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Post by Nora on Sept 29, 2020 22:51:24 GMT
well so its one herniated and one bulging disc causing spinal stenosis going to see a spinal neurosurgeon to see my options later today. i really hope there are some non surgical options left. edit: so the recommendtation for surgery is here. i have about 2 weeks to decide :// Yes, those spasms are very painful. If it can be treated with injections I would try that first. I have stenosis and arthritis but I never knew until the doctor saw it when giving me an injection so the insurance company decided for me. they are going to fly me and my husband to europe first class where i can lay down and then from the airport to the hospital in an ambulance directly. once i am in europe i am covered under the national plan and i can go to the best hospital whatever network and get whatever surgery or procedure done without any bills. plus my parents are there which is good for mental comfort. so even though I am not loving the idea of a) flying with this condition and b) flying into second wave of pandemic thats currently raging in europe. but it is what it is...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 0:47:50 GMT
Yes, those spasms are very painful. If it can be treated with injections I would try that first. I have stenosis and arthritis but I never knew until the doctor saw it when giving me an injection so the insurance company decided for me. they are going to fly me and my husband to europe first class where i can lay down and then from the airport to the hospital in an ambulance directly. once i am in europe i am covered under the national plan and i can go to the best hospital whatever network and get whatever surgery or procedure done without any bills. plus my parents are there which is good for mental comfort. so even though I am not loving the idea of a) flying with this condition and b) flying into second wave of pandemic thats currently raging in europe. but it is what it is... I'm glad you won'thave medical bills to worry about on top of everything else. Keep us posted!
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Post by moonchild on Sept 30, 2020 23:59:58 GMT
Yes, those spasms are very painful. If it can be treated with injections I would try that first. I have stenosis and arthritis but I never knew until the doctor saw it when giving me an injection so the insurance company decided for me. they are going to fly me and my husband to europe first class where i can lay down and then from the airport to the hospital in an ambulance directly. once i am in europe i am covered under the national plan and i can go to the best hospital whatever network and get whatever surgery or procedure done without any bills. plus my parents are there which is good for mental comfort. so even though I am not loving the idea of a) flying with this condition and b) flying into second wave of pandemic thats currently raging in europe. but it is what it is... Wow! Sounds like you're going to get fixed up really well. That's good, Nora. How did you hurt your back?
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Post by Nora on Oct 1, 2020 0:00:57 GMT
so the insurance company decided for me. they are going to fly me and my husband to europe first class where i can lay down and then from the airport to the hospital in an ambulance directly. once i am in europe i am covered under the national plan and i can go to the best hospital whatever network and get whatever surgery or procedure done without any bills. plus my parents are there which is good for mental comfort. so even though I am not loving the idea of a) flying with this condition and b) flying into second wave of pandemic thats currently raging in europe. but it is what it is... I'm glad you won'thave medical bills to worry about on top of everything else. Keep us posted! will do! I never had any surgery and never packed for a hospital stay so that was an odd experience for me today. and yes I am bringing my favorite toilet paper with me. its called priorities
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Post by Nora on Oct 1, 2020 0:03:13 GMT
so the insurance company decided for me. they are going to fly me and my husband to europe first class where i can lay down and then from the airport to the hospital in an ambulance directly. once i am in europe i am covered under the national plan and i can go to the best hospital whatever network and get whatever surgery or procedure done without any bills. plus my parents are there which is good for mental comfort. so even though I am not loving the idea of a) flying with this condition and b) flying into second wave of pandemic thats currently raging in europe. but it is what it is... Wow! Sounds like you're going to get fixed up really well. That's good, Nora. How did you hurt your back? thats the part i dont know. there was no injury no fall no nasty motion i would have done and feel it hurt, nothing. just one day two weeks ago during the day a somewhat mild but new pain started to shoot down my left leg, and then overnight it got So Bad (even though I gulped down a bottle of otc painkillers), that I had to go to urgent care. But all I did that day was a very light walk and the laundry but dont remember any heavy lifting or anything like that. so who knows. it must have been there for some time and just now said “enough”.
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Post by moonchild on Oct 1, 2020 0:10:11 GMT
Wow! Sounds like you're going to get fixed up really well. That's good, Nora. How did you hurt your back? thats the part i dont know. there was no injury no fall no nasty motion i would have done and feel it hurt, nothing. just one day two weeks ago during the day a somewhat mild but new pain started to shoot down my left leg, and then overnight it got So Bad (even though I gulped down a bottle of otc painkillers), that I had to go to urgent care. But all I did that day was a very light walk and the laundry but dont remember any heavy lifting or anything like that. so who knows. it must have been there for some time and just now said “enough”. That's something that it just happened. with me I fell on my butt the asphalt while on skates. Really hurt, but what cinched it is, I twisted on the toilet seat one morning because I hadn't put it on right
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Post by Nora on Oct 1, 2020 0:16:15 GMT
thats the part i dont know. there was no injury no fall no nasty motion i would have done and feel it hurt, nothing. just one day two weeks ago during the day a somewhat mild but new pain started to shoot down my left leg, and then overnight it got So Bad (even though I gulped down a bottle of otc painkillers), that I had to go to urgent care. But all I did that day was a very light walk and the laundry but dont remember any heavy lifting or anything like that. so who knows. it must have been there for some time and just now said “enough”. That's something that it just happened. with me I fell on my butt the asphalt while on skates. Really hurt, but what cinched it is, I twisted on the toilet seat one morning because I hadn't put it on right yeah being on the toilet with bad back is actually pretty tricky. like wiping is now a source of pain, let alone any other motions there. cant wait for this to be over. fingers crossed it will be.
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Post by moonchild on Oct 1, 2020 0:18:56 GMT
That's something that it just happened. with me I fell on my butt the asphalt while on skates. Really hurt, but what cinched it is, I twisted on the toilet seat one morning because I hadn't put it on right yeah being on the toilet with bad back is actually pretty tricky. like wiping is now a source of pain, let alone any other motions there. cant wait for this to be over. fingers crossed it will be. Yes, it will be quite a relief to no longer have to deal with all that pain
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Post by Nora on Oct 4, 2020 17:03:18 GMT
I am really impressed with the general quality of advice and knowledge I got in this thread. Now in Europe at the hospital of my choice, after seeing 2 neurosurgeons, 2 neurologists, and consilting with 3 more doctors the treatment is gonna be pretty much what you told me it would be. I am on IV now to flush my system with some more antiinflamatory and analgetic drugs, then they are going to do epidural/corticoid injections several people here mentioned and also combined with physiotherapy I will stay at the hospitak for 7-10 days and then if my pain stays and loss od sensitivity improves I don need surgery and if pain goes and sensitivity stays or gets worse I am gonna get a microdisectomy: www.healthline.com/health/microdiscectomyThank you all for your help, it really made me feel better.
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Post by Nora on Oct 11, 2020 17:53:50 GMT
The injections really saved me, I was getting painful spasms I have a question - what was the change in pain you felt between the 3 injections? Did you experience more and more relief with each one or did it bounce around? I got mine on thursday and on friday I felt pretty good, so I tried to stop taking the painkillers and while saturday was “ok” today is not so great again. Granted, its Much better than before but the pain is still quite noticable - without the pills. Whereas before it was 9 now its 4 during the day and 5-6 in the evening (when I move around and am not on pills). How was it for you after injection 1?
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Post by moonchild on Oct 11, 2020 22:40:37 GMT
The injections really saved me, I was getting painful spasms I have a question - what was the change in pain you felt between the 3 injections? Did you experience more and more relief with each one or did it bounce around? I got mine on thursday and on friday I felt pretty good, so I tried to stop taking the painkillers and while saturday was “ok” today is not so great again. Granted, its Much better than before but the pain is still quite noticable - without the pills. Whereas before it was 9 now its 4 during the day and 5-6 in the evening (when I move around and am not on pills). How was it for you after injection 1? I was still feeling pain so I went to get more injections. After 3 the pain was gone. Using a cold compress helps with the pain also
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Post by autumn on Oct 13, 2020 1:47:01 GMT
I am really impressed with the general quality of advice and knowledge I got in this thread. Now in Europe at the hospital of my choice, after seeing 2 neurosurgeons, 2 neurologists, and consilting with 3 more doctors the treatment is gonna be pretty much what you told me it would be. I am on IV now to flush my system with some more antiinflamatory and analgetic drugs, then they are going to do epidural/corticoid injections several people here mentioned and also combined with physiotherapy I will stay at the hospitak for 7-10 days and then if my pain stays and loss od sensitivity improves I don need surgery and if pain goes and sensitivity stays or gets worse I am gonna get a microdisectomy: www.healthline.com/health/microdiscectomyThank you all for your help, it really made me feel better. Just wanted to let you know that a microdiscectomy is a pretty simple procedure as far as back surgeries go, and the recovery tends to be pretty quick. The incision is very small by comparison to other procedures. Some even use laser for this work. I'm not sure what they'll use for yours. But they go in and gently remove the part of your disc, which is a tough, fibrous part of collagen tissue that you have between all your discs, which is bulging through between your vertebrae and putting pressure on your nerves. They will probably keep you a day or two (again, depending on what or how they're doing this). They will have you walking the same day! While the pain immediately post-op may feel intense, they will provide acute pain med relief, and you'll be surprised at just how quickly you'll be up and around. They'll put you right into rehab exercising programs, and probably at home as well (and it's a good idea to continue for a while, and your doctor and physiotherapists will guide you with the correct instructions for you). That initial pain will pass quicker than you think, and you will be swiftly on the mend within several days! As far as the meds that you are worried about, you probably won't need them for very long. They're there to help you when you do need them, and they're also there to help you get through the exercises that will help you heal stronger because you also don't want scar tissue to form. That's in your hands, and your medical team will provide that information for you. You're in good hands, and remember, you will bounce back quickly! Of all the procedures to be done, this is one of the quickest, and least invasive. Hang in there, and keep us informed. ((hugs)) ***TYPICAL DISCLAIMER: I'm not a doc, blah blah blah, I'm just a poster, etc., and so forth ***
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Post by maya55555 on Oct 13, 2020 1:49:33 GMT
Yes, it flares up now and then.
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Post by Nora on Oct 13, 2020 6:11:56 GMT
I am really impressed with the general quality of advice and knowledge I got in this thread. Now in Europe at the hospital of my choice, after seeing 2 neurosurgeons, 2 neurologists, and consilting with 3 more doctors the treatment is gonna be pretty much what you told me it would be. I am on IV now to flush my system with some more antiinflamatory and analgetic drugs, then they are going to do epidural/corticoid injections several people here mentioned and also combined with physiotherapy I will stay at the hospitak for 7-10 days and then if my pain stays and loss od sensitivity improves I don need surgery and if pain goes and sensitivity stays or gets worse I am gonna get a microdisectomy: www.healthline.com/health/microdiscectomyThank you all for your help, it really made me feel better. Just wanted to let you know that a microdiscectomy is a pretty simple procedure as far as back surgeries go, and the recovery tends to be pretty quick. The incision is very small by comparison to other procedures. Some even use laser for this work. I'm not sure what they'll use for yours. But they go in and gently remove the part of your disc, which is a tough, fibrous part of collagen tissue that you have between all your discs, which is bulging through between your vertebrae and putting pressure on your nerves. They will probably keep you a day or two (again, depending on what or how they're doing this). They will have you walking the same day! While the pain immediately post-op may feel intense, they will provide acute pain med relief, and you'll be surprised at just how quickly you'll be up and around. They'll put you right into rehab exercising programs, and probably at home as well (and it's a good idea to continue for a while, and your doctor and physiotherapists will guide you with the correct instructions for you). That initial pain will pass quicker than you think, and you will be swiftly on the mend within several days! As far as the meds that you are worried about, you probably won't need them for very long. They're there to help you when you do need them, and they're also there to help you get through the exercises that will help you heal stronger because you also don't want scar tissue to form. That's in your hands, and your medical team will provide that information for you. You're in good hands, and remember, you will bounce back quickly! Of all the procedures to be done, this is one of the quickest, and least invasive. Hang in there, and keep us informed. ((hugs)) ***TYPICAL DISCLAIMER: I'm not a doc, blah blah blah, I'm just a poster, etc., and so forth *** thank you, that sounds good. i was released from the hospital yesterday now self isolating in a hotel as covid is SOARING through Europe tjese days, will wait 5 days; then get a test and only then will see my parents. I want to make SURE I am not bringing it to them. I had my first night without a pain killer today and I am SO happy about it I could dance... it I could dance
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