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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 30, 2019 14:34:58 GMT
Montana played 2 seasons for Marty Schottenheimer (who doesn't run the West Coast offense) and took the Chiefs to the playoffs both years and to the AFC Championship Game. Way to go, Joe. He also spent the majority and prime of his career under Walsh. Montana also won a Super Bowl while playing for George Siefert.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Oct 30, 2019 14:43:35 GMT
Way to go, Joe. He also spent the majority and prime of his career under Walsh. Montana also won a Super Bowl while playing for George Siefert. You mean the George Seifert who also ran the West Coast Offense?
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 30, 2019 15:10:23 GMT
Just because you've jerked off so much you can finish your needle in 90 seconds doesn't mean an old fat guy in a bathroom can do what would need to have been done. Can you even picture it? This fat guy dumping all the footballs on a small bathroom floor and jumping down to his hands and knees? This unathletic guy fumbling around looking for the air hole of 12 different balls? Stopping each time to take that ball and put it in a bag. And Jim "The Deflator' McNally has done it so many times that he's gotten good at it and can do it in 90 seconds. Did you ever see The Founder? The 1st time Ray Kroc ordered a burger at the McDonald's brothers restaurant, he was surprised that his order came in 2 minutes. He couldn't believe they could cook and put together the burger that quickly. Then the McDonald's brothers showed him how they did it. The employees had done it so many times that they had gotten good at it and could put out an order of burgers in 2 minutes or less. Similarly, Jim "The Deflator" McNally had deflated footballs for Brady to use in games many, many times (which is why Jim "The Deflator" McNally calls himself "The Deflator") so he had gotten good at it and could easily deflate a dozen footballs in 90 seconds. When people do the same job over and over and over again many, many times, they tend to become better at it.It's far more likely than not that he went to take a piss before going to stand on a sideline for an hour and a half. Jim "The Deflator" McNally had access to the restrooms in the Officials Locker Room Area and could've left the footballs in the Officials Locker Room Area while he used the restrooms in the Officials Locker Room Area BEFORE going out to the field. But Jim "The Deflator" McNally took the bag of footballs out of the Officials Locker Room Area WITHOUT authorization from the refs and WITHOUT notifying the refs and took the bag of footballs into the locked restroom where he deflated the footballs. Nope. I don't buy it. You can keep giving examples of people who do the same thing for 40 hours a week and try to say that someone could be as good as them doing it 90 seconds a week. I don't buy it. Not to mention there is no need to go fast. According to you, he had done it hundreds of times. Never been caught. Why would he fell the need to go as fast as a McDonald's employee? Doesn't add up.
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 30, 2019 15:11:52 GMT
The Patriots haven't seen an uptick in fumbles the past 5 years. Brady's stats haven't tumbled (averaging more yards per game and a better completion percentage the past 5 years than the 5 years previous to deflategate). Because they're still cheating. Only in your dysfunctional mind.
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Post by damngumby on Oct 30, 2019 21:08:43 GMT
Nope. I don't buy it. You can keep giving examples of people who do the same thing for 40 hours a week and try to say that someone could be as good as them doing it 90 seconds a week. I don't buy it. Not to mention there is no need to go fast. According to you, he had done it hundreds of times. Never been caught. Why would he fell the need to go as fast as a McDonald's employee? Doesn't add up. Oh jeez ... that dcfan never misses an opportunity to beclown himself. Jim McNally - football deflation expert. Highly experienced. Couldn't even deflate each football to the same pressure. Instead of taking his time and carefully deflating the footballs to Brady's exact specifications, he ducks into a bathroom and expels a random amount of air from each ball in a needlessly frantic rush, resulting in a wide range of pressures. dcfan's deflategate fairytale just gets dumber and dumber.
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 30, 2019 21:49:30 GMT
Nope. I don't buy it. You can keep giving examples of people who do the same thing for 40 hours a week and try to say that someone could be as good as them doing it 90 seconds a week. I don't buy it. Not to mention there is no need to go fast. According to you, he had done it hundreds of times. Never been caught. Why would he fell the need to go as fast as a McDonald's employee? Doesn't add up. Oh jeez ... that dcfan never misses an opportunity to beclown himself. Jim McNally - football deflation expert. Highly experienced. Couldn't even deflate each football to the same pressure. Instead of taking his time and carefully deflating the footballs to Brady's exact specifications, he ducks into a bathroom and expels a random amount of air from each ball in a needlessly frantic rush, resulting in a wide range of pressures. dcfan's deflategate fairytale just gets dumber and dumber. Yeah. This expert who had done it hundreds of times (for some unknown reason, as no link has ever been made that slightly less inflated footballs - or slightly more inflated footballs for that matter - make a single solitary difference in anything) apparently really didn't know what he was doing. Add to the fact that Brady won 3 superbowls, and 3 superbowl MVPS, before teams started supplying their own 12 footballs, and the fact that Brady's numbers on the whole have been better since deflategate, and the fact that the Patriots team fumbles haven't increased whatsoever since deflategate, plus the fact that the science is sound saying that the refs more likely than not used the logo air gauge, and it all equals one very plain answer: There was no need, no desire, and no reason to attempt to get so good at deflating footballs that you could do it in 90 seconds (yet to be so bad at it that you couldn't be consistent with each ball.) It's been said before, but each quarterback spends time with the balls making sure they are just right. Only inbred mouth breathers would believe a tale that would result in some old fat oaf taking a random amount of air out of them minutes before the game (again, there is no evidence this would help anyone, anywhere, or at any time). It just isn't a thing.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 31, 2019 17:29:03 GMT
Oh jeez ... that dcfan never misses an opportunity to beclown himself. Jim McNally - football deflation expert. Highly experienced. Couldn't even deflate each football to the same pressure. Instead of taking his time and carefully deflating the footballs to Brady's exact specifications, he ducks into a bathroom and expels a random amount of air from each ball in a needlessly frantic rush, resulting in a wide range of pressures. dcfan's deflategate fairytale just gets dumber and dumber. Brady won 3 superbowls, and 3 superbowl MVPS, before teams started supplying their own 12 footballs Won by cheating with SpyGate. Then after the Pats got caught cheating in SpyGate, they couldn't win another Super Bowl, until they cheated again in DeflateGate.
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 31, 2019 22:14:38 GMT
Brady won 3 superbowls, and 3 superbowl MVPS, before teams started supplying their own 12 footballs Won by cheating with SpyGate. Then after the Pats got caught cheating in SpyGate, they couldn't win another Super Bowl, until they cheated again in DeflateGate. Incorrect. Spying on signals was not against the rules. Any help recording signals from a different vantage point gave could have been ascertained from recording signals from the sideline. The angle just made the job easier. For example, if I told you that you had to sweep the parking lot at McDonald's with one of those handheld brooms, you might think "why, what's the difference if I'm allowed to sweep anyway?" Secondly, just because they didn't win for a decade doesn't mean they weren't winners. They were still the winningest team from 2005-2014. They wooped asses more than 75% of the time, and not a single team had more playoff wins. And lastly, no one cheated in deflategate. There is 0 evidence, statistical or otherwise, that under-inflated or over-inflated footballs affect anything at all. It's like if I said I had a rock that keeps polar bears away. Do you see any polar bears around here? Me neither. So either my rock keeps polar bears away, or it was mother fucking nature that deflated those footballs.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 1, 2019 0:38:56 GMT
Won by cheating with SpyGate. Then after the Pats got caught cheating in SpyGate, they couldn't win another Super Bowl, until they cheated again in DeflateGate. Incorrect. Spying on signals was not against the rules. Yes, it was. That's why the Pats were fined and lost draft picks. Any help recording signals from a different vantage point gave could have been ascertained from recording signals from the sideline. Incorrect. The location where the signals are being filmed makes a HUGE difference in what can or can't be seen. Just look at check-swings in baseball. The reason the home plate umpire asks for help from the 1st-base or 3rd-base umpire on check swings is because the home plate umpire's location behind the plate doesn't give him a good enough view to be able to make the call. Similarly, filming opposing teams signals from the sidelines gives better views than filming from the coaches box. That's why the NFL allows filming from the coaches box but not from the sidelines. just because they didn't win for a decade doesn't mean they weren't winners. It does mean that they weren't good enough to be the best and win the championship, until they cheated with DeflateGate. They were still the winningest team from 2005-2014. They wooped asses more than 75% of the time, and not a single team had more playoff wins. But still weren't the best team and still couldn't win a championship, until they cheated with DeflateGate. no one cheated in deflategate. Shady Brady cheated in DeflateGate. There is 0 evidence, statistical or otherwise, that under-inflated or over-inflated footballs affect anything at all. Except for the fact that Shady Brady went almost a decade without winning a Super Bowl, until they cheated with DeflateGate.
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 1, 2019 0:49:03 GMT
Is this REALLY still going? I mean, really?
"Brady cheated!" "No he didn't!" "Yes he did!" "No he didn't!" "Yes he did!" "No he didn't!"
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Post by hehatesshe on Nov 1, 2019 0:55:41 GMT
Incorrect. Spying on signals was not against the rules. Yes, it was. That's why the Pats were fined and lost draft picks. Incorrect. They were fined and lost picks because of where they filmed from, not because they filmed them. Spying on signals is not now nor has it ever been against the rules. Recording signals is not now nor has it ever been against the rules.Any help recording signals from a different vantage point gave could have been ascertained from recording signals from the sideline. Incorrect. The location where the signals are being filmed makes a HUGE difference in what can or can't be seen. Just look at check-swings in baseball. The reason the home plate umpire asks for help from the 1st-base or 3rd-base umpire on check swings is because the home plate umpire's location behind the plate doesn't give him a good enough view to be able to make the call. Similarly, filming opposing teams signals from the sidelines gives better views than filming from the coaches box. That's why the NFL allows filming from the coaches box but not from the sidelines. So it makes it easier. That's what I said, numbnuts. Go get your little broom. You missed a spot.just because they didn't win for a decade doesn't mean they weren't winners. It does mean that they weren't good enough to be the best and win the championship, until they cheated with DeflateGate. Ok, but it doesn't mean they weren't winners. They literally won more games than anyone else. Like...by a lot. This isn't Madden. You can't just load a past save if you don't like the results. No one wins the whole thing every year. Neither Spygate nor Depflategate had any affect on the games played on the field. Spygate didn't because everyone was trying to steal signals. Jimmy Johnson taped signals. And the Patriots have continued to win, and win more than anyone else, even with just taping from the allowed areas. They were still the winningest team from 2005-2014. They wooped asses more than 75% of the time, and not a single team had more playoff wins. But still weren't the best team and still couldn't win a championship, until they cheated with DeflateGate. They were still the winningest team from 2005-2014. They wooped asses more than 75% of the time, and not a single team had more playoff wins. no one cheated in deflategate. Shady Brady cheated in DeflateGate. No, he didn't. Why would he? Deflated footballs don't help anyone or anything, unless you can prove otherwise.There is 0 evidence, statistical or otherwise, that under-inflated or over-inflated footballs affect anything at all. Except for the fact that Shady Brady went almost a decade without winning a Super Bowl, until they cheated with DeflateGate. Now I got ya. You just stated the under-inflated footballs were the sole reason he won in 2014 (even though he won that super bowl with no-doubt-about-it balls (in more way than one). But if that were true, he wouldn't have won in 2016 and 2018. Not if the sole reason was slightly under-inflated footballs, as you claim. So again, there is no proof, and no one has ever tried to prove, that under-inflated footballs help anyone, anything, or at anytime.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Nov 1, 2019 2:00:22 GMT
Is this REALLY still going? I mean, really? "Brady cheated!" "No he didn't!" "Yes he did!" "No he didn't!" "Yes he did!" "No he didn't!" Tom Brady still has more Super Bowl rings than this stupid thread has pages.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 1, 2019 2:09:39 GMT
Yes, it was. That's why the Pats were fined and lost draft picks. Incorrect. They were fined and lost picks because of where they filmed from Which is against the rules and therefore is cheating. Spying on signals is not now nor has it ever been against the rules. Recording signals is not now nor has it ever been against the rules. No one ever said those were against the rules. But filming opponents signals from the sidelines was against the rules. And that's what the Pats did. So the Pats did cheat in SpyGate. Yes, it makes it easier for them to win because they get a HUGE and ILLEGAL advantage over filming from the sidelines while other teams that don't film the sidelines don't get that HUGE and ILLEGAL advantage. it doesn't mean they weren't winners. They literally won more games than anyone else. Like...by a lot. But they couldn't win the most important game of the season for almost a decade, until they cheated with DeflateGate. Neither Spygate nor Depflategate had any affect on the games played on the field. SpyGate and DeflateGate were the reasons the Pats won their Super Bowls. Spygate didn't because everyone was trying to steal signals. Stealing signals isn't against the rules and isn't cheating if you do it following the rules. Filming signals from the opponents sidelines is against the rules and is cheating. Jimmy Johnson taped signals. Which isn't against the rules and isn't cheating if you do it following the rules. They were still the winningest team from 2005-2014. They wooped asses more than 75% of the time, and not a single team had more playoff wins But still not the best team and still couldn't win a championship, until they cheated with DeflateGate. if that were true, he wouldn't have won in 2016 and 2018. It is true. And he won in 2016 and 2018 because he's still cheating. He just hasn't been caught the 3rd time yet. When the Pats won their first 3 Super Bowls by cheating in SpyGate, they hadn't been caught yet so everyone thought they won because they were good. It wasn't until 2007 when the Pats got caught cheating that everyone found out the Pats' first 3 Super Bowl wins weren't because they were good but because they were cheating. Then they went almost a decade without a Super Bowl win. Then they win a Super Bowl with DeflateGate. So it's obvious they're still cheating but just haven't been caught for the 3rd time yet. And like SpyGate, it might be a few years before their current cheating is exposed.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 1, 2019 2:12:10 GMT
Is this REALLY still going? I mean, really? "Brady cheated!" "No he didn't!" "Yes he did!" "No he didn't!" "Yes he did!" "No he didn't!" Don't know why people are still trying to argue that Shady Brady didn't cheat when the US 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals already said that he cheated. "The evidence of ball tampering is compelling." But those same people who still claim that Brady isn't a cheater are probably the same people who still claim that OJ isn't a murderer.
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Post by hehatesshe on Nov 1, 2019 3:18:42 GMT
No one ever said those were against the rules. But filming opponents signals from the sidelines was against the rules. And that's what the Pats did. So the Pats did cheat in SpyGate. DC-idiot replied You literally just said it was. I stopped reading after that contradiction. You fool.
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Post by damngumby on Nov 1, 2019 10:12:43 GMT
dcfan has been clown stomped on all these points more times than I can remember. He never learns. Hence the reputation as the dumbest (and most tiresome) poster on this board. Well earned.
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Post by Winston Wolf on Nov 4, 2019 0:21:09 GMT
So the GOAT only threw for one touchdown today against a mediocre Chargers team.
But he also made the two point conversion himself, so he’s got that going for him, which is nice.
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Post by hehatesshe on Nov 4, 2019 4:30:01 GMT
So the GOAT only threw for one touchdown today against a mediocre Chargers team. But he also made the two point conversion himself, so he’s got that going for him, which is nice. Both Brady and Rodgers lost on the road by more than 2 touchdowns. Although, the Chargers were 3-5 when they woke up this morning.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Nov 4, 2019 4:36:36 GMT
So the GOAT only threw for one touchdown today against a mediocre Chargers team. But he also made the two point conversion himself, so he’s got that going for him, which is nice. He didn't get intercepted in the Chargers game while Tom Shady did.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 10, 2019 18:46:16 GMT
Nope. I don't buy it. You can keep giving examples of people who do the same thing for 40 hours a week and try to say that someone could be as good as them doing it 90 seconds a week. I don't buy it. Not to mention there is no need to go fast. According to you, he had done it hundreds of times. Never been caught. Why would he fell the need to go as fast as a McDonald's employee? Doesn't add up. Oh jeez ... that dcfan never misses an opportunity to beclown himself. Jim McNally - football deflation expert. Highly experienced. Couldn't even deflate each football to the same pressure. Instead of taking his time and carefully deflating the footballs to Brady's exact specifications, he ducks into a bathroom and expels a random amount of air from each ball in a needlessly frantic rush, resulting in a wide range of pressures. If a student copies another student's test answers but still gets a C on the test, that doesn't mean the student didn't cheat. It just means the student didn't do a good job of cheating. If a student plagiarizes a research paper and still gets a C on the assignment, that doesn't mean the student didn't plagiarize. It just means the student didn't do a good job of plagiarizing. Like Shady Brady and the rest of the Patriots, Jim "The Deflator" McNally just got lazy and decided to take a shortcut and not put any effort into doing the job the correct way. That's why there was a range of pressures. But just because Jim "The Deflator" did a lazy job of deflating the footballs for Shady Brady, that doesn't mean Shady Brady didn't cheat and use illegally-deflated footballs.
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