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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 20, 2020 20:04:57 GMT
Hellraiser
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 20, 2020 20:06:23 GMT
I found Hellraiser rather boring to be honest.
Never been intrigued to rewatch it.
Pinhead has to be the most hyped up and now forgotten 80s horror character.
"Eurotrash demon."
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Post by Marv on Aug 20, 2020 20:08:14 GMT
Nightmare on Elm Street for me vs any other series.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Aug 20, 2020 22:17:47 GMT
Nightmare on Elm Street but I love both.
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Post by James on Aug 20, 2020 22:21:20 GMT
NOES for the original film and overall series.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 20, 2020 22:24:32 GMT
A Nightmare on Elm Street
I am not a fan of the Hellraiser franchise at all.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Aug 20, 2020 22:26:03 GMT
Pinhead has to be the most hyped up and now forgotten 80s horror character. He’s not forgotten.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 20, 2020 22:43:08 GMT
But down the list from Freddy, Jason, Michael, Chucky, the Tall Man, Ash... Granted he did come onto the scene at the end of the decade but I don't think he caught fire in remembrance like he was promoted at the time "Clive Barker's Pinhead." Then again I guess it is more of a UK production than American so it lacked the PR boost.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 20, 2020 22:44:43 GMT
A Nightmare on Elm Street I am not a fan of the Hellraiser franchise at all. The first two are pretty good. It goes downhill quite a bit from there though.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 20, 2020 22:46:31 GMT
Hellraiser has a better first sequel, but no competition between the first one or overall franchise.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 20, 2020 22:48:57 GMT
But down the list from Freddy, Jason, Michael, Chucky, the Tall Man, Ash... Granted he did come onto the scene at the end of the decade but I don't think he caught fire in remembrance like he was promoted at the time "Clive Barker's Pinhead." Then again I guess it is more of a UK production than American so it lacked the PR boost.
Would you put him on par with Leatherface?
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 20, 2020 22:54:51 GMT
Would you put him on par with Leatherface? No because Leatherface was from the early 70s so he had more time to establish himself as a horror icon and a chainsaw is his weapon
Pinhead is more like a Freddy--supernatural--actor-driven performance with makeup, but he isn't fun. He's unemotional and distant. At least that is how he seems to me. Him and the other Cennobites-I recall them just standing around with their goth sensibilities... maybe it was how he was utilized--what if he was showing up in someone's bedroom or a summer camp, it would have been different. I always remember him standing in some dark room holding a rubik's cube type thing...
"They OPENED the G A T E!"
etc
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 20, 2020 22:55:53 GMT
A Nightmare on Elm Street I am not a fan of the Hellraiser franchise at all. The first two are pretty good. It goes downhill quite a bit from there though. I disagree. The first is okay, the second is terrible. They are sick and depressing movies imo. The first is undeniably creepy, I'll give it that. Bloodline is sort of a guilty pleasure.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 20, 2020 22:57:21 GMT
Would you put him on par with Leatherface? No because Leatherface was from the early 70s so he had more time to establish himself as a horror icon and a chainsaw is his weapon
Pinhead is more like a Freddy--supernatural--actor-driven performance with makeup, but he isn't fun. He's unemotional and distant. At least that is how he seems to me. Him and the other Cennobites-I recall them just standing around with their goth sensibilities... maybe it was how he was utilized--what if he was showing up in someone's bedroom or a summer camp, it would have been different. I always remember him standing in some dark room holding a rubik's cube type thing...
"They OPENED the G A T E!"
etc
They are scary, but boring.
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Post by jcush on Aug 20, 2020 23:10:44 GMT
I've only seen the first Hellraiser, but I like the original Nightmare on Elm Street a lot more.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 20, 2020 23:57:13 GMT
But down the list from Freddy, Jason, Michael, Chucky, the Tall Man, Ash... Granted he did come onto the scene at the end of the decade but I don't think he caught fire in remembrance like he was promoted at the time "Clive Barker's Pinhead." Then again I guess it is more of a UK production than American so it lacked the PR boost.
Are you suggesting that the Tall Man is more remembered than Pinhead? If so, what is your justification?
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 21, 2020 0:19:42 GMT
Are you suggesting that the Tall Man is more remembered than Pinhead? If so, what is your justification? Not remembered more but more favorably despite much less exposure.
Maybe because it is an actor-driven performance with no fancy makeup.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 21, 2020 0:22:49 GMT
Are you suggesting that the Tall Man is more remembered than Pinhead? If so, what is your justification? Not remembered more but more favorably despite much less exposure.
Maybe because it is an actor-driven performance with no fancy makeup.
I don't buy that. I'd say they are both loved equally within the horror community. I could be wrong, but nobody will be able to convince me of it. I suppose a poll on the horror board might give me some idea.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 21, 2020 0:26:25 GMT
I don't buy that. I'd say they are both loved equally within the horror community. I could be wrong, but nobody will be able to convince me of it. Maybe if I went to a horror convention and asked every person there which villain they prefer. I don't care if you do or don't, or whether it can be scientifically proven or not.
I would bet however that on average Angus Scrimm is better known in horror appreciation circles than Doug Bradley. Whether you want to go out and conduct a survey is entirely up to you.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 21, 2020 0:28:08 GMT
I don't buy that. I'd say they are both loved equally within the horror community. I could be wrong, but nobody will be able to convince me of it. Maybe if I went to a horror convention and asked every person there which villain they prefer. I don't care if you do or don't, or whether it can be scientifically proven or not.
I would bet however that on average Angus Scrimm is better known in horror appreciation circles than Doug Bradley. Whether you want to go out and conduct a survey is entirely up to you.
I don't care enough to do that.  You can just have this one.
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