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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 20, 2020 15:01:35 GMT
A quick post about something I didn't watch. Hamilton. It came to Disney+ so we gave it a go. Couldn't get into it. To be fair, musical theater is not my cup of tea to begin with. But a friend of mine suggested I check it out due to my appreciation of history. I got about ten minutes in and couldn't take any more. Honestly I don't understand the appeal. If you like history, I don't see how you could get into this manic misrepresentation of it; and I would think the enjoyment of musicals came from the singalong aspect of the presentation? The songs aren't catchy, quotable or doable as karaoke or whatever the appeal of musicals usually is, so I don't see why musical fans would enjoy it, either. But again, mine is clearly not the perspective to get on musicals to begin with. I'm not against it as a concept; I'm glad something so unusual has fans, for the sake of art itself. It's just not for me. I'm sure it has its moments that even I could enjoy, but I'm not willing to sit through two and a half hours to find them. I love history and I love theater but I HATE musical theater. That and country music are probably the two things on this earth that I truly hate with vehement passion. It's irrational, I have no basis for it, but it sends me into such a blind rage that it's best for me to avoid it altogether. It's ridiculous but I almost felt bad because I didn't like it. It's gotten virtually universal praise to the point where the subject matter would distract me from the format itself. I wanted to turn it off at the 3 minute mark, but I forced myself to sit through at least ten minutes to see if I could adjust. Didn't happen. And Amen on country music. It's insufferable, truly. We all have that genre of music that we cannot abide. My wife hates metal, my son hates classical, I can't stand country.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jul 20, 2020 15:19:27 GMT
A quick post about something I didn't watch. Hamilton. It came to Disney+ so we gave it a go. Couldn't get into it. To be fair, musical theater is not my cup of tea to begin with. But a friend of mine suggested I check it out due to my appreciation of history. I got about ten minutes in and couldn't take any more. Honestly I don't understand the appeal. If you like history, I don't see how you could get into this manic misrepresentation of it; and I would think the enjoyment of musicals came from the singalong aspect of the presentation? The songs aren't catchy, quotable or doable as karaoke or whatever the appeal of musicals usually is, so I don't see why musical fans would enjoy it, either. But again, mine is clearly not the perspective to get on musicals to begin with. I'm not against it as a concept; I'm glad something so unusual has fans, for the sake of art itself. It's just not for me. I'm sure it has its moments that even I could enjoy, but I'm not willing to sit through two and a half hours to find them. I love history and I love theater but I HATE musical theater. That and country music are probably the two things on this earth that I truly hate with vehement passion. It's irrational, I have no basis for it, but it sends me into such a blind rage that it's best for me to avoid it altogether. Does that include musicals as well? Because I get into a blind rage with musicals as well as musical theater (which are close enough to one another). I want to kick the shit out of people when I hear Singing in the Rain too.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jul 20, 2020 15:23:16 GMT
I love history and I love theater but I HATE musical theater. That and country music are probably the two things on this earth that I truly hate with vehement passion. It's irrational, I have no basis for it, but it sends me into such a blind rage that it's best for me to avoid it altogether. It's ridiculous but I almost felt bad because I didn't like it. It's gotten virtually universal praise to the point where the subject matter would distract me from the format itself. I wanted to turn it off at the 3 minute mark, but I forced myself to sit through at least ten minutes to see if I could adjust. Didn't happen. And Amen on country music. It's insufferable, truly. We all have that genre of music that we cannot abide. My wife hates metal, my son hates classical, I can't stand country. Even like Johnny Cash country? There's nothing more loathsome than commercial country - - I'd rather listen to boy bands. But I like country as an accent to other music.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 20, 2020 15:36:34 GMT
It's ridiculous but I almost felt bad because I didn't like it. It's gotten virtually universal praise to the point where the subject matter would distract me from the format itself. I wanted to turn it off at the 3 minute mark, but I forced myself to sit through at least ten minutes to see if I could adjust. Didn't happen. And Amen on country music. It's insufferable, truly. We all have that genre of music that we cannot abide. My wife hates metal, my son hates classical, I can't stand country. Even like Johnny Cash country? There's nothing more loathsome than commercial country - - I'd rather listen to boy bands. But I like country as an accent to other music. Older country is a separate entity altogether. That's actual country music. Still not really my jam, but I'm fine with it. The country I hate is the commercial country as you put it.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jul 20, 2020 15:54:47 GMT
I disagree about the villain. Just because he wasn't physically menacing it didn't make him a less interesting villain in a "Dr. Evil" sort of way. I'll say this, at least he had a realistic motivation. The Chiwetel Ejiofor character made no sense at all. "I did some research and found out you've probably saved the human race ten times over. So I decided to sell you out anyway."
On that we are in full agreement!
The actions of
the traitor didn't make a whole lot of sense either. I'll buy his desire to finally be allowed to die, but why would he betray his companions instead of simply turning himself in? I know that the pharma company wanted all of them, but he could very easily have said "you can have me but not my friends"
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 20, 2020 16:51:29 GMT
The Carpetbaggers (1964)
Great soapy drama based on Harold Robbins’ pulp novel with George Peppard as a tyrannical business magnate who treats everyone around him like dirt.
Very enjoyable.
And Caroll Baker looked very sexy. Martha Hyer too.
Alan Ladd’s last film.
Quite long.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jul 20, 2020 17:05:25 GMT
I love history and I love theater but I HATE musical theater. That and country music are probably the two things on this earth that I truly hate with vehement passion. It's irrational, I have no basis for it, but it sends me into such a blind rage that it's best for me to avoid it altogether. Does that include musicals as well? Because I get into a blind rage with musicals as well as musical theater (which are close enough to one another). I want to kick the shit out of people when I hear Singing in the Rain too. Musicals bother me less than musical theater, but the ones I can tolerate are few and far between. Nightmare Before Christmas (saw this on acid once, sweet merciful christ) and La La Land I really like, but I'm struggling to think of other ones I can sit through. Any of those Fred Astaire movies can fuck right off.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 20, 2020 23:13:35 GMT
The very 1st Jeopardy is being aired right now.
Good stuff.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jul 22, 2020 2:48:13 GMT
The very 1st Jeopardy is being aired right now. Good stuff. The very first Jeopardy? What year is it from? What is 1967?
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 22, 2020 9:44:51 GMT
The very 1st Jeopardy is being aired right now. Good stuff. The very first Jeopardy? What year is it from? What is 1967?
I just googled it and it says it debuted in the 60s
But this episode - it kind of had an 80s feel to it - I don't know - before my time.
Trebek came on prior to it's airing it was the first Jeopardy. Maybe the first episode aired in prime time?
Didn't seem like the winnings were as big back then.....
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 22, 2020 11:16:35 GMT
The Godfather is on IFC right now. Just started.
I never understood the over the top love. Found it incredibly dull and boring.
Maybe I wasn't giving it an honest viewing.
Going to try again.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 22, 2020 16:19:42 GMT
The Godfather is on IFC right now. Just started. I never understood the over the top love. Found it incredibly dull and boring. Maybe I wasn't giving it an honest viewing. Going to try again. If there are commercials, you could tell me the movie is still on and I'd believe you.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 22, 2020 16:22:59 GMT
The Godfather is on IFC right now. Just started. I never understood the over the top love. Found it incredibly dull and boring. Maybe I wasn't giving it an honest viewing. Going to try again. If there are commercials, you could tell me the movie is still on and I'd believe you. I gave up again after he was courting the girl in Italy.
Just too slow of a movie for my tastes.
To each their own.
It's no Goodfellas IMO.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 22, 2020 16:25:07 GMT
If there are commercials, you could tell me the movie is still on and I'd believe you. I gave up again after he was courting the girl in Italy.
Just too slow of a movie for my tastes.
To each their own.
It's no Goodfellas IMO.
I love the first two GFs, but yeah they certainly aren't high octane thrillers.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 22, 2020 16:27:39 GMT
I gave up again after he was courting the girl in Italy.
Just too slow of a movie for my tastes.
To each their own.
It's no Goodfellas IMO.
I love the first two GFs, but yeah they certainly aren't high octane thrillers. Do you rank them above Goodfellas?
I've heard people talk about G2 about how it's the only movie (used to be) with DeNiro and Pacino! But did they share any screen time at all?
To me - if you're a fan of DeNiro and Pacino and want to see them together - Heat is the movie.
IMO Goodfellas and Heat are far superior to any Godfather movie - but that's just me.
I'd even rank The Irishman over The Godfather flicks - and I was kind of lukewarm on that movie - enjoyed it until the last half hour which was torturous in it's own right.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 22, 2020 16:45:34 GMT
I love the first two GFs, but yeah they certainly aren't high octane thrillers. Do you rank them above Goodfellas?
I've heard people talk about G2 about how it's the only movie (used to be) with DeNiro and Pacino! But did they share any screen time at all?
To me - if you're a fan of DeNiro and Pacino and want to see them together - Heat is the movie.
IMO Goodfellas and Heat are far superior to any Godfather movie - but that's just me.
I'd even rank The Irishman over The Godfather flicks - and I was kind of lukewarm on that movie - enjoyed it until the last half hour which was torturous in it's own right.
DeNiro plays a young Vito Corleone, so they don't have any scenes together. Heat is incredible. Heat is also kind of a slow burn, surprised you like that and not the GF. It feels like a 10 episode Netflix show compressed into a film, but it still works. Goodfellas is a different kind of film with a different perspective on organized crime compared to Godfather. Goodfellas is also fantastic, and I'd say more rewatchable than the Godfather, even if I wouldn't call it 'better.' I never got around to The Irishman, not sure I ever will.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 22, 2020 17:00:24 GMT
Do you rank them above Goodfellas?
I've heard people talk about G2 about how it's the only movie (used to be) with DeNiro and Pacino! But did they share any screen time at all?
To me - if you're a fan of DeNiro and Pacino and want to see them together - Heat is the movie.
IMO Goodfellas and Heat are far superior to any Godfather movie - but that's just me.
I'd even rank The Irishman over The Godfather flicks - and I was kind of lukewarm on that movie - enjoyed it until the last half hour which was torturous in it's own right.
DeNiro plays a young Vito Corleone, so they don't have any scenes together. Heat is incredible. Heat is also kind of a slow burn, surprised you like that and not the GF. It feels like a 10 episode Netflix show compressed into a film, but it still works. Goodfellas is a different kind of film with a different perspective on organized crime compared to Godfather. Goodfellas is also fantastic, and I'd say more rewatchable than the Godfather, even if I wouldn't call it 'better.' I never got around to The Irishman, not sure I ever will. I enjoyed the relationship between DeNiro and Pacino in Heat.
One Bad Guy vs. One Good Guy
But was one really 'Bad' and was one really 'Good'?
Good and bad in terms of how we label them in society - thief and cop; however what type of person is each inside down deep - which is why I really loved the Diner Scene how they came to have a mutual respect for each other.
The ending of Heat is one of my favorite endings of All-Time when Pacino reaches out to hold DeNiro's hand - that along with the closing musical score gave me chills.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 22, 2020 17:15:51 GMT
DeNiro plays a young Vito Corleone, so they don't have any scenes together. Heat is incredible. Heat is also kind of a slow burn, surprised you like that and not the GF. It feels like a 10 episode Netflix show compressed into a film, but it still works. Goodfellas is a different kind of film with a different perspective on organized crime compared to Godfather. Goodfellas is also fantastic, and I'd say more rewatchable than the Godfather, even if I wouldn't call it 'better.' I never got around to The Irishman, not sure I ever will. I enjoyed the relationship between DeNiro and Pacino in Heat.
One Bad Guy vs. One Good Guy
But was one really 'Bad' and was one really 'Good'?
Good and bad in terms of how we label them in society - thief and cop; however what type of person is each inside down deep - which is why I really loved the Diner Scene how they came to have a mutual respect for each other.
The ending of Heat is one of my favorite endings of All-Time when Pacino reaches out to hold DeNiro's hand - that along with the closing musical score gave me chills.
Almost everything about Heat is great. Every character gets a backstory. The friggin' getaway driver who gets unceremoniously capped has a compelling story. The only real negatives I can think of are Pacino's occasional (but when he goes for it, he really goes for it) overacting and the braindead chick as De Niro's love interest. Not a well written character at all. Other than that, the movie is just awesome.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 22, 2020 21:36:54 GMT
awesome news. ABC has announced they're doing a reboot on The Wonder Years. Always had a crush on Winnie Cooper. Watching some Wonder Years clips on Youtube
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 23, 2020 10:31:44 GMT
A great Dateline is on sparking the debate - should you be able to protect your home with deadly force. Many argue yes. Not to open a can of worms - but I'm anti-gun and believe in stricter rules for gun control. I'll protect my home and loved ones with Mr. A and Mr. B - that's my left and right hand folks Anywho - now that that's out of the way - Dateline: Secrets Uncovered: Deadly Exchange 'A foreign exchange student and soccer player's participation in a dangerous game leads to deadly consequences' Pretty much this kid went around robbing homes and a homeowner shot him to death.
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