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Post by faustus5 on May 2, 2017 16:49:15 GMT
Apparently the idea that someone has a functioning memory is mind blowing to you. When people make bizarre posts whining about harmless sex scenes in movies and TV, I tend to remember them. Weirdo’s stick out like that. This is actually a very good thing. Societies that are less prone to be religious tend to have higher standards of living, less crime, and have citizens who self-report as happier than societies that are religious. Plus, it is always good just on general principles to reject absurd supernatural beliefs. And it is my position that believing in irrational, stone-age fairy tales is what really makes humans lesser than what they could be. One could also argue that historically, capitalism/corporatism are responsible for cultivating materialism (in the consumerist sense) in the first place. Don't know why you think this is ironic. If you base your views on facts and evidence rather than supernatural silliness, protecting the environment is the only rational stance to take. And one of the most popular atheist science bloggers in the world recently declared that he was so outraged at what he had learned about animal abuse in the food industry that he's become a vegan. None of this should surprise you.
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Post by cupcakes on May 19, 2017 14:56:57 GMT
tpfkar I don't watch your youtubes any more either, as campy apoplectic bullsh!tter videos don't do much for me. Masculinity was just fine until regressives decided White Straight Men were somewhere between Hitler and fecal matter.
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Post by phludowin on May 19, 2017 15:30:04 GMT
I don't watch your youtubes any more either, as campy apoplectic bullsh!tter videos don't do much for me. Smart decision. You didn't miss anything. I had decided to humor thorshairspray by watching the video. Afterwards, I thought briefly whether I should ask for an apology from him, for posting such a boring and pointless video; but I didn't bother. Now that this thread has been bumped, I can at least say that I have learned a lesson: Don't click his links.
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Post by THawk on Jun 9, 2017 12:31:53 GMT
here are some interesting, albeit psychotic comments form a pastor that touches upon this issue: www.rightwingwatch.org/post/david-whitney-asks-which-is-worse-terrorism-or-ariana-grandes-promotion-of-satanism-and-sodomy/No, I do not agree that Grande is "leading souls to hell" and all that conservative hocus pocus. However. And this is a big however. Just because ISIS is "more wrong" in its actions doesn't mean this is a battle of black and white. ISIS may certainly be "black," but Grande is not the angel of God the media has been portraying her as. Radical Islam is obviously never the solution, but in her own way Grande and the rest of the Western hedonism world deludes and corrupts young minds as well. She and her celebrity peers preach the message that a person's worth is directly tied to their sex appeal, that how you look (and how appealing you look to others) should define your happiness, your "freedom" and all that. Of course, Grande and the others would argue until they are blue in the face that that is not at all what they are doing, that they are teaching kids to "believe in themselves, find their own identity" and all that hot garbage, but it is evident to anyone with half a brain that that is not the underlying message at all. Sex sells, and they want everyone to be selling as much of it as possible. "Empowering girls to make their own choices" means jack shit in a society where only the celebration of hedonism is accepted, and everything else is looked down upon and rejected as 'archaic.' So to recap - sure, IS is worse for what it is doing, but Grande and her like are most definitely as hell not a good role model for anyone either.
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Post by progressiveelement on Jun 9, 2017 13:15:15 GMT
here are some interesting, albeit psychotic comments form a pastor that touches upon this issue: www.rightwingwatch.org/post/david-whitney-asks-which-is-worse-terrorism-or-ariana-grandes-promotion-of-satanism-and-sodomy/No, I do not agree that Grande is "leading souls to hell" and all that conservative hocus pocus. However. And this is a big however. Just because ISIS is "more wrong" in its actions doesn't mean this is a battle of black and white. ISIS may certainly be "black," but Grande is not the angel of God the media has been portraying her as. Radical Islam is obviously never the solution, but in her own way Grande and the rest of the Western hedonism world deludes and corrupts young minds as well. She and her celebrity peers preach the message that a person's worth is directly tied to their sex appeal, that how you look (and how appealing you look to others) should define your happiness, your "freedom" and all that. Of course, Grande and the others would argue until they are blue in the face that that is not at all what they are doing, that they are teaching kids to "believe in themselves, find their own identity" and all that hot garbage, but it is evident to anyone with half a brain that that is not the underlying message at all. Sex sells, and they want everyone to be selling as much of it as possible. "Empowering girls to make their own choices" means jack shit in a society where only the celebration of hedonism is accepted, and everything else is looked down upon and rejected as 'archaic.' So to recap - sure, IS is worse for what it is doing, but Grande and her like are most definitely as hell not a good role model for anyone either.
It helps to be physically appealing to others. Being an ugly bastard means you better have smarts in your head to compensate, or be rich, or you're fucked.
Or you could just simply not care, and get on with your life without a care in the whole world.
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Post by thefleetsin on Jun 9, 2017 13:36:31 GMT
except, within a free society, i can tell your god to go fuck himself.
and all you can do, is feel persecuted and cry.
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 9, 2017 18:04:07 GMT
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Jun 9, 2017 18:25:21 GMT
here are some interesting, albeit psychotic comments form a pastor that touches upon this issue: www.rightwingwatch.org/post/david-whitney-asks-which-is-worse-terrorism-or-ariana-grandes-promotion-of-satanism-and-sodomy/No, I do not agree that Grande is "leading souls to hell" and all that conservative hocus pocus. However. And this is a big however. Just because ISIS is "more wrong" in its actions doesn't mean this is a battle of black and white. ISIS may certainly be "black," but Grande is not the angel of God the media has been portraying her as. Radical Islam is obviously never the solution, but in her own way Grande and the rest of the Western hedonism world deludes and corrupts young minds as well. She and her celebrity peers preach the message that a person's worth is directly tied to their sex appeal, that how you look (and how appealing you look to others) should define your happiness, your "freedom" and all that. Of course, Grande and the others would argue until they are blue in the face that that is not at all what they are doing, that they are teaching kids to "believe in themselves, find their own identity" and all that hot garbage, but it is evident to anyone with half a brain that that is not the underlying message at all. Sex sells, and they want everyone to be selling as much of it as possible. "Empowering girls to make their own choices" means jack shit in a society where only the celebration of hedonism is accepted, and everything else is looked down upon and rejected as 'archaic.' So to recap - sure, IS is worse for what it is doing, but Grande and her like are most definitely as hell not a good role model for anyone either. Good lord, you're actually seriously trying to compare ISIS and Ariana Grande? Deranged.
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Post by phludowin on Jun 9, 2017 18:33:15 GMT
here are some interesting, albeit psychotic comments form a pastor that touches upon this issue: www.rightwingwatch.org/post/david-whitney-asks-which-is-worse-terrorism-or-ariana-grandes-promotion-of-satanism-and-sodomy/No, I do not agree that Grande is "leading souls to hell" and all that conservative hocus pocus. However. And this is a big however. Just because ISIS is "more wrong" in its actions doesn't mean this is a battle of black and white. ISIS may certainly be "black," but Grande is not the angel of God the media has been portraying her as. Radical Islam is obviously never the solution, but in her own way Grande and the rest of the Western hedonism world deludes and corrupts young minds as well. She and her celebrity peers preach the message that a person's worth is directly tied to their sex appeal, that how you look (and how appealing you look to others) should define your happiness, your "freedom" and all that. Of course, Grande and the others would argue until they are blue in the face that that is not at all what they are doing, that they are teaching kids to "believe in themselves, find their own identity" and all that hot garbage, but it is evident to anyone with half a brain that that is not the underlying message at all. Sex sells, and they want everyone to be selling as much of it as possible. "Empowering girls to make their own choices" means jack shit in a society where only the celebration of hedonism is accepted, and everything else is looked down upon and rejected as 'archaic.' So to recap - sure, IS is worse for what it is doing, but Grande and her like are most definitely as hell not a good role model for anyone either. And once again, you fail to provide evidence for either of the claims I bolded above; and you also fail to provide evidence why it would be a bad thing, if it were true. So, no surprises there.
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Post by THawk on Jun 10, 2017 9:56:04 GMT
here are some interesting, albeit psychotic comments form a pastor that touches upon this issue: www.rightwingwatch.org/post/david-whitney-asks-which-is-worse-terrorism-or-ariana-grandes-promotion-of-satanism-and-sodomy/No, I do not agree that Grande is "leading souls to hell" and all that conservative hocus pocus. However. And this is a big however. Just because ISIS is "more wrong" in its actions doesn't mean this is a battle of black and white. ISIS may certainly be "black," but Grande is not the angel of God the media has been portraying her as. Radical Islam is obviously never the solution, but in her own way Grande and the rest of the Western hedonism world deludes and corrupts young minds as well. She and her celebrity peers preach the message that a person's worth is directly tied to their sex appeal, that how you look (and how appealing you look to others) should define your happiness, your "freedom" and all that. Of course, Grande and the others would argue until they are blue in the face that that is not at all what they are doing, that they are teaching kids to "believe in themselves, find their own identity" and all that hot garbage, but it is evident to anyone with half a brain that that is not the underlying message at all. Sex sells, and they want everyone to be selling as much of it as possible. "Empowering girls to make their own choices" means jack shit in a society where only the celebration of hedonism is accepted, and everything else is looked down upon and rejected as 'archaic.' So to recap - sure, IS is worse for what it is doing, but Grande and her like are most definitely as hell not a good role model for anyone either. And once again, you fail to provide evidence for either of the claims I bolded above; and you also fail to provide evidence why it would be a bad thing, if it were true. So, no surprises there. The vast following of stars such as Grande, the increasing pornification of "regular" clothing, the pornified vastly popular TV shows, the abandonment of spirituality, the growing reliance on drugs and alcohol -- and, subsequently, the growing suicide rates because many fail to achieve the standards of an overly sexualized society, and the growing income inequality gap because of the worship of capitalism, are all very highly documented, unmissable and unavoidable pieces of evidence of the shallowness of Western culture. As for why this is a bad thing - let's start back at the dawn of time? Every single last instance of human progress, be it in philosophy or architecture or science or anything at all, has been based on humans seeking to transcend their base natures, relying on reason, and on the spirit, on ambition, on something beyond ourselves. Western hedonism, very long story short, is basically about where and how often you stick your genitals in. And that's what you are defending. As a very good friend of yours would say...."Sad."
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Post by progressiveelement on Jun 10, 2017 10:00:24 GMT
And once again, you fail to provide evidence for either of the claims I bolded above; and you also fail to provide evidence why it would be a bad thing, if it were true. So, no surprises there. The vast following of stars such as Grande, the increasing pornification of "regular" clothing, the pornified vastly popular TV shows, the abandonment of spirituality, the growing reliance on drugs and alcohol -- and, subsequently, the growing suicide rates because many fail to achieve the standards of an overly sexualized society, and the growing income inequality gap because of the worship of capitalism, are all very highly documented, unmissable and unavoidable pieces of evidence of the shallowness of Western culture. As for why this is a bad thing - let's start back at the dawn of time? Every single last instance of human progress, be it in philosophy or architecture or science or anything at all, has been based on humans seeking to transcend their base natures, relying on reason, and on the spirit, on ambition, on something beyond ourselves. Western hedonism, very long story short, is basically about where and how often you stick your genitals in. And that's what you are defending. As a very good friend of yours would say...."Sad." Guess you don't get invited to parties much.
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Post by THawk on Jun 10, 2017 10:09:09 GMT
The vast following of stars such as Grande, the increasing pornification of "regular" clothing, the pornified vastly popular TV shows, the abandonment of spirituality, the growing reliance on drugs and alcohol -- and, subsequently, the growing suicide rates because many fail to achieve the standards of an overly sexualized society, and the growing income inequality gap because of the worship of capitalism, are all very highly documented, unmissable and unavoidable pieces of evidence of the shallowness of Western culture. As for why this is a bad thing - let's start back at the dawn of time? Every single last instance of human progress, be it in philosophy or architecture or science or anything at all, has been based on humans seeking to transcend their base natures, relying on reason, and on the spirit, on ambition, on something beyond ourselves. Western hedonism, very long story short, is basically about where and how often you stick your genitals in. And that's what you are defending. As a very good friend of yours would say...."Sad." Guess you don't get invited to parties much. Neither did Gandhi nor Martin Luther King Jr., the kind of parties you are referring to. I guess we must all decide who we identify with more in life, don't we?
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Post by phludowin on Jun 10, 2017 10:32:37 GMT
And once again, you fail to provide evidence for either of the claims I bolded above; and you also fail to provide evidence why it would be a bad thing, if it were true. So, no surprises there. The vast following of stars such as Grande, the increasing pornification of "regular" clothing, the pornified vastly popular TV shows, the abandonment of spirituality, the growing reliance on drugs and alcohol -- and, subsequently, the growing suicide rates because many fail to achieve the standards of an overly sexualized society, and the growing income inequality gap because of the worship of capitalism, are all very highly documented, unmissable and unavoidable pieces of evidence of the shallowness of Western culture. No. I just googled a few statistics, and came to the conclusion that there is no significant difference between drug consumption in the West and the Non-West, and there also is no trend that drug consumption is growing in the West, and there also is no significant difference in suicide rates. Income inequality may be a problem; but I believe that it's worse in the Non-West than in the West. As for why this is a bad thing - let's start back at the dawn of time? Every single last instance of human progress, be it in philosophy or architecture or science or anything at all, has been based on humans seeking to transcend their base natures, relying on reason, and on the spirit, on ambition, on something beyond ourselves. Western hedonism, very long story short, is basically about where and how often you stick your genitals in. And that's what you are defending. As a very good friend of yours would say...."Sad." I don't know what "good friend" you have in mind, but your description of Western hedonism is as unfounded as it was the first time you said it. And in my opinion progress was not made because humans wanted to transcend their base natures; it was made because humans wanted to make life easier.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 11:31:14 GMT
right there lads: 1) Saying two separate things are both bad in their own way does not mean they are both equally bad. Get that through your heads. Yes, Western society would be preferable over one governed by Sharia law. Much like rat poison would be preferable over being shot directly in the head. Just because something is worse, doesn't mean the other thing is ok. 2) India's government under Modi has a terrible record on abusing religious minorities. They turn a blind eye on purpose to radical Hindu mobs carrying out "justice" against nonbelievers, and at the same time kick out noble organizations helping thousands of children, such as Compassion International, out of completely delusional fears they are forcefully converting Hindus. Just because Modi, Erdogan and the like try to paint themselves as "moderates" compared to other hardliners doesn't make them any less complicit. Sure, the situation in India may not be as horrible as what's going on in Pakistan - but again, hardly is that a compliment. 3) It's ridiculous to even argue about what's going on in the West. The decay is everywhere, from the very top to the very bottom. From the entirety of popular entertainment and media to the indoctrination camps that are Western education, from early school years to college. Sure, congratulation, high five, gold star - it "ain't as bad" as ISIS' Cubs of the Caliphate camps, but that should not be your measuring stick. If Islamic radicals have their "Cubs of the Caliphate," then Western education has "Cubs of Lady Gaga's ass," where only one line of thought is tolerated, and anyone who disagrees is treated as a moral leper. I agree that Western Society is on the decline. We've bought into the idea of our own guilt. Western Society, particularly Western Europe has been on the decline since it began to turn it's back on and mostly abandon it's Christian traditions and principles.
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Post by progressiveelement on Jun 10, 2017 11:37:11 GMT
Guess you don't get invited to parties much. Neither did Gandhi nor Martin Luther King Jr., the kind of parties you are referring to. I guess we must all decide who we identify with more in life, don't we? And both got shot. 👍
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 11:42:04 GMT
I agree that Western Society is on the decline. We've bought into the idea of our own guilt. Western Society, particularly Western Europe has been on the decline since it began to turn it's on and mostly abandoned it's Christian traditions and principles. The principle of forcing a women to give birth to her rapists child? The principle of teaching creationist fairy tales to young children instead of actual science? The principle of opposing equal rights in marriage and adoption for people because of their sexual orientation? You mean those principles Cody? The stranglehold Christianity had in society in the UK was broken long ago and we're all the better for it,despite what dipshits like you might tell yourselves. Now we must not let Islam(which is even worse) fill that void left by the decline of Christianity. No power or deference given to any religion in the UK,drive them out of the political arena and into their mosques and churches which is the only place religion belongs. .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 13:04:41 GMT
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1) This is dealing with seduction, not rape. 2) That command has nothing to do with Christianity anyway. If you have a problem with it take it out with the Jews.
As opposed to the fairytale of teaching young children that they're just evolved apes?
Marriage should be between a man and a woman, just as nature intended. Same sex relationships serve no positive benefits to society or the future of civilisation.
Yeah you keep telling yourself that you thick northern gypo. In the mean time the UK currently has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Western Europe, with under age binge drinking escalating, highest heroin, cocaine and ecstasy use in Europe. The UK is classified as the most violent country in Europe with the second highest crime rate in the EU. It has the highest homocide rate of any Western European country and the highest number of burglaries recorded.
But yeah we're soo much better for it...
But that is exactly the way it's going, dickhead. And when it does it will only reinforce my point. Churches are closing down and mosques are being sprung up in every corner. The UK government and citizens wouldn't have stood for this Islamic invasion as much if it was still firm in it's Christian beliefs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 14:13:31 GMT
I wasn't talking about that dipshit but your casual Christian anti-semitism in passing of old testament verses you don't like onto "the jews" is noted. I was talking about you Cody who wants to make all abortions in the UK illegal resulting in women being forced to give birth to their rapists child,your Christianity is the reason you formed this opinion or would you care to deny you got your morality from the bible? As opposed to Adam and Eve and the garden of Eden? Nobody gives a fuck who you think marriage should be between,religions don't hold dominion over marriage(certainly not the judo-Christian ones) not only does it predate them it is a legal ceremony and falls under the purview of the government and is therefor obligated to offer equal rights to consenting adults. Oh and nobody told the Scottish Episcopal Church which has just approved gay marriage ceremonies. Tell me are they not "True Christians" because of this. And it's not for you to decide what constitutes a positive benefit to society or the future civilization you arrogant little shit of a man. Oh and what exactly does "as nature intended mean" The second highest crime rate? Because I say your full of shit: www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2016®ion=155That put us at no 12 in the crime stats in Europe. Yeah I saw that report about Britians drug use in Europe I also saw this important caveat attached to it: And you of course believe this is because people don't go to church anymore and not enough Britain's are Christians. Then riddle me this smart boy: Why does America(the largest Christian country in the world) have more violent crime, more murders,more drug abuse and more teen pregnancies than the UK ?. If Christianity is the solution then why does America have so many more of these problems than we do? And how exactly do we get people back into churches dickhead,force them? Religion is dying in all western countries because of our education standards and secular values,the only reason Islam is flourishing is because we're importing poorly educated Muslims from third world countries who are very good at indoctrinated their children. And the reason it's tolerated is because of many people in this country don't want to be seen to racist or prejudiced against a minority(something Christianity didn't have a problem with for years).That is a mistake and I'm confident people will eventually come to their senses. However the answer to Muslim extremism is not to promote the Christian extremism you espouse. We must force Islam to occupy the same place as Christianity does today largely an insignificant footnote that plays no role in the vast majority of Britain's lives.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 14:52:19 GMT
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Because 1) USA's population is 5 times the size of Britain's and 2) for the same reasons as the UK, education(teaching kids that they're evolved apes, that there's no God to be accountable to and that morality is completely subjective) and secularism. Brainwashing through immoral music and media also plays a part.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 15:10:36 GMT
@superdude6090 Because 1) USA's population is 5 times the size of Britain's and 2) for the same reasons as the UK, education(teaching kids that they're evolved apes, that there's no God to be accountable to and that morality is completely subjective) and secularism. Brainwashing through immoral music and media also plays a part. You think because there's a separation of church and state in public schools that children aren't taught about God. Have you even been to America do you have any idea how many religious school and churches there are? They have 280 million Christians in America which is 78% of the population. 62% of them are members of a church congregation. So that's 160 million Americans roughly half of their population attend church. They have far more church going Christians than we do and yet they take drugs and impregnate each other,rob and kill each other in far higher rates than secular Britain does. And if you want to believe it's due to secularism and Immoral music then you're an even bigger fool than I thought. If Christianity made people more moral then America would be one of the safest places on earth,it doesn't so it's not. And don't get me started on Catholic Brazil.
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