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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 26, 2019 4:43:29 GMT
A Gentler Rod as MARTY on tv in 1953
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Post by bravomailer on Dec 27, 2019 2:04:17 GMT
I saw an interview with him long ago in which he said he was supremely confident he'd win Best Actor for The Pawnbroker and was half out of his seat when the person at the podium said, "And the winner is.........Lee Marvin." He went on to say he was supremely confident he would not win for In The Heat Of The Night.
I really think he should have won for "The Pawnbroker." What a nuanced, heartbreaking performance that was.
I consider his performance in The Pawnbroker as one of the finest in film history. For decades, any mention of the Academy Awards would cause my father to rant about Steiger's loss to Marvin.
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Post by biker1 on Dec 27, 2019 3:51:10 GMT
I really think he should have won for "The Pawnbroker." What a nuanced, heartbreaking performance that was.
I consider his performance in The Pawnbroker as one of the finest in film history. For decades, any mention of the Academy Awards would cause my father to rant about Steiger's loss to Marvin. And a flippin comedy performance, to add insult to injury. Marvin is funny, but come on.... That lengthy spiel on the Jewish experience made by Steiger at one point in the pawnbroker - re. no homeland & becoming merchants etc - is mighty.
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Post by biker1 on Dec 27, 2019 4:11:27 GMT
Rod Steiger is fairly subdued in across the bridge (1957), a British fugitive thriller I watched this year. The synopsis didn't sound that inviting, 'though it had a number of twists and turns to keep it ticking along nicely.
In the early 90s he did one of those trashy 'white picket fence' thrillers, the neighbor (1993). Not so good, but Steiger is an excuse to watch it, playing the deviant title character.
Top 10 pick..
on the waterfront (1954)
in the heat of the night (1967)
the pawnbroker (1964)
doctor zhivago (1965)
the harder they fall (1956)
the big knife (1955)
jubal (1956)
al capone (1959)
the court-martial of billy mitchell (1955)
run of the arrow (1957)
to see..
no way to treat a lady, the mark
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Post by hi224 on Dec 27, 2019 5:10:38 GMT
I consider his performance in The Pawnbroker as one of the finest in film history. For decades, any mention of the Academy Awards would cause my father to rant about Steiger's loss to Marvin. And a flippin comedy performance, to add insult to injury. Marvin is funny, but come on.... That lengthy spiel on the Jewish experience made by Steiger at one point in the pawnbroker - re. no homeland & becoming merchants etc - is mighty. Was Marvin just raved because he was more subversive? is that why he won?.
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Post by biker1 on Dec 27, 2019 5:40:30 GMT
Was Marvin just raved because he was more subversive? is that why he won? don't know that story...someone might.
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Post by hi224 on Dec 27, 2019 5:48:59 GMT
Was Marvin just raved because he was more subversive? is that why he won? don't know that story...someone might. i am just speculating on why the academy might've preferred his performance.
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Post by bravomailer on Dec 27, 2019 6:01:28 GMT
don't know that story...someone might. i am just speculating on why the academy might've preferred his performance. The Pawnbroker and Steiger's performance are great but depressing. That might have deterred Academy voters. Better to go with a funny cowboy.
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Post by OldAussie on Dec 27, 2019 7:08:29 GMT
I haven't read anything about the 1965 best actor oscars but Marvin - who is a very good actor - would have been my number 5 of the 5 nominees.
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Post by hi224 on Dec 27, 2019 17:31:16 GMT
I haven't read anything about the 1965 best actor oscars but Marvin - who is a very good actor - would have been my number 5 of the 5 nominees. whats you're lineup?.
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Post by bravomailer on Dec 27, 2019 18:30:45 GMT
Back in the sixties my neighborhood had a couple store owners (not pawnbrokers) who had the tell-tale tattoos on their forearms.
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Post by teleadm on Dec 27, 2019 19:53:49 GMT
From On the Waterfront 1954 and forward, sadly in later years some bad movies happened too, but he had to live on some kind of salary.
The Harder They Fall 1956
Doctor Zhivago 1965
In the Heat of the Night 1967
Duck, You Sucker! 1971, or whatever it was called
The Amityville Horror 1979
Lion of the Desert 1980 "the man led Italy for many years, so I can't play him as a bofoon".
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Post by OldAussie on Dec 27, 2019 21:40:49 GMT
I haven't read anything about the 1965 best actor oscars but Marvin - who is a very good actor - would have been my number 5 of the 5 nominees. whats you're lineup?. Burton / Steiger - hard to split Werner / Olivier - very close behind Marvin
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Post by biker1 on Dec 27, 2019 22:05:46 GMT
but he had to live on some kind of salary He got flack for his priest performance in the amityville horror (1979), and then bottomed out in the 1980s with the inept american gothic (1987). Mad doctor movie the kindred (1987) was slightly better. A bit sad.
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Post by hi224 on Dec 27, 2019 22:40:20 GMT
Burton / Steiger - hard to split Werner / Olivier - very close behind Marvin same mines: Burton Steiger Olivier Werner Marvin.
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Post by bravomailer on Dec 28, 2019 18:01:06 GMT
A Gentler Rod as MARTY on tv in 1953 Joe Mantell on the left there. He reprised his role in the later movie and delivered the famous line at the end of Chinatown.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 28, 2019 18:10:15 GMT
I'm a big fan. So pleased he was oscared for In the Heat of the Night. After being seemingly miscast in Doctor Zhivago he stole the show. No Way to Treat a Lady is where his supposed hammery is used to great effect. Couldn't agree more about Doctor Zhivago. In a film packed with great performances, he was the best as Komarovsky. Sharif and Christie get all the attention but Steiger shone. Tom Courtney too. I didn't care for Geraldine Chaplin. The vapid way she played Tonya conflicted with the novel. Tonya Gromeko was tough. She survived the chaos and got out of Russia. Geraldine Chaplin just went around with that empty smile of her face like she was stoned.
I still don't know why Zhivago doesn't get the love that Kwai and Lawrence get
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 28, 2019 18:17:56 GMT
I still don't know why Zhivago doesn't get the love that Kwai and Lawrence get Love Story with beautiful settings and gorgeous ladies in pretty costumes in a wartime setting vs Lots more guns and macho bravado and massive quantities of things blowing up in a war time setting. maybe ?
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 28, 2019 18:20:54 GMT
Back in the sixties my neighborhood had a couple store owners (not pawnbrokers) who had the tell-tale tattoos on their forearms. About 10 years ago, there was an elderly man in front of me in a checkout line. I helped him put a heavy bag of potatoes of the conveyor and seen the tattoo on his forearm. I've never experienced a shock like that. My wife said I was pale as a ghost. I wanted to ask him but I couldn't
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 28, 2019 18:25:45 GMT
I still don't know why Zhivago doesn't get the love that Kwai and Lawrence get Love Story with beautiful settings and gorgeous ladies in pretty costumes in a wartime setting vs Lots more guns and macho bravado and massive quantities of things blowing up in a war time setting. maybe ? The aristocracy of pre-Revolution was just like that. They never seen the storm that was on the horizon until it was too late.
Maybe it's because Doctor Zhivago was responsible for me being a classic film fan. I remember seeing it on broadcast TV and thinking "OK, this is the type of movie for me and not Smokey and the Bandit". I started paying attention to great acting, writing, cinematography than fast cars and pretty girls.
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