWWWW!!!). They've already done "the deed", and everyone knows it, so whats the big deal now? Just marry and no problem. It is a problem when the person you are married to A is your aunt and B you dont love her , jon does NOT love dany , and C like varys very well pointed out SHE WANTS TO BE IN CHARGE and it will be hard if she is married to jon because they will love him MORE than her follow her more than her she wont have much authority and that is what dany wants more than anything to be in POWER and at this point as much as she proclaims she loves jon i doubt it , she knows she is being manipulated by him as she told sansa , and didnt mind IT she is doing her share of manipulation as well as we all saw on last nights episode , Jon all his life was known as a bastard a snow he was shunned by many even by his own "stepmother" was never shown affection or love because of what he was all he wanted to know was who was his mother , so finally after 8 long years he finds out who his parents are and he is no bastard only to have the one person who is related to him by his father side commands him NOT to reveal it that is COLD that is a BITCHY THING TO DO to someone . I agree somewhat with the notion that Jon does not love Dany any longer. That is his aunt after all. So while it was silly for Dany to ask him to forget that, it should be come apparently obvious that he doesn’t want the burden of being husband to the queen. He doesn’t even want to live in Westeros. That said, he’s still very much a bastard until they can explain how he isn’t. Because whacky maester marrying whoever he wants does not cut it. That has nothing to do with pushing his claim to the throne because people want who they want. I just can’t figure out why they would want Jon. He’s such a bad leader.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 7, 2019 19:19:07 GMT
the writer himself not so may words has confirmed dany going dark many believe like Leo she has always been like that and if you look through her actions through the seasons you can see what he is talking about dany is used to winning a lot she was never challenged in council meetings or questioned she disciplines by burning if you dont agree with her thats not good rulling , she demands respect without working for it because she has dragons , she used to rule in lands were slavery was common and she was seen upon a saviour and its easy for fans to cheer when someone executes someone who abuses children or does bad stuff but it was shown over and over she didnt know how to rule she had other people clean up her messes her only power is she cant burn even though in the books she can and her three dragons without her dragons it is over her mental state of mind is not one you want for a ruler what was it tywin lannister used to say "Any man who must say, "I am the King", is no true king. ..." dany repeatedly says she is queen over and over and over.. If you don't mind me ask you this, How do you honestly expect and think we will actually see Daenerys Targaryen really turn evil (I mean like if happens, then if they do it in a way that will just leave absolutely no more doubt about it at all) ?
Supposedly, There are Spoilers out somewhere that already reveal that. I have no idea where those supposed Spoilers are though because I myself would love to see them.
If there is anybody here who has already seen them then if you can, please post a clickable link to where I (and anybody else here who would be interested in seeing them) can see them.
anthony i really dont know anything about spoilers i dont even read them i dont care much about them because even when something turns out to be true there are a lot of things that occur within the episode that spoilers didnt cover and they always get things wrong not in order etc... just my personal opinion and what i think D&D may do the way viewers will see dany go mad and i say this to the ones who dont believe it until they see it or who didnt think what dany was doing up to now was evil or bad, will be through the eyes and POV of other characters like closest to her like Tyrion , varys,possibly jon if he wakes up ,varys already has started noticing her reactions , if you noticed last weeks episode when the feast was going on dany was seated alone while she was observing others having fun she saw the lannister brothers laughing having fun , jon with his squad and family , you can see she was observing all this with a sad face and wondering who is on her side varys noticed that and i think her reactions to things will be much darker in the next episode and tyrion closest to her will see it first hand ,it will be worse now that she lost another dragon and her best friend , of course dany fans will be pissed and will hate on tyrion , varys , jon for turning on dany , personally i for once will feel vindication because i have been attacked for having a dark dany theory and now that is here as you can see most of them are keeping mum about it . Let me ask you this if dany in next weeks episode takes her remaining dragon and starts burning people including children to get revenge wouldn't that be an evil or bad act? i can understand if she wants revenge but to what cost? she said there is no cost that is an evil thing to say, how are these people supposed to love and accept her if she will burn their children?? thats not the way to do it but i think dany is her worst enemy and the more she will be thinking what happened to her dragons and closest to her she will go in a very dark place.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 7, 2019 19:23:16 GMT
*MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR THE REST OF SEASON 8!*
i had to click it out of curiosity and curiosity is what killed the cat and now im dead just joking , could be, but the jon and bran spoiler i dont get at all and i mean at all these spoilers were from same guy who guessed the ones from last week?? why would jon take the black , he killed other people too in the past and he left the nights watch i do not think there is one any more and bran king? bran doesnt even want to be lord i will be so surprised if this happens
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 7, 2019 19:31:49 GMT
i had to click it out of curiosity and curiosity is what killed the cat and now im dead just joking , could be, but the jon and bran spoiler i dont get at all and i mean at all these spoilers were from same guy who guessed the ones from last week?? why would jon take the black , he killed other people too in the past and he left the nights watch i do not think there is one any more and bran king? bran doesnt even want to be lord i will be so surprised if this happens i don't know if they are real or not, like you said many of them sound ridiculous
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Post by Marendil on May 7, 2019 19:35:21 GMT
*MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR THE REST OF SEASON 8!*
What's the source for this? When was it originally posted? I've not seen this, but I gather it's what another poster was referring to when messaging me.
This conflicts with the Frikidoctor leak I was dubious about, and he had a good track record.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 7, 2019 19:37:14 GMT
i had to click it out of curiosity and curiosity is what killed the cat and now im dead just joking , could be, but the jon and bran spoiler i dont get at all and i mean at all these spoilers were from same guy who guessed the ones from last week?? why would jon take the black , he killed other people too in the past and he left the nights watch i do not think there is one any more and bran king? bran doesnt even want to be lord i will be so surprised if this happens i don't know if they are real or not, like you said many of them sound ridiculous i do not know if this means anything but kit harington said in an interview i watched the ending was disappointing and epic , then he kind joked just kidding aboutt the disappointing part but he just looks like someone who didnt like the ending....he may be trolling us ..
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 7, 2019 19:37:53 GMT
What's the source for this? i don't know, i took it from another message board
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 7, 2019 20:13:52 GMT
I thought Lord of the Red Keep was an isolated whacko here in his Cersei defending, but Dany is rushing her tired people into battle, making thinly veiled threats to her own allies, and is about to light up the citizens of KL - children included, and still has people defending her. What a crazy board. Read the thread above. You are wrong. By that, do you mean your previous post? *Reads* Holy moley, Dany's friend died? I must have missed that! You're right, burn them all! Burn them all! Burn them all!
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 7, 2019 20:15:36 GMT
It is a problem when the person you are married to A is your aunt and B you dont love her , jon does NOT love dany , and C like varys very well pointed out SHE WANTS TO BE IN CHARGE and it will be hard if she is married to jon because they will love him MORE than her follow her more than her she wont have much authority and that is what dany wants more than anything to be in POWER and at this point as much as she proclaims she loves jon i doubt it , she knows she is being manipulated by him as she told sansa , and didnt mind IT she is doing her share of manipulation as well as we all saw on last nights episode , Jon all his life was known as a bastard a snow he was shunned by many even by his own "stepmother" was never shown affection or love because of what he was all he wanted to know was who was his mother , so finally after 8 long years he finds out who his parents are and he is no bastard only to have the one person who is related to him by his father side commands him NOT to reveal it that is COLD that is a BITCHY THING TO DO to someone . I agree somewhat with the notion that Jon does not love Dany any longer. That is his aunt after all. So while it was silly for Dany to ask him to forget that, it should be come apparently obvious that he doesn’t want the burden of being husband to the queen. He doesn’t even want to live in Westeros. That said, he’s still very much a bastard until they can explain how he isn’t. Because whacky maester marrying whoever he wants does not cut it. That has nothing to do with pushing his claim to the throne because people want who they want. I just can’t figure out why they would want Jon. He’s such a bad leader. cool j wait a second we all have favorites on this show but honestly to say that jon is a bad leader compared to who? compare to dany he is heaps better leader than her dany sits on a dragon and sceams BURN THEM ALL ( dracarys) that is what her father was screaming from his iron chair , i mean seriusly please take a look at this explains who dany is and who she was even seasons back from seaosn 5 , i think she would have burned KL way before if it wasnt for tyrion or varys she was always like that. Daenerys Targaryen: One day your great city will return to the dirt as well. Hizdahr zo Loraq: At your command? Daenerys Targaryen: If need be. Hizdahr zo Loraq: And how many people will die to make this happen? Daenerys Targaryen: If it comes to that, they will have died for a good reason. Hizdahr zo Loraq: [indicates the fighters in the pit] Those men think they’re dying for a good reason. Daenerys Targaryen: Someone else’s reason. Hizdahr zo Loraq: So your reasons are true and theirs are false? They don’t know their own minds but you do? Daenerys Targaryen: *says nothing*
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 7, 2019 20:25:04 GMT
I agree somewhat with the notion that Jon does not love Dany any longer. That is his aunt after all. So while it was silly for Dany to ask him to forget that, it should be come apparently obvious that he doesn’t want the burden of being husband to the queen. He doesn’t even want to live in Westeros. That said, he’s still very much a bastard until they can explain how he isn’t. Because whacky maester marrying whoever he wants does not cut it. That has nothing to do with pushing his claim to the throne because people want who they want. I just can’t figure out why they would want Jon. He’s such a bad leader. cool j wait a second we all have favorites on this show but honestly to say that jon is a bad leader compared to who? compare to dany he is heaps better leader than her dany sits on a dragon and sceams BURN THEM ALL ( dracarys) that is what her father was screaming from his iron chair , i mean seriusly please take a look at this explains who dany is and who she was even seasons back from seaosn 5 , i think she would have burned KL way before if it wasnt for tyrion or varys she was always like that. Daenerys Targaryen: One day your great city will return to the dirt as well. Hizdahr zo Loraq: At your command? Daenerys Targaryen: If need be. Hizdahr zo Loraq: And how many people will die to make this happen? Daenerys Targaryen: If it comes to that, they will have died for a good reason. Hizdahr zo Loraq: [indicates the fighters in the pit] Those men think they’re dying for a good reason. Daenerys Targaryen: Someone else’s reason. Hizdahr zo Loraq: So your reasons are true and theirs are false? They don’t know their own minds but you do? Daenerys Targaryen: *says nothing* [Jonnis a horrible leader that apparently has magical charisma. Charisma goes a long way to masking poor leadership skills. I’m trying to remember one time his plans succeeded without surprise help. I guess he figured out Valyrian Steel could kill a Walker. I like Jon just fine but there’s a lot of people I like that shouldn’t be king. At least with Dany she is often the solution to a problem.
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Post by Marendil on May 7, 2019 20:28:23 GMT
Read the thread above. You are wrong. By that, do you mean your previous post? *Reads* Holy moley, Dany's friend died? I must have missed that! You're right, burn them all! Burn them all! Burn them all! What is so merciful about starving a city into rebellion? How is that likely to turn out for the citizens?
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 7, 2019 20:30:55 GMT
cool j wait a second we all have favorites on this show but honestly to say that jon is a bad leader compared to who? compare to dany he is heaps better leader than her dany sits on a dragon and sceams BURN THEM ALL ( dracarys) that is what her father was screaming from his iron chair , i mean seriusly please take a look at this explains who dany is and who she was even seasons back from seaosn 5 , i think she would have burned KL way before if it wasnt for tyrion or varys she was always like that. Daenerys Targaryen: One day your great city will return to the dirt as well. Hizdahr zo Loraq: At your command? Daenerys Targaryen: If need be. Hizdahr zo Loraq: And how many people will die to make this happen? Daenerys Targaryen: If it comes to that, they will have died for a good reason. Hizdahr zo Loraq: [indicates the fighters in the pit] Those men think they’re dying for a good reason. Daenerys Targaryen: Someone else’s reason. Hizdahr zo Loraq: So your reasons are true and theirs are false? They don’t know their own minds but you do? Daenerys Targaryen: *says nothing* [Jonnis a horrible leader that apparently has magical charisma. Charisma goes a long way to masking poor leadership skills. I’m trying to remember one time his plans succeeded without surprise help. I guess he figured out Valyrian Steel could kill a Walker. I like Jon just fine but there’s a lot of people I like that shouldn’t be king. At least with Dany she is often the solution to a problem. im not saying jon hasnt made mistakes but at least his intentions are good , how is dany solution to the problem? by burning ? and what will she do when she doesnt have the dragons any longer? before their birth she had khal to kill for her and then the dragons , you guys seem to be more experts at wars and battles than i am so im not going to sit here and argue about battles and strategies but i do know what im watching on the show and if dany didnt have dragons no one would follow her, no one , she is not a solution to a problem she is the problem
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 7, 2019 20:45:55 GMT
[Jonnis a horrible leader that apparently has magical charisma. Charisma goes a long way to masking poor leadership skills. I’m trying to remember one time his plans succeeded without surprise help. I guess he figured out Valyrian Steel could kill a Walker. I like Jon just fine but there’s a lot of people I like that shouldn’t be king. At least with Dany she is often the solution to a problem. im not saying jon hasnt made mistakes but at least his intentions are good , how is dany solution to the problem? by burning ? and what will she do when she doesnt have the dragons any longer? before their birth she had khal to kill for her and then the dragons , you guys seem to be more experts at wars and battles than i am so im not going to sit here and argue about battles and strategies but i do know what im watching on the show and if dany didnt have dragons no one would follow her, no one , she is not a solution to a problem she is the problem I didn’t say she was THE solution to THE problem but she can more often than not get out of her own jams. Her mistakes now are tied to doing things against her better judgement on the advice of advisors. Jon’s mistakes are tied to his decisions and ignoring sound advice. I still don’t know why people make a distinction regarding how someone dies. It doesn’t matter if someone is burned to death or stabbed or poisoned.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 7, 2019 20:59:16 GMT
im not saying jon hasnt made mistakes but at least his intentions are good , how is dany solution to the problem? by burning ? and what will she do when she doesnt have the dragons any longer? before their birth she had khal to kill for her and then the dragons , you guys seem to be more experts at wars and battles than i am so im not going to sit here and argue about battles and strategies but i do know what im watching on the show and if dany didnt have dragons no one would follow her, no one , she is not a solution to a problem she is the problem I didn’t say she was THE solution to THE problem but she can more often than not get out of her own jams. Her mistakes now are tied to doing things against her better judgement on the advice of advisors. Jon’s mistakes are tied to his decisions and ignoring sound advice. I still don’t know why people make a distinction regarding how someone dies. It doesn’t matter if someone is burned to death or stabbed or poisoned. hello????it does make a difference sometimes you can survive a stab wound just look at jon snow !! or jon bobbit but burned alive??? no im sorry no chance so now its her advisors fault ...well sansa advised her to rest her forces but she didnt listen she didnt go against her better judgment and how did that work out for her? a loss of a dragon and her BFF
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 7, 2019 21:59:34 GMT
I didn’t say she was THE solution to THE problem but she can more often than not get out of her own jams. Her mistakes now are tied to doing things against her better judgement on the advice of advisors. Jon’s mistakes are tied to his decisions and ignoring sound advice. I still don’t know why people make a distinction regarding how someone dies. It doesn’t matter if someone is burned to death or stabbed or poisoned. hello????it does make a difference sometimes you can survive a stab wound just look at jon snow !! or jon bobbit but burned alive??? no im sorry no chance so now its her advisors fault ...well sansa advised her to rest her forces but she didnt listen she didnt go against her better judgment and how did that work out for her? a loss of a dragon and her BFF being burned alive by a dragon is not a long process. Sansa not only told her to rest the troops but gave an indeterminate date which was easily translateabke to not wanting to help her since she doesn’t. And yes Tyrion is an idiot as the Hand and Varys is untrustworthy. They don’t want the war that all other armies have waged.
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Post by anthonyrocks on May 7, 2019 23:01:40 GMT
*MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR THE REST OF SEASON 8!*
WOW!
If those are True then Dany is gonna turn Bloodthirsty!
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 8, 2019 3:29:49 GMT
i had to click it out of curiosity and curiosity is what killed the cat and now im dead just joking , could be, but the jon and bran spoiler i dont get at all and i mean at all these spoilers were from same guy who guessed the ones from last week?? why would jon take the black , he killed other people too in the past and he left the nights watch i do not think there is one any more and bran king? bran doesnt even want to be lord i will be so surprised if this happens The last two points are complete nonsense. Bran chosen as king is a completely random thing and there is no more need for a Night's Watch, so no one can take the black. Someone somewhere is trying to be interesting.
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