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Post by moviemouth on Jul 12, 2020 20:35:19 GMT
That is a controversial opinion? The part where I implied it's better than Thin Red Line, or the part where I praised it beyond the opening? It's controversial depending on how snobby the crowd is. On that note, Ready Player One being messy is controversial? That movie was Lamesville. Both. It isn't controversial in general though as far as I can tell. The movie is generally liked/loved and liked better than The Thin Red Line. I go by the majority when it comes to what opinions are controversial, not just one faction of the public. Film buffs seem to prefer The Thin Red Line, but overall Saving Private Ryan is considered the better movie from everything I have heard. IMDB is generally a good way to tell what the overall public thinks of a movie imo. Based on the ratings, yes. Most people I have seen talk about Ready Player One on this site alone like it and think it is entertaining. It also has a fresh rating on RT and general audiences seem to like it. It has a 7.5/10 on IMDB.
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Post by jcush on Jul 12, 2020 20:46:22 GMT
Jaws is a horror movie. By 40 year old comedy standards, 1941 is cute and fun. He directed Poltergeist. Last Crusade is better than Raiders. Still not big on Temple. I liked the "I could have saved more" scene.The Lost World is the worst Jurassic Park film. Saving Private Ryan is good for the opening Normandy invasion...and then keeps being good. Best war movie of 1998. Lincoln was boring, The Post was forgettable, and War Horse was horseshit. I do too. When I was a kid Last Crusade was my favorite, but I prefer Raiders these days.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 12, 2020 20:53:05 GMT
The part where I implied it's better than Thin Red Line, or the part where I praised it beyond the opening? It's controversial depending on how snobby the crowd is. On that note, Ready Player One being messy is controversial? That movie was Lamesville. Both. It isn't controversial in general though. The movie is generally liked and liked better than The Thin Red Line. I go by the majority when it comes to what opinions are controversial, not just one faction of the public. Film buffs seem to generally prefer The Thin Red Line, but overall Saving Private Ryan is considered the better movie from everything I have heard. IMDB is generally a good way to tell what the overall public thinks of a movie imo. Based on the ratings, yes. Most people I have seen talk about Ready Player One on this site alone like it and think it is entertaining. It also has a fresh rating on RT and general audiences seem to like it. It has a 7.5/10 on IMDB. Well, we are on a film board. Granted, this one is a little more lax than, say, Oscar Buzz where I'd probably have to fear for my family's safety by picking Ryan over Line. Though it going downhill after the opening battle seems pretty universal. I do find it kinda ironic that my TLJ opinion was too weird, and now my SPR opinion is too general. A 72% on RT isn't that great for a mainstream blockbuster these days, and there was significant blowback to the movie for perceived gamergate stuff (I don't see it). And IMDb can be, but it can also not be. Going by that site, The Dark Knight Rises is the 70th most popular movie ever made.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 12, 2020 21:06:53 GMT
Both. It isn't controversial in general though. The movie is generally liked and liked better than The Thin Red Line. I go by the majority when it comes to what opinions are controversial, not just one faction of the public. Film buffs seem to generally prefer The Thin Red Line, but overall Saving Private Ryan is considered the better movie from everything I have heard. IMDB is generally a good way to tell what the overall public thinks of a movie imo. Based on the ratings, yes. Most people I have seen talk about Ready Player One on this site alone like it and think it is entertaining. It also has a fresh rating on RT and general audiences seem to like it. It has a 7.5/10 on IMDB. Well, we are on a film board. Granted, this one is a little more lax than, say, Oscar Buzz where I'd probably have to fear for my family's safety by picking Ryan over Line. Though it going downhill after the opening battle seems pretty universal. I do find it kinda ironic that my TLJ opinion was too weird, and now my SPR opinion is too general. A 72% on RT isn't that great for a mainstream blockbuster these days, and there was significant blowback to the movie for perceived gamergate stuff (I don't see it). And IMDb can be, but it can also not be. Going by that site, The Dark Knight Rises is the 70th most popular movie ever made. Going downhill after the opening is different than the opening being brilliant and the rest being very good. The latter is what even I think about the movie. It opens with one of the greatest scenes in movie history, obviously any movie is going to go "downhill" after that. Usually when I think of people saying a movie goes downhill they mean it isn't good. I have almost never seen someone say the movie becomes mediocre after the opening scene. This time I was just curious though, because I honestly thought that Saving Private Ryan being better than The Thin Red Line and that the entirety of Saving Private Ryan is very good was the majority opinion. I didn't say IMDB was perfect. It is far from perfect, but I think it gives a good idea of what the overall public thinks about a movie.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 12, 2020 21:18:26 GMT
Well, we are on a film board. Granted, this one is a little more lax than, say, Oscar Buzz where I'd probably have to fear for my family's safety by picking Ryan over Line. Though it going downhill after the opening battle seems pretty universal. I do find it kinda ironic that my TLJ opinion was too weird, and now my SPR opinion is too general. A 72% on RT isn't that great for a mainstream blockbuster these days, and there was significant blowback to the movie for perceived gamergate stuff (I don't see it). And IMDb can be, but it can also not be. Going by that site, The Dark Knight Rises is the 70th most popular movie ever made. Going downhill after the opening is different than the opening being brilliant and the rest being very good. The latter is what even I think about the movie. It opens with one of the greatest scenes in movie history, obviously any movie is going to go "downhill" after that. Usually when I think of people saying a movie goes downhill they mean it isn't good. I have almost never seen someone say the movie becomes mediocre after the opening scene. This time I was just curious though, because I honestly thought that Saving Private Ryan being better than The Thin Red Line and that the entirety of Saving Private Ryan is very good was the majority opinion. I didn't say IMDB was perfect. It is far from perfect, but I think it gives a good idea of what the overall public thinks about a movie. Perhaps it's a case of loud minority then.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 12, 2020 21:20:12 GMT
Going downhill after the opening is different than the opening being brilliant and the rest being very good. The latter is what even I think about the movie. It opens with one of the greatest scenes in movie history, obviously any movie is going to go "downhill" after that. Usually when I think of people saying a movie goes downhill they mean it isn't good. I have almost never seen someone say the movie becomes mediocre after the opening scene. This time I was just curious though, because I honestly thought that Saving Private Ryan being better than The Thin Red Line and that the entirety of Saving Private Ryan is very good was the majority opinion. I didn't say IMDB was perfect. It is far from perfect, but I think it gives a good idea of what the overall public thinks about a movie. Perhaps it's a case of loud minority then. That is usually the case from what I can tell. It is usually the haters that yell the loudest, because the minority has to yell the loudest in order to be heard. The majority often doesn't need to say anything, because the ratings and placements on lists and IMDB etc. already supports that their opinion is "correct."
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Post by dirtypillows on Jul 12, 2020 21:24:50 GMT
I didn't like "Schindler's List".
I wonder how many people think "Jaws" is Spielberg's best movie?
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 12, 2020 21:26:13 GMT
I didn't like "Schindler's List". I wonder how many people think "Jaws" is Spielberg's best movie?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 12, 2020 21:33:17 GMT
Spielberg cares about the feel of a movie more than the story meshing which is funny since the movies he writes are pert near narratively perfect.
However if a scene is cool it will win out over it being necessary.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 12, 2020 21:34:06 GMT
War of the Worlds has a perfect rendition of a little girl being stuck with a deadbeat dad running away from aliens.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 13, 2020 2:56:20 GMT
Saving Private Ryan LOOK SIR SHE REMINDS ME OF MY NIECE SIR is 2 exceptional bookends around a safe & rather forgettable war movie.
Not much of Spielberg is great after Minority Report. Sorry not sorry.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 13, 2020 2:58:58 GMT
The part where I implied it's better than Thin Red Line, or the part where I praised it beyond the opening? It's controversial depending on how snobby the crowd is. On that note, Ready Player One being messy is controversial? That movie was Lamesville. Both. It isn't controversial in general though as far as I can tell. The movie is generally liked/loved and liked better than The Thin Red Line. I go by the majority when it comes to what opinions are controversial, not just one faction of the public. Film buffs seem to prefer The Thin Red Line, but overall Saving Private Ryan is considered the better movie from everything I have heard. IMDB is generally a good way to tell what the overall public thinks of a movie imo. Based on the ratings, yes. Most people I have seen talk about Ready Player One on this site alone like it and think it is entertaining. It also has a fresh rating on RT and general audiences seem to like it. It has a 7.5/10 on IMDB. I think it's crazy that all these years later, both SPR & TTRL can't shake one another off in a discussion. All because they were released in the same year yes? TTRL was in production for how long...? At least it got Oscar votes for a Best Pic nom.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 13, 2020 3:06:02 GMT
Both. It isn't controversial in general though as far as I can tell. The movie is generally liked/loved and liked better than The Thin Red Line. I go by the majority when it comes to what opinions are controversial, not just one faction of the public. Film buffs seem to prefer The Thin Red Line, but overall Saving Private Ryan is considered the better movie from everything I have heard. IMDB is generally a good way to tell what the overall public thinks of a movie imo. Based on the ratings, yes. Most people I have seen talk about Ready Player One on this site alone like it and think it is entertaining. It also has a fresh rating on RT and general audiences seem to like it. It has a 7.5/10 on IMDB. I think it's crazy that all these years later, both SPR & TTRL can't shake one another off in a discussion. All because they were released in the same year yes? TTRL was in production for how long...? At least it got Oscar votes for a Best Pic nom. They are considered 2 of the best WWII movies ever made and they were nominated for Best Picture against eachother. I don't think it is crazy at all.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jul 13, 2020 3:19:49 GMT
Both. It isn't controversial in general though. The movie is generally liked and liked better than The Thin Red Line. I go by the majority when it comes to what opinions are controversial, not just one faction of the public. Film buffs seem to generally prefer The Thin Red Line, but overall Saving Private Ryan is considered the better movie from everything I have heard. IMDB is generally a good way to tell what the overall public thinks of a movie imo. Based on the ratings, yes. Most people I have seen talk about Ready Player One on this site alone like it and think it is entertaining. It also has a fresh rating on RT and general audiences seem to like it. It has a 7.5/10 on IMDB. Well, we are on a film board. Granted, this one is a little more lax than, say, Oscar Buzz where I'd probably have to fear for my family's safety by picking Ryan over Line. Though it going downhill after the opening battle seems pretty universal. I do find it kinda ironic that my TLJ opinion was too weird, and now my SPR opinion is too general. Ryan has the edge here
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 3:56:48 GMT
I suppose my biggest hot take on Spielberg is that his films do not connect with me emotionally despite trying their best to get a response.
As a kid, sure, I probably teared up when ET came back to life. As a possibly cynical adult, I find most of his work just too ham-fisted to legitimately feel much about it. It feels very superficial yet meant to broadly appeal. It's perhaps difficult to put into words but there are creators who lay out a scenario to see what feeling it invokes and there are creators who lay out a scenario to invoke a specific feeling. The former can resonate with you more strongly as you suss out your own thoughts and the latter can feel like a parlor trick. Spielberg is more of the latter to me.
That's not necessarily a bad thing-- most films are aiming to get an emotional response through story and music and visuals, all of that-- but I find Spielberg to be one of the less subtle about it.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Jul 13, 2020 13:21:49 GMT
The Lost World: Jurassic Park is more suspenseful and more action packed than Jurassic Park. Better characters and the dinos had a meaner attitude that I like. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is too similar to Raiders of the Lost Ark, they were trying to recreate the first movie again. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom was more original, and is more iconic today.
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Post by ck100 on Jul 13, 2020 13:29:48 GMT
I suppose my biggest hot take on Spielberg is that his films do not connect with me emotionally despite trying their best to get a response. As a kid, sure, I probably teared up when ET came back to life. As a possibly cynical adult, I find most of his work just too ham-fisted to legitimately feel much about it. It feels very superficial yet meant to broadly appeal. It's perhaps difficult to put into words but there are creators who lay out a scenario to see what feeling it invokes and there are creators who lay out a scenario to invoke a specific feeling. The former can resonate with you more strongly as you suss out your own thoughts and the latter can feel like a parlor trick. Spielberg is more of the latter to me. That's not necessarily a bad thing-- most films are aiming to get an emotional response through story and music and visuals, all of that-- but I find Spielberg to be one of the less subtle about it. That's always been a criticism about Spielberg. That he's shamelessly sentimental.
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Post by angel on Jul 14, 2020 12:52:50 GMT
Interstellar would have been a better film if Spielberg had directed it (as was originally intended) instead of Nolan.
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Post by sostie on Jul 14, 2020 17:04:20 GMT
Close Encounters was the best science fiction film released in 1977 and had the best effects
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Post by MCDemuth on Jul 14, 2020 17:23:49 GMT
Close Encounters was the best science fiction film released in 1977 and had the best effects \ Is that really an " Unpopular/Controversial" Opinion? I've never really heard of anyone implying the opposite... Except for "Star Wars", and not everyone is a fan of those films.
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