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Post by drystyx on May 16, 2020 17:27:29 GMT
Lets say scientists discovered the "big one", like the Sun about to go Supernova in a few years, or two planets about to collide and propel huge fragments in all directions and wiping out life on Earth.
Or anything along those lines?
And lets say it's hopeless. Homo Sapiens are impossible to salvage. The species is extinct. The genus is extinct.
Would they decide to relent for a change? Maybe decide "well, no sense in letting these dumb animals know. Lets feed them for a while and just wait for the end?
Or would they be sadistic and gloat? Thus revealing how sadistic they've always been?
What would they do?
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Post by general313 on May 16, 2020 17:38:52 GMT
They'd keep it a secret, sell their homes and stocks and go on long and expensive world tours. I'll let you add the Demonic element when you make the next draft.
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Post by Jonesy1 on May 16, 2020 18:12:12 GMT
They'd keep it a secret, sell their homes and stocks and go on long and expensive world tours. I'll let you add the Demonic element when you make the next draft. Wouldn't blame them, after all there would be sod all anyone could do, nowhere to evacuate to and we don't possess the technology to transport people to another star system.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 17, 2020 3:50:43 GMT
Depends on how many knew. If it was a lot, I doubt they'd all manage to keep quiet as most scientists are out to discover the truth and communicate that discovery to others, not discover it and then not say anything.
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Post by thefleetsin on May 17, 2020 14:42:20 GMT
are you still involved in that death cult?
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Post by fatpaul on May 17, 2020 15:48:15 GMT
Like everyone else, shit their pants and panic!
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Post by Rodney Farber on May 17, 2020 17:43:12 GMT
As Eva said, it couldn’t happen that way. Imagine an astronomer at the Mount Wilson Observatory. She looks through her telescope and sees an anomaly. Maybe it’s extra sunspots. Maybe it’s an unknown comet. At first, she doesn’t realize that this is going to be THE Black Swan event that Jehovah Witnesses have been predicting since their final Christmas celebration at Bethel in 1926. The first thing she’s gonna do is ask a co-scientist to confirm this anomaly. The two of them watch this for hours until it sets below the horizon. Then, they notify other scientists on the other side of the globe to keep a look out and plot the course of the event. The path of the comet (or the sunspot activity) is measured for two days before the general consensus is, “The movie's over, it's four o'clock, and we're in trouble deep.” By then, at least 1000 people know. The whole world (except those on North Sentinal Island) will know within a day.
It’s an interesting concept, but the real question should be, “What would society do”? What will you do?
What would you do if you knew that Armageddon was going to happen in three months. Then imagine that everyone else on the planet is going to do the same thing. Suppose you want to visit GOZ in Alice Springs one more time. Who’s gonna fly there? The pilots aren’t working any more. The money you have in the bank is worthless. Farmers are no longer sending food to the market, so what are you going to eat? The toilet paper shortage is the least of your worries. |
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Post by politicidal on May 19, 2020 21:50:50 GMT
are you still involved in that death cult? Yes. Let’s get that cleared up. |
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Post by goz on May 19, 2020 22:16:29 GMT
I think they would have a scientists ONLY party they would wear this or maybe this   They would get the 50 year old scotch, the best champagne caviar and lobster, up a big batch of LSD or meth, plenty of cocaine and marijuana and not let religious people come.c |
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Post by Catman on May 19, 2020 23:00:21 GMT
On the planet Sunder when it was about to be destroyed by an anomaly that suddenly appeared above the planet, they ran around screaming and being hit by flying debris. A few (like Rho Bowman) were able to make it to shuttles and escape.
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Post by lowtacks86 on May 19, 2020 23:03:28 GMT
Build a space rocket and fly to Mars
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Post by dividavi on May 21, 2020 0:31:14 GMT
It’s an interesting concept, but the real question should be, “What would society do”? What will you do?
What would you do if you knew that Armageddon was going to happen in three months. Then imagine that everyone else on the planet is going to do the same thing. Suppose you want to visit GOZ in Alice Springs one more time. Who’s gonna fly there? The pilots aren’t working any more. The money you have in the bank is worthless. Farmers are no longer sending food to the market, so what are you going to eat? The toilet paper shortage is the least of your worries. How do you know that without any doubt whatsoever? If you're mistaken you'll look mighty foolish afterwards. Harold Camping looked stupid - and he was - because His prediction for May 21, 2011 was widely reported, in part because of a large-scale publicity campaign by Family Radio, and it prompted ridicule from atheist organizations and rebuttals from Christian organizations. After May 21 passed without the predicted events, Camping said he believed that a "spiritual" judgment had occurred on that date, and that the physical Rapture would occur on October 21, 2011, simultaneously with the final destruction of the universe by God. Except for one press appearance on May 23, 2011, Camping largely avoided press interviews after May 21, particularly after he suffered a stroke in June 2011. After October 21, 2011 passed without the predicted apocalypse, the mainstream media labeled Camping a false prophet and commented that his ministry would collapse after the "failed 'Doomsday' prediction". The same thing happened to Jerry Lewis in Hook, Line and Sinker.
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Post by thefleetsin on May 22, 2020 22:40:28 GMT
the black soot on your birthday suit
watching the religious scramble
for answers
during a pandemic
reminds me of a free clinic
back in the sixties
where there
were people so strung out
that they had
absolutely no doubt
of the visions they were seeing
all the while peeing
in their pants.
sjw 05/22/2020 inspired at this very moment in time by it's coming down to this.
from the 'blasphemy series' of poems
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Post by lunda2222 on May 27, 2020 5:29:22 GMT
Since this is the religion board, I'd like to point out that there was a religion that believed this was the case.
In Norse mythology, everything ends in the final battle, Ragnarok. There was no reprieve, no hope of victory, no afterlife after that. It was truly the end of everything.
But that didn't matter. The Gods and humans still fought on, doing everything in their power to win, regardless of hope.
I'd like to think we, whether we are scientists or not, would emulate that ideal.
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Post by Arlon10 on May 27, 2020 12:26:42 GMT
Lets say scientists discovered the "big one", like the Sun about to go Supernova in a few years, or two planets about to collide and propel huge fragments in all directions and wiping out life on Earth. Or anything along those lines? And lets say it's hopeless. Homo Sapiens are impossible to salvage. The species is extinct. The genus is extinct. Would they decide to relent for a change? Maybe decide "well, no sense in letting these dumb animals know. Lets feed them for a while and just wait for the end? Or would they be sadistic and gloat? Thus revealing how sadistic they've always been? What would they do? Pray two hours a day in robes and a hood.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on May 27, 2020 13:07:46 GMT
Lets say scientists discovered the "big one", like the Sun about to go Supernova in a few years, or two planets about to collide and propel huge fragments in all directions and wiping out life on Earth. Or anything along those lines? And lets say it's hopeless. Homo Sapiens are impossible to salvage. The species is extinct. The genus is extinct. Would they decide to relent for a change? Maybe decide "well, no sense in letting these dumb animals know. Lets feed them for a while and just wait for the end? Or would they be sadistic and gloat? Thus revealing how sadistic they've always been? What would they do? Giving Bruce Willis a call usually seems to work.
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Post by thefleetsin on May 27, 2020 19:09:31 GMT
remembering mom
nurses
have been fighting battles
long before
these pansies
wearing their military surplus jammies
popped up
to
expose us to a virus
affecting their craniums
long before
covid came along.
nurses,
doctors,
healthcare workers,
and now
swan songs.
who
all knew how to kick ass
and take names
sans parades.
sjw 05/27/2020 inspired at this very moment in time by my mom and all those nurses kicking ass.
from the 'benevolent series' of poems
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Post by rizdek on May 27, 2020 20:55:07 GMT
A few points.
IMHO KNOWING for sure that whatever was expected to happen was certain to happen and doom all of mankind (and I assume all other life on earth), seems very unlikely.
IOW, I doubt it will ever be like, say, the movies Armageddon or Deep Impact where astronomers know for sure weeks, months or even a year in advance that some object will definitely hit earth causing mass devastation. We see that even now, they see these objects approaching earth and don't know for sure exactly how close they'll come until just days before they sweep past.
So I think it would be the same as, say, some suspected massive change in the Sun like in the made for TV movie, Supernova where some astronomers suspected the sun is about to become unstable thus potentially destroying life on earth. Their calculations were complex and...uncertain. And in the movie... they turned out to be wrong.
And as far as some massive objects crashing into each other...again it is unlikely they'd know for certain that pieces of it would hit the earth and destroy the earth until just...days before it happened.
But regardless, given all the astronomers worldwide...including amateurs and the way info is shared on the internet, it is very unlikely that it could be kept secret. Some might think to keep it a secret, but others would think it their duty TO tell the world. And I'm guessing a lot of people would just disregard it as some quack conspiracy theory.
But, the title was...what would scientists do if there was no hope? That gets into MORE than just science. What does NO HOPE mean? Most people believe in some sort of afterlife, so they do have hope in that sense. And therefore, that would flavor their notion of what "the end of the world" actually means. IOW, to most people the end of the physical world doesn't mean the 'end of the world' in, say, a spiritual sense. And even many who don't believe in God or in an afterlife still believe that as long as there are people and needs, there is a duty to try to help meet those needs and would likely keep trying until the very end. I think the same thing that motivates people even though they all know that some day they'll die would continue to motivate people until the bitter end.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 21:32:21 GMT
One would hope (  ) they would do as Lunda suggested. In reality FatPaul's prediction is probably the most likely outcome. So, I'll predict a mixture of both answers i.e. that they will (in no particular order) shit their pants, panic and fight on using every tool at their disposal and every inch of their great brains to find a solution i.e. never give up until the end whenever that may be.. could be when the comet crashes, could be after the comet crashes, could be after they succeed in averting the catastrophe and it's business as usual for the world or it could be after a divine intervention manages to avert disaster prompting a resurgence of faith amongst the atheist section of the scientific world. |
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Post by captainbryce on May 30, 2020 2:25:17 GMT
It depends on what kind of scientist they are (and what kind of person they are in general). Most of them would continue doing science up until the end.
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) they would do as Lunda suggested. In reality FatPaul's prediction is probably the most likely outcome. So, I'll predict a mixture of both answers i.e. that they will (in no particular order) shit their pants, panic and fight on using every tool at their disposal and every inch of their great brains to find a solution i.e. never give up until the end whenever that may be.. could be when the comet crashes, could be after the comet crashes, could be after they succeed in averting the catastrophe and it's business as usual for the world or it could be after a divine intervention manages to avert disaster prompting a resurgence of faith amongst the atheist section of the scientific world.