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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 22, 2019 16:33:40 GMT
Hawkeye works with the Avengers, a peacekeeping force recognize by the National Security Council i.e. not a vigilante.
No, Hawkeye is a paid assassin working for a covert agency (SHIELD). And Hawkeye is a rip-off of Arrow. Why are you talking about Arrow? This is a Marvel board.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 22, 2019 17:04:21 GMT
No, Hawkeye is a paid assassin working for a covert agency (SHIELD). And Hawkeye is a rip-off of Arrow. Why are you talking about Arrow? Because the Hawkeye series sounds like a rip-off of Arrow.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 22, 2019 17:07:58 GMT
Why are you talking about Arrow? Because the Hawkeye series sounds like a rip-off of Arrow. How?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 22, 2019 17:13:31 GMT
Hawkeye show summary:
"Series based on the Marvel Comics superhero Hawkeye, centering on the adventures of Young Avenger, Kate Bishop, who took on the role after the original Avenger, Clint Barton."
Arrow show summary:
"Spoiled billionaire playboy Oliver Queen is missing and presumed dead when his yacht is lost at sea. He returns five years later a changed man, determined to clean up the city as a hooded vigilante armed with a bow."
They sound nothing alike
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 22, 2019 17:28:47 GMT
Why are you talking about Arrow? Because the Hawkeye series sounds like a rip-off of Arrow. No it doesn't. Why are you comparing it to Arrow, this is the MCU board. Keep DC conversations on the DC board, please.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 22, 2019 17:29:05 GMT
Because the Hawkeye series sounds like a rip-off of Arrow. How? Arrow is about a vigilante who is skilled with a bow and arrow and uses a variety of trick arrows. Hawkeye sounds like it's about a vigilante who is skilled with a bow and arrow and uses a variety of trick arrows. That doesn't sound like a rip-off to you?
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Post by poutinep on Jul 22, 2019 17:30:04 GMT
Because the Hawkeye series sounds like a rip-off of Arrow. How? A guy uses a bow to fight crime man they're literally exactly the same!!!!!!!
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jul 22, 2019 17:46:33 GMT
Arrow is about a vigilante who is skilled with a bow and arrow and uses a variety of trick arrows. Hawkeye sounds like it's about a vigilante who is skilled with a bow and arrow and uses a variety of trick arrows. That doesn't sound like a rip-off to you? This is the MCU board, and this thread is about Marvel Phase 4. Why do you DC fans always bring up DC into MCU discussions? Are you trying to start an MCU vs DC war?
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Post by poutinep on Jul 22, 2019 18:06:49 GMT
Arrow is about a vigilante who is skilled with a bow and arrow and uses a variety of trick arrows. Hawkeye sounds like it's about a vigilante who is skilled with a bow and arrow and uses a variety of trick arrows. That doesn't sound like a rip-off to you? You're vaguely describing the characters, not their shows LOL fail.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 22, 2019 18:11:20 GMT
Arrow is about a vigilante who is skilled with a bow and arrow and uses a variety of trick arrows. Hawkeye sounds like it's about a vigilante who is skilled with a bow and arrow and uses a variety of trick arrows. That doesn't sound like a rip-off to you? Hawkeye show summary: "Series based on the Marvel Comics superhero Hawkeye, centering on the adventures of Young Avenger, Kate Bishop, who took on the role after the original Avenger, Clint Barton." Arrow show summary: "Spoiled billionaire playboy Oliver Queen is missing and presumed dead when his yacht is lost at sea. He returns five years later a changed man, determined to clean up the city as a hooded vigilante armed with a bow." They sound nothing alike
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Post by hobowar on Jul 22, 2019 21:01:42 GMT
Looks like Fox were involved with the production of this one.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 24, 2019 20:59:01 GMT
To recap Black Widow - May 1, 2020 The Eternals - November 6, 2020 The Falcon and Winter Soldier - Fall 2020 Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings - February 12, 2021 WandaVision - Spring 2021 Loki - Spring 2021 Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - May 7, 2021 What If... - Summer 2021 Thor: Love and Thunder - November 5,2021 Hawkeye - Fall 2021 Blade - TBD The Wanda&Vision series is apparently supposed to tie in with DS2. Not sure if they’ll be able to pull that off without confusing people who only follow the movies, but I guess Marvel has earned enough trust to pull something like that off at this point. Also, I see they’re officially giving Shane Black the finger with the whole “Ten Rings” thing. The WandaVision series will tie into DS2 like Agents of SHIELD tied into Avengers: Age of Ultron ie you won’t need to watch it and you won’t miss anything.
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Post by merh on Jul 31, 2019 0:39:48 GMT
So 5 yrs. Hell So Supes was last in everyone's consciousness through Smallville or the Brandon Routh epic. Even more, the superhero landscape was sparse There was The Spirit (2008), Dark Knight (2008), Hellboy II (2008), Watchman (2009), Scott Pilgrim (2010), Punisher: War Zone (2008), The Losers (2010), Kick-Ass (2010), Green Lantern (2011). Spidey 3 was 2007, the reboot was 2012. XMEN Last Stand was 2006. XMEN Origins: Wolverine was 2009. So the general public largely was unaware of DC or Marvel vs stuff they licensed out. Marvel not only was establishing their cinematic universe, they were branding THEIR brand vs the other studios. Their big guns were licensed out to others & largely run inti the ground so they were stuck with a bunch of characters the general public didn't know. Branding Captain America the First Avenger made the general public aware this was one of their heroes who was going to appear in Avengers & drew their eyes to a hero most did not know. Some older people might remember him from WWII, but otherwise he is pretty unknown. Comic book fans are pretty much it. Captain America was "unknown"? That's just dumb. He's been around for 80 years. Anyone who is vaguely aware of super heroes knew who Captain America is. Did I not say WWII survivors & comic fans? But comic book fans were all that huge, were they? For a movie to break BIG, it has to pic up the general public. The masses The masses were pretty unaware of Captain America in 2010. He had nowhere near the general public awareness of Bats or Supes, now did he?
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Post by merh on Jul 31, 2019 0:46:04 GMT
So 5 yrs. Hell So Supes was last in everyone's consciousness through Smallville or the Brandon Routh epic. Even more, the superhero landscape was sparse There was The Spirit (2008), Dark Knight (2008), Hellboy II (2008), Watchman (2009), Scott Pilgrim (2010), Punisher: War Zone (2008), The Losers (2010), Kick-Ass (2010), Green Lantern (2011). Spidey 3 was 2007, the reboot was 2012. XMEN Last Stand was 2006. XMEN Origins: Wolverine was 2009. So the general public largely was unaware of DC or Marvel vs stuff they licensed out. Marvel not only was establishing their cinematic universe, they were branding THEIR brand vs the other studios. Their big guns were licensed out to others & largely run inti the ground so they were stuck with a bunch of characters the general public didn't know. Branding Captain America the First Avenger made the general public aware this was one of their heroes who was going to appear in Avengers & drew their eyes to a hero most did not know. Some older people might remember him from WWII, but otherwise he is pretty unknown. Comic book fans are pretty much it. I’m sorry I didn’t understand the part about TFA and DOJ being 5 years apart? But yeah I understand WHY they called it The First Avenger, but it doesn’t make it sound any less silly. Plus, is he even The First Avenger? Maybe the first Earth born Avenger, born about 80 years before they were even a thought. Thor was born long before he was.. Tony, Natasha, and Hawkeye all knew about The Avengers initiative before Cap, AND Captain Marvel was the reason they were formed. The title is arguably misleading. "You were the world's first superhero" Forget that line in Avengers? Thor is a god. They were worshipped as gods, not heroes
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Aug 1, 2019 12:49:02 GMT
I’m sorry I didn’t understand the part about TFA and DOJ being 5 years apart? But yeah I understand WHY they called it The First Avenger, but it doesn’t make it sound any less silly. Plus, is he even The First Avenger? Maybe the first Earth born Avenger, born about 80 years before they were even a thought. Thor was born long before he was.. Tony, Natasha, and Hawkeye all knew about The Avengers initiative before Cap, AND Captain Marvel was the reason they were formed. The title is arguably misleading. "You were the world's first superhero" Forget that line in Avengers? Thor is a god. They were worshipped as gods, not heroes But the movie isn’t “Captain America: The First Superhero” it’s called “The First Avenger”. And in the context of the Avengers, he wouldn’t technically be the first. Thor was around much longer and numerous other heroes knew about the Avengers Initiative before Cap was even brought on board. He’s definitely the lead Avenger.. I just don’t believe he would be considered the first. Plus as you said that Thor was a God, Cap was technically considered a soldier back in those days. He performed missions for the military. Iron Man would more than likely be considered the first superhero considering his public persona and the fact that he didn’t take orders from anybody and worked entirely on his own at first. I mean it’s fine... it doesn’t make the movie any less great. It just has a debatably false title.
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