Western hedonism & Islamic Hardliners are both radical

The responses to this thread have gone exactly as I thought they would go. Either the (one here I guess) anti-democratic hardliners excusing human rights abuses for "not wanting Western culture," or the complete opposite, the deluded secular materialists such as the gentleman above me who, and I gave this example already, treat everyone who does not agree with their ideals as lepers who need to be shunned from society.

It is easy for you to say "oh nothing big is going on, get over it," when you live in a comfortable bubble where everyone agrees with your views and it is so easy to dismiss anyone who challenges you as a psychopath.

Western society has always, always, always tried to normalize and put a casual "oh big deal" label on its failures. From its enslavement into hedonistic decadence, to its treatment of animals ("oh it's just a Happy Meal with a toy, nothing wrong there!") to so many other things.

But truth always needs to be said and set free.

How "hedonistic decadence is a failure" ? Because addictions and obsessions with material and physical pleasure, be it drugs or sex or alcohol, stand in opposition to enlightenment, progress, and advancement, both spiritual and otherwise. The Declaration of Independence was not signed in the middle of a drug-fueled orgy, at least to my knowledge. The Sistine Chapel's ceiling was not designed while Michelangelo was snorting crack off a ladyboy's ass. As long as society chooses to have it's morals in the gutter, it will never advance.

And yes, it is quite closely tied to animal abuse. For someone who demands evidence you seem to not be aware of some very basic things here. Because the evidence and indisputable proof of the horrors of Western, most specifically American slaughterhouses, which accounts for 95% of all your meat, is far, far, far beyond any kind of reasonable questioning. Click the link attached to my profile if you really don't know anything about it. It is in every single last post that I make.

Before we continue...have we interacted before? You know my "previous posts", not only on here, but also on others websites? What? If that is not the creepiest thing someone has said to me on here, I don't know what it is. Are you some kind of stalker anti-fan, or are you so triggered by this thread that you are conducting some sort of web-wide research into me? If so, I must say I am surprised - I did not expect someone to actually be so affected by what I am writing. I must have struck a nerve somewhere?

With the above in mind, yes there are plenty of signs western society is taking the wrong turn. Virtually every poll of the past decade has shown that atheism is on the rise. The majority of people in every Western city I have lived in and interacted with have been atheists. Now of course you will not agree that this is a bad thing, and it would bring the whole question back to God, the meaning of life etc. etc. But yes, my position is that abandoning the hope of eternity and God makes humans lesser than what they were meant to be.

Secondly, and once again in this thread I talk about this and everyone ignores it - love of materialism is directly linked to the continued strength of capitalism/corporatism, and animal abuse. Human societies throughout the world continue to see the gap between the super rich and the poor grow wider and wider, and that is because capitalism feeds off materialism and hedonism to keep people happy enough with the establishment. You would correctly point out that the majority of hardened corporatists, at least in America, are of the Christian Republican sect, and that is indeed a big tragedy.

This then that leads into environmental destruction and animal abuse. Yes I understand that ironically enough it is humanists who speak out much more about protecting the environment, but the stripping away of spirituality and seeing the earth solely as a material compost for our comfort and benefit is precisely what gives power to those that are exploiting it.