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Post by hi224 on Mar 29, 2020 0:52:34 GMT
American Hustle comes to mind, didn't really care for its rather happy conclusion which undercuts all the built up tension which preceded it as well.
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Post by bravomailer on Mar 29, 2020 1:33:44 GMT
I never bought the idea of Col Jessup giving the game away on the stand in A Few Good Men.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 1:40:12 GMT
The Descent 2.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 2:30:08 GMT
The last 10 minutes of In Bruges feels like the last 10 minutes of Adaptation done unironically.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 29, 2020 2:37:57 GMT
10 Cloverfield Lane
The alien stuff is a silly throwaway connection to another movie that doesn't even fit the tone of the rest of the movie. It takes away all the impact of everything that came before. It should have ended ambiguously imo.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Mar 29, 2020 2:41:15 GMT
10 Cloverfield Land The alien stuff is a silly throwaway connection to another movie that doesn't even fit the tone of the rest of the movie. It takes away all the impact of everything that came before. It should have ended ambiguously imo. It's even more aggravating when you realize that the alien stuff was added during reshoots after they decided to make it a Cloverfield movie despite originally having nothing to do with Cloverfield. |
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 29, 2020 2:45:09 GMT
10 Cloverfield Land The alien stuff is a silly throwaway connection to another movie that doesn't even fit the tone of the rest of the movie. It takes away all the impact of everything that came before. It should have ended ambiguously imo. It's even more aggravating when you realize that the Allen stuff was added during reshoots after they decided to make it a Cloverfield movie despite originally having nothing to do with Cloverfield. I'm not surprised. It feels like somebody found a pre-existing screnplay and then just added Cloverfield into the title and changed some stuff to make it sort of fit with Cloverfield (2008).
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Post by Marv on Mar 29, 2020 3:05:56 GMT
10 Cloverfield Lane The alien stuff is a silly throwaway connection to another movie that doesn't even fit the tone of the rest of the movie. It takes away all the impact of everything that came before. It should have ended ambiguously imo. Agreed, however I loved that final sequence. It reminds me a lot of From a Dusk Til Dawn in the sense that I love both parts of the film...even tho they don’t really mesh well. |
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 29, 2020 3:08:26 GMT
10 Cloverfield Lane The alien stuff is a silly throwaway connection to another movie that doesn't even fit the tone of the rest of the movie. It takes away all the impact of everything that came before. It should have ended ambiguously imo. Agreed, however I loved that final sequence. It reminds me a lot of From a Dusk Til Dawn in the sense that I love both parts of the film...even tho they don’t really mesh well. The entire second half is like a different movie in the case of From Dusk Till Dawn though. If all of a sudden vampires showed up in the last 10 minutes it would have ruined the entire movie.
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Post by Marv on Mar 29, 2020 3:11:06 GMT
Agreed, however I loved that final sequence. It reminds me a lot of From a Dusk Til Dawn in the sense that I love both parts of the film...even tho they don’t really mesh well. The entire second half is like a different movie in the case of From Dusk Till Dawn though. If all of a sudden vampires showed up in the last 10 minutes it would have made the movie terrible. Well...I do think in 10 Cloverfields case it almost feels like an epilogue. Like the main story with the bunker and Goodman was all over with...and here’s a 10 minute action sequence with an alien spaceship. I don’t think it necessarily undercuts the movie but it certainly ends on a different note than expected. |
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 29, 2020 3:12:13 GMT
The entire second half is like a different movie in the case of From Dusk Till Dawn though. If all of a sudden vampires showed up in the last 10 minutes it would have made the movie terrible. Well...I do think in 10 Cloverfields case it almost feels like an epilogue. Like the main story with the bunker and Goodman was all over with...and here’s a 10 minute action sequence with an alien spaceship. I don’t think it necessarily undercuts the movie but it certainly ends on a different note than expected. It undercuts it because it's stupid and connects to a terrible POS movie.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 3:22:31 GMT
Well...I do think in 10 Cloverfields case it almost feels like an epilogue. Like the main story with the bunker and Goodman was all over with...and here’s a 10 minute action sequence with an alien spaceship. I don’t think it necessarily undercuts the movie but it certainly ends on a different note than expected. It undercuts it because it's stupid and connects to a terrible POS movie. Connecting to Cloverfield I would have been okay with, but it doesn't even really do that. There weren't alien spaceships in Cloverfield, and there's no giant monster ravaging NY mentioned here. |
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 29, 2020 3:25:49 GMT
It undercuts it because it's stupid and connects to a terrible POS movie. Connecting to Cloverfield I would have been okay with, but it doesn't even really do that. There weren't alien spaceships in Cloverfield, and there's no giant monster ravaging NY mentioned here. Yeah, I thought of that but I still think that the monster was meant to be like a first wave attack. If that isn't the case then the movie pisses me off even more by pretending it is connected just to sell tickets. Either way, I dislike the ending for the first reasons I mentioned. I tried to avoid bringing my irrational hatred of Cloverfield (2008) into this because that is a different but sort of connected matter. The last act of 10 Cloverfield Lane feels like a video game. I partly dislike the ending of this for the same reason I despise the ending of The Strangers. Cynical endings work sometimes, but in the case of those 2 movies they absolutely do not work imo.
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Post by bravomailer on Mar 29, 2020 3:41:49 GMT
The shift in inflection at the end of The Conversation was off-putting. There's a big difference between
"He'd kill us if he could." (He 's a threat to us.)
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"He'd kill us if he could." (He 's a threat to us so it's okay if we kill him.)
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 29, 2020 3:47:21 GMT
The shift in inflection at the end of The Conversation was off-putting. There's a big difference between "He'd kill us if he could." (He 's a threat to us.) and "He'd kill us if he could." (He 's a threat to us so it's okay if we kill him.) The way I see it, the point isn't that what happened is okay. The point is that what Gene Hackman's character is paranoid about through the entire movie isn't what he should have been paranoid about. His moral dilemma is turned on it's head in the final act. Gene Hackman's perception of the situation is the exact of opposite of what is happening. The ending is why the movie is as good as it is imo.
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Post by bravomailer on Mar 29, 2020 4:28:30 GMT
The shift in inflection at the end of The Conversation was off-putting. There's a big difference between "He'd kill us if he could." (He 's a threat to us.) and "He'd kill us if he could." (He 's a threat to us so it's okay if we kill him.) The way I see it, the point isn't that what happened is okay. The point is that what Gene Hackman's character is paranoid about through the entire movie isn't what he should have been paranoid about. His moral dilemma is turned on it's head in the final act. Gene Hackman's perception of the situation is the exact of opposite of what is happening. But it isn't just Hackman's perception. It's the perception of everyone listening to the couple's conversation in the park. Nonetheless, I think very highly of the film.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Mar 29, 2020 4:31:41 GMT
Revenge flicks.
OK so you left a bunch of bodies of the main bad guy and his henchmen in your wake but your family members and others you were getting revenge for are still dead.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Mar 29, 2020 4:34:34 GMT
10 Cloverfield Lane The alien stuff is a silly throwaway connection to another movie that doesn't even fit the tone of the rest of the movie. It takes away all the impact of everything that came before. It should have ended ambiguously imo. Agreed, however I loved that final sequence. It reminds me a lot of From a Dusk Til Dawn in the sense that I love both parts of the film...even tho they don’t really mesh well. Do you mean having criminals that take hostages and then they all somehow get involved with vampires? I never thought of it that way but yeah you're right. It is weird how they mix up both worlds as if they are two separate movies in one.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 29, 2020 4:35:09 GMT
The way I see it, the point isn't that what happened is okay. The point is that what Gene Hackman's character is paranoid about through the entire movie isn't what he should have been paranoid about. His moral dilemma is turned on it's head in the final act. Gene Hackman's perception of the situation is the exact of opposite of what is happening. But it isn't just Hackman's perception. It's the perception of everyone listening to the couple's conversation in the park. Nonetheless, I think very highly of the film. Yes, but the focus of the story is Gene Hackman's character. None of the other characters are struggling with the moral dilemma in the same way. The moral dilemma is the whole point. The whole movie he is worried that he is helping to get 2 innocent people killed, when in fact it is those 2 innocent people that end up being the killers. His nightmare changes from them being killed to Robert Duvall being killed.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Mar 29, 2020 5:14:57 GMT
Spectre... undercut the Craig era's build-up for me.
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