Jesus Christ and the American soldier

I've never asked either one to die for me.

I'm questioning the motives behind whenever America invades a foreign country. 

Like Iraq. 
We didn't invade until two oil men became president. Dumbya and Prick Cheney. 
And then when we packed up and left and when ISIS came in and was gaining control of Iraq, we didn't get re-involved, this time with bombings, until ISIS was threatening a town which was a major oil supplier or the HQ for oil companies. 

Before all that, we knew how Hussein mis-treated, tortured and killed the citizens and we just didn't give a shit at all. 
If we did, then we would have either gone in there earlier or finished the job of the first war. 

We support brutal dictators. Manipulate elections and do other things to put them in charge. 
But once they thumb their nose at America or we want more, then we invade. 
Never has anything to do with our freedoms and never did. 

Getting in bed with the devil is a story older than the US. Britain, France, Germany, Russia, Spain, Portugal, there can't be many a power/empire who've made war for profit, power, and using allies of an unsavoury nature to achieve goals, sphere of influence,etc

I'm only looking at America. 
No doubt other countries that take part in wars also have their hands as bloody as the American soldiers and military when it comes to civilian deaths. 
I am a conscientious objector, never even registered for the draft, fuck it, and a pacifist.
So I am against all wars all the time.
 



Not really. 
Does this look like it is "better disciplined" to you? 

On Monday, April 5, Wikileaks.org posted video footage from Iraq, taken from a US military Apache helicopter in July 2007 as soldiers aboard it killed 12 people and wounded two children. The dead included two employees of the Reuters news agency: photographer Namir Noor-Eldeen and driver Saeed Chmagh.
The US military confirmed the authenticity of the video.
The footage clearly shows an unprovoked slaughter, and is shocking to watch whilst listening to the casual conversation of the soldiers in the background.
As disturbing as the video is, this type of behavior by US soldiers in Iraq is not uncommon.
Truthout has spoken with several soldiers who shared equally horrific stories of the slaughtering of innocent Iraqis by US occupation forces.
"I remember one woman walking by," said Jason Washburn, a corporal in the US Marines who served three tours in Iraq. He told the audience at the Winter Soldier hearings that took place March 13-16, 2008, in Silver Spring, Maryland, "She was carrying a huge bag, and she looked like she was heading toward us, so we lit her up with the Mark 19, which is an automatic grenade launcher, and when the dust settled, we realized that the bag was full of groceries. She had been trying to bring us food and we blew her to pieces."

Washburn testified on a panel that discussed the rules of engagement (ROE) in Iraq, and how lax they were, to the point of being virtually nonexistent.
"During the course of my three tours, the rules of engagement changed a lot," Washburn's testimony continued, "The higher the threat the more viciously we were permitted and expected to respond. Something else we were encouraged to do, almost with a wink and nudge, was to carry 'drop weapons', or by my third tour, 'drop shovels'. We would carry these weapons or shovels with us because if we accidentally shot a civilian, we could just toss the weapon on the body, and make them look like an insurgent."
Hart Viges, a member of the 82nd Airborne Division of the Army who served one year in Iraq, told of taking orders over the radio.
"One time they said to fire on all taxicabs because the enemy was using them for transportation.... One of the snipers replied back, 'Excuse me? Did I hear that right? Fire on all taxicabs?' The lieutenant colonel responded, 'You heard me, trooper, fire on all taxicabs.' After that, the town lit up, with all the units firing on cars. This was my first experience with war, and that kind of set the tone for the rest of the deployment."
Vincent Emanuele, a Marine rifleman who spent a year in the al-Qaim area of Iraq near the Syrian border, told of emptying magazines of bullets into the city without identifying targets, running over corpses with Humvees and stopping to take "trophy" photos of bodies.
"An act that took place quite often in Iraq was taking pot shots at cars that drove by," he said, "This was not an isolated incident, and it took place for most of our eight-month deployment."

truth-out.org/archive/component/k2/item/88912:iraq-war-vet-we-were-told-to-just-shoot-people-and-the-officers-would-take-care-of-us


US Army 'Kill Team' in Afghanistan Posed for Photos of Murdered Civilians

March 21, 2011 "The Guardian" -- Commanders in Afghanistan are bracing themselves for possible riots and public fury triggered by the publication of "trophy" photographs of US soldiers posing with the dead bodies of defenceless Afghan civilians they killed.

Senior officials at Nato's International Security Assistance Force in Kabul have compared the pictures published by the German news weekly Der Spiegel to the images of US soldiers abusing prisoners in Abu Ghraib in Iraq which sparked waves of anti-US protests around the world.

They fear that the pictures could be even more damaging as they show the aftermath of the deliberate murders of Afghan civilians by a rogue US Stryker tank unit that operated in the southern province of Kandahar last year.


If you dare, go here to see the photos: 


www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27738.htm


U.S. military announces that civilian casualties in Iraq and Syria are more than double previous estimate

The number of civilians killed by U.S. airstrikes in Iraq and Syria is more than double the previous estimate, U.S. Central Command said on Wednesday, after reexamining its air campaign based on allegations from activist groups.

The announcement of 64 additional deaths brings the total civilian death toll in U.S. air attacks to 119 since the campaign against the Islamic State began in 2014, Centcom said. The command, responsible for U.S. military operations in the Middle East, is investigating other allegations.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/11/09/u-s-military-announces-that-civilian-casualties-in-iraq-and-syria-are-more-than-double-previous-estimate/?utm_term=.36240c496aa7

Got the idea of how wrong you are yet or shall I dig up some more examples





But they still managed to kick out our invading asses with little more than sticks and stones. 
Good on them for getting us the fuck out where we didn't belong. 

See? 
It was all bullshit with that communism crap and domino theory which just turned out to be propaganda and a lie to go to war. 
Doesn't matter that it happened over there after all. 

Me neither. 

Before you die for someone, it might be a good idea to ask first to see if you really need to die.