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Post by Lucas on Feb 4, 2017 21:49:27 GMT
Eventually this will be very important indeed. The whole place is gonna need to be set up a little better with a thread for rules and guidelines etc...
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Post by Excellent Bulletproof Vest on Feb 4, 2017 21:55:48 GMT
Yes people can be banned and posts deleted. Who the moderators are should be decided democratically.
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Post by Lucas on Feb 5, 2017 0:13:33 GMT
Who are the moderators and site admins?? Can we nominate more? At the moment I believe we only have an Admin and you can find him here!
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2017 0:34:31 GMT
At the moment it's more or less a free-for-all, but if this board turns into something more than what it is now, it will definitely need moderating to some degree, and one person can't do it all. I agree with the above poster in that the moderators should be elected. The way I see it, this isn't my board - it's all of ours. We can't possibly please everyone, but for now, let's just let it roll and we can make adjustments on the fly until we find a nice balance that will please as many people as possible.  ps. MisandryMermaid: Yes, members can be banned and posts can be deleted.
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Post by j2 on Feb 5, 2017 2:35:14 GMT
Here we go again with the moderator bullshit, exactly the same fkin thing that has us all here today walking around like survivors from a train wreck, searching pathetically for bits and pieces; or do any of you doubt for a second that what imdb did to us all was one big FKED UP "moderation" right to our faces today? Like "okay if you won't ALL 100% behave I'm shutting down the place and nobody talks!", and they did!
Instead of stopping the damned PC bullshit and face the problems for what they really are, they chose to punish EVERYBODY out of spite for "trolls". Am I a fkin troll, are you one? So why are WE 'punished' for those?
So let's see, how would that work: when the 'moderator' is a 'liberal', is he going to "moderate" conservatives or anyone against his views and push them around until they have to shut up or leave from here too, or start creating 'troll' accounts instead just to f-up with the place? Likewise the other way around? If he's a homosexual, would he "moderate" anyone talking here against his (miserable) practice? Or an atheist against a believer, and so on? Or, would we fall for that same PC bullshit again and instead set hypocrisy "niceness" rules in order to not 'offend' anybody? It's exactly how 'trolling' begins.
So are you starting it again here, repeating the same damn crap? No learning, huh.
It's very good to know it in that case. Good to know what this place is really about, and then I would know what I have to do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 3:00:35 GMT
Yeah we don't need moderators. IMDb boards were great because there were no human moderators.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 3:02:40 GMT
Here we go again with the moderator bullshit, exactly the same fkin thing that has us all here today walking around like survivors from a train wreck, searching pathetically for bits and pieces; or do any of you doubt for a second that what imdb did to us all was one big FKED UP "moderation" right to our faces today? Like "okay if you won't ALL 100% behave I'm shutting down the place and nobody talks!", and they did! Instead of stopping the damned PC bullshit and face the problems for what they really are, they chose to punish EVERYBODY out of spite for "trolls". Am I a fkin troll, are you one? So why are WE 'punished' for those? So let's see, how would that work: when the 'moderator' is a 'liberal', is he going to "moderate" conservatives or anyone against his views and push them around until they have to shut up or leave from here too, or start creating 'troll' accounts instead just to f-up with the place? Likewise the other way around? If he's a homosexual, would he "moderate" anyone talking here against his (miserable) practice? Or an atheist against a believer, and so on? Or, would we fall for that same PC bullshit again and instead set hypocrisy "niceness" rules in order to not 'offend' anybody? It's exactly how 'trolling' begins. So are you starting it again here, repeating the same damn crap? No learning, huh. It's very good to know it in that case. Good to know what this place is really about, and then I would know what I have to do. Except that in this case we'd just ban the troublemakers (and be able to do so more quickly with human mods rather than bots) Human moderators are biased and they have their own agenda. Unless someone posts CP or doxxes a person there is no need for human moderation. There are codes for preventing spam from happening.
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2017 3:10:25 GMT
j2, when I said "to some degree," I didn't mean to imply any of what you just said. Moderators should definitely be impartial and should limit themselves only to enforcing direct violations of ProBoards' Terms of Service, and as far as I can tell, being offended is not cause for action.
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Post by ctown28 on Feb 5, 2017 3:11:13 GMT
I'm gonna agree with the Admin on this one. Right now everything is fine and if a need arises it can be done pretty quickly and wil Bea democratic process. I understand the concern about people being afraid a mod may overstep when someone disagrees with them, but if you get a quality mod, that won't be the case. I know I've molded forums in the past and made it a point to put my personal feelings aside when it comes to the duties. On the other hand I've seen mods get carried away and post things such as " if you post anything bad about <insert topic here> I'll just delete it. Those she the mods you don't want. It's a pretty common sense job.
Not to mention, I think it's possible to have specific mods for specific sections. It's a bit of a hassle to set it up, but it can be done rather quickly
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2017 3:16:29 GMT
Unless someone posts CP or doxxes a person there is no need for human moderation. That's actually a good example in support of moderation because there are people who would post CP, and so there needs to be people who would remove it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 3:21:04 GMT
Unless someone posts CP or doxxes a person there is no need for human moderation. That's actually a good example in support of moderation because there are people who would post CP, and so there needs to be people who would remove it. But only a full time idiot would do that. That is a sure fire way of getting imprisoned. I am sure no one ever dared to do that even on IMDb. Oh well. Let's see what happens. There are many other movie sites out there though.
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2017 3:24:42 GMT
I think it's possible to have specific mods for specific sections. That's kind of what I have in mind. I think for the most part, each forum has its own regular posters, some of which have probably been familiar with each other for quite some time. As such, they would know better than anyone who should moderate their particular corners of the board.
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2017 3:26:24 GMT
But only a full time idiot would do that. Yes, but there's no intelligence test in the registration process. 
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Post by Lucas on Feb 5, 2017 3:27:14 GMT
But only a full time idiot would do that. Yes, but there's no intelligence test in the registration process. Sadly.
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Post by ctown28 on Feb 5, 2017 3:28:54 GMT
I think it's possible to have specific mods for specific sections. That's kind of what I have in mind. I think for the most part, each forum has its own regular posters, some of which have probably been familiar with each other for quite some time. As such, they would know better than anyone who should moderate their particular corners of the board. If you need any help, let me know. I have some experience settings things like that up on a private board I run for Big Brother
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Post by Lucas on Feb 5, 2017 3:33:27 GMT
I'd be willing to take on something like the Now Playing and Upcoming Films forum but then again I'm also more than happy to not have to do anything rofl.
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Post by j2 on Feb 5, 2017 3:41:23 GMT
From definition and experience (set by internet examples with human interaction), for example, I'm a 'troublemaker' here already, because I'm speaking contrary to this very post itself and I'm facing the 'all-powerful' administrator himself in a direct way. I'm going against the crowd with my opinion.
Right now you all may be 'impartial' about me and about this whole thing because of course politics and diplomacy strongly suggest so (to build up the numbers), but if human arrogance and such other traits kicked in, it would be an entirely different story altogether, or am I wrong? It's almost 'human nature', I'd say.
Good luck finding a truly IMPARTIAL human moderator. Not gonna happen. If he's black he'll (>90% secretly) hate whites. If he's a white supremacist he'll want nothing to do with blacks and he'll (secretly) despise them... and so on and so forth. If he's none of those, speak in truth against what he loves right to his face, and see his "impartial" reaction then. Humans.
But it is as it is. I'm speaking exactly what I think here, now that I can do it while I can do it. I tried that same thing some hours back on imdb with my years old account (since 2002) and I got "moderated" there.
Keep in mind that 'forum maintenance' and ''moderation'' are two different things.
Let's see how 'political "correctness"' and 'democracy' will work here this time around. Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 3:44:24 GMT
From definition and experience (set by internet examples with human interaction), for example, I'm a 'troublemaker' here already, because I'm speaking contrary to this very post itself and I'm facing the 'all-powerful' administrator himself in a direct way. I'm going against the crowd with my opinion. Right now you all may be 'impartial' about me and about this whole thing because of course politics and diplomacy strongly suggest so (to build up the numbers), but if human arrogance and such other traits kicked in, it would be an entirely different story altogether, or am I wrong? It's almost 'human nature', I'd say. Good luck finding a truly IMPARTIAL human moderator. Not gonna happen. If he's black he'll (>90% secretly) hate whites. If he's a white supremacist he'll want nothing to do with blacks and he'll (secretly) despise them... and so on and so forth. If he's none of those, speak in truth against what he loves right to his face, and see his "impartial" reaction then. Humans. But it is as it is. I'm speaking exactly what I think here, now that I can do it while I can do it. I tried that same thing some hours back on imdb with my years old account (since 2002) and I got "moderated" there. Keep in mind that 'forum maintenance' and ''moderation'' are two different things. Let's see how 'political "correctness"' and 'democracy' will work here this time around. Cheers. well said. enjoy your ban.
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Post by ctown28 on Feb 5, 2017 4:12:10 GMT
Good luck finding a truly IMPARTIAL human moderator. Not gonna happen. If he's black he'll (>90% secretly) hate whites. If he's a white supremacist he'll want nothing to do with blacks and he'll (secretly) despise them... and so on and so forth. If he's none of those, speak in truth against what he loves right to his face, and see his "impartial" reaction then. Humans. Your claim here is the mods may "secretly" despise someone based on race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. So what if they secretly despise them, unless they act out on that, there is no problem. You seem intent and creating anew issue where none exists at this point. Is there a reason for such pessimism?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 4:36:57 GMT
Good luck finding a truly IMPARTIAL human moderator. Not gonna happen. If he's black he'll (>90% secretly) hate whites. If he's a white supremacist he'll want nothing to do with blacks and he'll (secretly) despise them... and so on and so forth. If he's none of those, speak in truth against what he loves right to his face, and see his "impartial" reaction then. Humans. Your claim here is the mods may "secretly" despise someone based on race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. So what if they secretly despise them, unless they act out on that, there is no problem. You seem intent and creating anew issue where none exists at this point. Is there a reason for such pessimism? No he is right. It will happen if we get human moderators here. I am sure there are users from imdb who can write a code like that in imdb with automated moderation here too....
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