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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 21, 2021 4:41:34 GMT
Yeah I've seen True Lies. Not really a fan of it. The action is great, but almost every character is annoying and the story ends up being more frustrating than anything else imo. I'd probably give it a 5/10. Well we are not on the same page LOL. I think True Lies is extremely entertaining and often very funny action movie. I don't find the characters annoying in a bad way, but I can sort of see where you are coming from. 8/10 for me. Not sure what you mean by the story being frustrating, but you don't have to explain your reason to me. The movie is a comedy the way I see it and part of why it works so well as a comedy I think is actually the reason you dislike it. Arnold is a douchebag in the movie who treats his family as if they are an inconvenience to him almost and this causes his goofy bored wife to find something elsewhere. The movie is about them becoming closer and the last act is a hilarious ending, where they are now 2 agents who work together. The comedy is one reason I dislike it. I think a lot of it feels pretty stale. The story just feels like it's building to something greater but instead chooses to fall to the least interesting thing happening in the world at the time - the couple's story. Not that it's an inherently bad idea, but (again) I find almost every character except Arnie's to be annoying, so naturally the development scenes won't land for me. It's like if a James Bond movie kept cutting away from/cutting back on the action scenes to focus on the story of 007 and some goofy Bond girl instead of getting to the inevitable big/ambitious stuff. To be fair, I've never been a fan of Cameron's writing of characters. You could practically copy/paste every one of my reviews for his movies with this: "Action = great; characters = annoying"
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 21, 2021 4:48:20 GMT
Well we are not on the same page LOL. I think True Lies is extremely entertaining and often very funny action movie. I don't find the characters annoying in a bad way, but I can sort of see where you are coming from. 8/10 for me. Not sure what you mean by the story being frustrating, but you don't have to explain your reason to me. The movie is a comedy the way I see it and part of why it works so well as a comedy I think is actually the reason you dislike it. Arnold is a douchebag in the movie who treats his family as if they are an inconvenience to him almost and this causes his goofy bored wife to find something elsewhere. The movie is about them becoming closer and the last act is a hilarious ending, where they are now 2 agents who work together. The comedy is one reason I dislike it. I think a lot of it feels pretty stale. The story just feels like it's building to something greater but instead chooses to fall to the least interesting thing happening in the world at the time - the couple's story. Not that it's an inherently bad idea, but (again) I find almost every character except Arnie's to be annoying, so naturally the development scenes won't land for me. It's like if a James Bond movie kept cutting away from/cutting back on the action scenes to focus on the story of 007 and some goofy Bond girl instead of getting to the inevitable big/ambitious stuff. To be fair, I've never been a fan of Cameron's writing of characters. You could practically copy/paste every one of my reviews for his movies with this: "Action = great; characters = annoying" That is funny. I like the movie so much for exact reasons you dislike it. I might just have a much different taste in character writing and comedy than you do in this case. It seems we find different things annoying, because very few James Cameron characters are annoying to me. I think his character writing is adequate and I am often a big fan of the general stories he writes. It is definitely his filmmaking where he is the best though and not just the action, but the tone of his movies and the fact that I find many of his movies have a emotional impact on me. I am actually not much of a James Bond fan, so maybe if they focused more on James Bond when he isn't doing James Bond stuff and focused on his domestic life in a comedic way I would be more of a fan. 
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 21, 2021 5:21:37 GMT
The comedy is one reason I dislike it. I think a lot of it feels pretty stale. The story just feels like it's building to something greater but instead chooses to fall to the least interesting thing happening in the world at the time - the couple's story. Not that it's an inherently bad idea, but (again) I find almost every character except Arnie's to be annoying, so naturally the development scenes won't land for me. It's like if a James Bond movie kept cutting away from/cutting back on the action scenes to focus on the story of 007 and some goofy Bond girl instead of getting to the inevitable big/ambitious stuff. To be fair, I've never been a fan of Cameron's writing of characters. You could practically copy/paste every one of my reviews for his movies with this: "Action = great; characters = annoying" That is funny. I like the movie so much for exact reasons you dislike it. I might just have a much different taste in character writing and comedy than you do in this case. It seems we find different things annoying, because very few James Cameron characters are annoying to me. I think his character writing is adequate and I am often a big fan of the general stories he writes. It is definitely his filmmaking where he is the best though and not just the action, but the tone of his movies and the fact that I find many of his movies have a emotional impact on me. I am actually not much of a James Bond fan, so maybe if they focused more on James Bond when he isn't doing James Bond stuff and focused on his domestic life in a comedic way I would be more of a fan. That’s fair. I guess it’s the character issue that settles it for us. The action is fantastic, though. Some really excellent scenes that rank with the best of any Cameron movie. |
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 21, 2021 5:36:59 GMT
That is funny. I like the movie so much for exact reasons you dislike it. I might just have a much different taste in character writing and comedy than you do in this case. It seems we find different things annoying, because very few James Cameron characters are annoying to me. I think his character writing is adequate and I am often a big fan of the general stories he writes. It is definitely his filmmaking where he is the best though and not just the action, but the tone of his movies and the fact that I find many of his movies have a emotional impact on me. I am actually not much of a James Bond fan, so maybe if they focused more on James Bond when he isn't doing James Bond stuff and focused on his domestic life in a comedic way I would be more of a fan. That’s fair. I guess it’s the character issue that settles it for us. The action is fantastic, though. Some really excellent scenes that rank with the best of any Cameron movie.We can agree on that. One James Cameron character I find annoying and unconvincingly acted is Bill Paxton in Aliens, one of his most popular characters with fans.
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Post by Downey on Apr 21, 2021 6:18:00 GMT
Can someone tell asshole moviemouth the 10 year old girl who private messaged me like the asshole she is bothering me about whether she should put me on ignore or not that I don't care about her replies mentioning me on this thread, thanks. There is no law that someone has to believe someone saying they've never watched Cliffhanger until recently.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 21, 2021 6:27:01 GMT
Can someone tell asshole moviemouth the 10 year old girl who private messaged me like the asshole she is bothering me about whether she should put me on ignore or not that I don't care about her replies mentioning me on this thread, thanks. There is no law that someone has to believe someone saying they've never watched Cliffhanger until recently. Why are you talking to 10 year old girls online? |
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Post by Downey on Apr 21, 2021 6:34:49 GMT
Can someone tell asshole moviemouth the 10 year old girl who private messaged me like the asshole she is bothering me about whether she should put me on ignore or not that I don't care about her replies mentioning me on this thread, thanks. There is no law that someone has to believe someone saying they've never watched Cliffhanger until recently. Why are you talking to 10 year old girls online? You obviously skipped the "who private messaged me" part of the sentence. Talking to a useless moviemouth wouldn't be an option if I could help it. |
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