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Post by Marv on Feb 24, 2020 14:35:53 GMT
The second film is also very good. Many prefer it to the first but I’ve always preferred the continuous storyline the first provides.
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Post by Nora on Feb 24, 2020 14:44:40 GMT
Luca is described as devotedly loyal to Don Corleone. To the point where even Sonny, the Dons son, wouldn’t be able to call off Luca from attacking the Dons enemies. Sonny sent Luca to try and get in with Solotzo but Solotzo saw thru it and killed Luca while he had the chance. and did they see through it because Luca made it seem like he was going to accept (the 50 k seemed like a too low of a price tag) or because he made it seem like he was going to refuse? Or did he not have a chance to survive this from the beginning and no matter what he did they would have killed him? I felt like he was going to refuse and that’s what prompted them to Jill him... but some seem to think he was going to fake accept and the fact he would accept something evaluated at such a low price as the reason they saw through it and killed him...
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 24, 2020 14:49:06 GMT
Not sure about the Luca accepting or not accepting.
Luca worked for the Corleones and was killed when they figured he was a spy.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 24, 2020 14:51:16 GMT
Luca is described as devotedly loyal to Don Corleone. To the point where even Sonny, the Dons son, wouldn’t be able to call off Luca from attacking the Dons enemies. Sonny sent Luca to try and get in with Solotzo but Solotzo saw thru it and killed Luca while he had the chance. and did they see through it because Luca made it seem like he was going to accept (the 50 k seemed like a too low of a price tag) or because he made it seem like he was going to refuse? Or did he not have a chance to survive this from the beginning and no matter what he did they would have killed him? I felt like he was going to refuse and that’s what prompted them to Jill him... but some seem to think he was going to fake accept and the fact he would accept something evaluated at such a low price as the reason they saw through it and killed him... He was definitely pretending. He was totally loyal to Vito. That’s the reason the spent a lot of time on him being so honored to attend the wedding.
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Post by Nora on Feb 24, 2020 14:56:01 GMT
and did they see through it because Luca made it seem like he was going to accept (the 50 k seemed like a too low of a price tag) or because he made it seem like he was going to refuse? Or did he not have a chance to survive this from the beginning and no matter what he did they would have killed him? I felt like he was going to refuse and that’s what prompted them to Jill him... but some seem to think he was going to fake accept and the fact he would accept something evaluated at such a low price as the reason they saw through it and killed him... He was definitely pretending. He was totally loyal to Vito. That’s the reason the spent a lot of time on him being so honored to attend the wedding. I get that part, that he was very loyal and wanted to stay that way but was he 1. Pretending to take the offer or 2. Openly rejecting the offer? Just before they killed him. That’s my question. I felt like he didn’t say “yeah I’ll take it” or indicate he would... but the person who was with me thought that he did (pretend/fake) take it and That’s when they figured out he was setting them up because the money they offered was too low...
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 24, 2020 15:11:06 GMT
He was definitely pretending. He was totally loyal to Vito. That’s the reason the spent a lot of time on him being so honored to attend the wedding. I get that part, that he was very loyal and wanted to stay that way but was he 1. Pretending to take the offer or 2. Openly rejecting the offer? Just before they killed him. That’s my question. I felt like he didn’t say “yeah I’ll take it” or indicate he would... but the person who was with me thought that he did (pretend/fake) take it and That’s when they figured out he was setting them up because the money they offered was too low... As many times as I’ve watched it I can’t remember the actual specific. However the scene wasn’t meant to reflect what Luca would do. We were seeing it as the meeting going successfully and keeping Luca at ease. After all, he was never going to survive the meeting whether he accepted or not.
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Post by Marv on Feb 24, 2020 15:30:58 GMT
Luca is described as devotedly loyal to Don Corleone. To the point where even Sonny, the Dons son, wouldn’t be able to call off Luca from attacking the Dons enemies. Sonny sent Luca to try and get in with Solotzo but Solotzo saw thru it and killed Luca while he had the chance. and did they see through it because Luca made it seem like he was going to accept (the 50 k seemed like a too low of a price tag) or because he made it seem like he was going to refuse? Or did he not have a chance to survive this from the beginning and no matter what he did they would have killed him? I felt like he was going to refuse and that’s what prompted them to Jill him... but some seem to think he was going to fake accept and the fact he would accept something evaluated at such a low price as the reason they saw through it and killed him... They most likely knew Luca would never betray the Don. Solotzo was a pretty smart guy despite claiming not to be clever. Sonny and Luca on the other hand were fairly dim witted. So it kind of makes sense that Solotzo would see right thru Lucas ruse. He probably planned on killing him no matter what.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Feb 24, 2020 17:08:18 GMT
Glad you liked it, Nora. It's my favorite movie of all time.
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Feb 24, 2020 17:20:44 GMT
Look how you massacred my boy! You really do the worst Godfather I've ever heard, you're not even close!
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Post by politicidal on Feb 24, 2020 18:53:45 GMT
It’s one of my favorites.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 19:11:23 GMT
Look how you massacred my boy! You really do the worst Godfather I've ever heard, you're not even close! That's the joke. My joke: ________ Your head
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Feb 24, 2020 19:18:15 GMT
As some of you may know, I don’t watch movies at home. Movies are sacred and belong on a big screen and are intended to be consumed as a communal experience. I honor and enjoy that to this day. In practice what it means is that unless I saw a movie on tv when’s i was very young and didn’t have this self imposed rule yet, I won’t see it until it makes a comeback to the cinemas. I practically hyperventilate every time I see somebody saying "Nah, I am not going to see it in the theatre, I will just wait until it's on Netflix" - but you take it way too far! You are cutting yourself off from all but a very few classic movies, and all but a very few non-American movies.
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Post by senan90 on Feb 24, 2020 19:18:29 GMT
It's a fine film, very rich and fascinating story. It's not overly complex but it's rich in its detail and world. 4/5
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Post by Nora on Feb 24, 2020 21:24:21 GMT
Not sure about the Luca accepting or not accepting. Luca worked for the Corleones and was killed when they figured he was a spy. yeah but how exactly did they figure it out based on what
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 24, 2020 22:02:27 GMT
Not sure about the Luca accepting or not accepting. Luca worked for the Corleones and was killed when they figured he was a spy. yeah but how exactly did they figure it out based on what The main reason is it was a stupid plan. But even if they were wrong and Luca was wanting join, they didn’t need him except to send a message to the Corleone’s. They were making big money moves and weren’t interested in negotiations.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 24, 2020 22:05:21 GMT
Not sure about the Luca accepting or not accepting. Luca worked for the Corleones and was killed when they figured he was a spy. yeah but how exactly did they figure it out based on what They probably didn't care either way, they just wanted to send a message.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 24, 2020 22:07:32 GMT
Interesting trivia, the scene where Luca is talking to Marlon at the wedding and messes up: "An immaculate child" wasn't actually in the script, the actor playing Luca was so nervous about working with Brando that he butchered his line horribly but Coppola liked it so much he left it in.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 24, 2020 22:10:27 GMT
It was a stupid plan. Why should they think Luca was unsatisfied with the Corleones? They had to know he was not too bright upstairs. Was he capable of seeking out another employer? Besides, it showed he was two-faced, and that would have been enough to get him killed anyway. How could Solotza trust him?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 24, 2020 22:20:32 GMT
I'm rather curious why they thought killing Sonny at the toll booth was a good idea. First off toll booths tend to get a lot of traffic, so their could have been witnesses. 2nd off, unless they killed the toll booth operater, aren't the cops gonna ask whoever was supposed to be working that shift some questions? "Oh well I went to get some coffee real quick while the shooting happened." Was Chief Wiggum investigating it?
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Post by Nora on Feb 24, 2020 23:00:01 GMT
I'm rather curious why they thought killing Sonny at the toll booth was a good idea. First off toll booths tend to get a lot of traffic, so their could have been witnesses. 2nd off, unless they killed the toll booth operater, aren't the cops gonna ask whoever was supposed to be working that shift some questions? "Oh well I went to get some coffee real quick while the shooting happened." Was Chief Wiggum investigating it? I was wondering about tha too, would love to know more about that scene and why and how thet picked That place...
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