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Dec 31, 2020 1:53:10 GMT
Post by SciFive on Dec 31, 2020 1:53:10 GMT
My Masters is in Computer Science, not Physics. 
Judaism believes in the very creator who created time, space, the laws of physics, evolution, etc.
If you don't like it, you can lump it.
No one is asking you to believe in God.
Judaism believes in the God who created the Laws of Physics and evolution.
This is why the two ideas (God and science) are not incompatible.
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Dec 31, 2020 1:59:36 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 31, 2020 1:59:36 GMT
Judaism believes in the God who created the Laws of Physics and evolution.
This is why the two ideas (God and science) are not incompatible.
Judaism can believe what it likes. The idea of God and science are, however incompatible as you have said many times on here, due to the incontravertible premise of science ( including physics) and proof......which you have overly many times said on here. Are you now denying what you said so many times?
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Dec 31, 2020 2:21:06 GMT
Post by SciFive on Dec 31, 2020 2:21:06 GMT
Judaism believes in the God who created the Laws of Physics and evolution.
This is why the two ideas (God and science) are not incompatible.
Judaism can believe what it likes. The idea of God and science are, however incompatible.... Not when you believe in the God who created the Laws of Physics.
Then the belief in God and the Laws of Physics are quite compatible.
There's nothing you can do about it.
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Dec 31, 2020 2:27:39 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 31, 2020 2:27:39 GMT
Judaism can believe what it likes. The idea of God and science are, however incompatible.... Not when you believe in the God who created the Laws of Physics.
Then the belief in God and the Laws of Physics are quite compatible.
There's nothing you can do about it.
...except prove the claim that God created the Laws Of Physics which you already can't[/] because you have already claimed ( in this thread and elsewhere ) that neither God's existence or his lack of exisence can be proven..
so a non proven identity COULDN'T have created the Laws of Physics
Check Mate.
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Dec 31, 2020 2:32:35 GMT
Post by SciFive on Dec 31, 2020 2:32:35 GMT
Not when you believe in the God who created the Laws of Physics.
Then the belief in God and the Laws of Physics are quite compatible.
There's nothing you can do about it. Judaism believes in the God who created the Laws of Physics along with the universe.
There nothing you can do about it!!!
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Dec 31, 2020 2:35:44 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 31, 2020 2:35:44 GMT
Judaism believes in the God who created the Laws of Physics along with the universe.
There nothing you can do about it!!!
Except easily prove with scientific method that it like is likely wrong, according to those very physics-based and scientifically based precepts.... or as you have said a million times...prove that there is NO evidence to the contrary.
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Dec 31, 2020 2:40:13 GMT
Post by SciFive on Dec 31, 2020 2:40:13 GMT
Judaism believes in the God who created the Laws of Physics along with the universe.
There nothing you can do about it!!! It's none of your business what people think.
No one is asking you to believe anything except that four books exist (which is proven if you go to Amazon.com), but no one is asking you to believe in God. So the burden of proof is not on Judaism.
Mind your own damn business when it comes to other people's thoughts.
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Dec 31, 2020 2:44:08 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 31, 2020 2:44:08 GMT
It's none of your business what people think.
Stop try to be a Thought Police Good Squad.
No one is asking you to believe anything except that four books exist (which is proven if you go to Amazon.com), but no one is asking you to believe in God.
So mind your own damn business when it comes to other people's thoughts.
What people think or believe is none of my business. What is truth and logic and physics and science, however....is. Disprove this at your peril .
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Dec 31, 2020 2:50:04 GMT
Post by SciFive on Dec 31, 2020 2:50:04 GMT
It's none of your business what people think.
Stop trying to be a Thought Police Good Squad.
No one is asking you to believe anything except that four books exist (which is proven if you go to Amazon.com), but no one is asking you to believe in God.
So mind your own damn business when it comes to other people's thoughts. People are allowed to think freely whether you like it or not.
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Dec 31, 2020 2:50:36 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 31, 2020 2:50:36 GMT
People are allowed to think freely whether you like it or not.
yes
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 31, 2020 3:07:52 GMT
It lies on the person making a truth claim.
Atheists have a burden of proof if they are claiming that there is no God. Most atheists aren't egotistical enough to make that claim.
The base belief is that there is a reality that we all share and anyone making a claim that adds something to that has the burden of proof.
The answer to what caused the universe we live in to begin is "nobody knows."
It is even up for debate whether our universe had a beginning or not. We can only trace back to a few moments after the big bang. Anything about what was "before" or what "caused" or what is "outside of" this universe is nothing more than speculation.
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Dec 31, 2020 3:33:15 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 31, 2020 3:33:15 GMT
It lies on the person making a truth claim. Atheists have a burden of proof if they are claiming that there is no God. Most atheists aren't egotistical enough to make that claim. The base belief is that there is a reality that we all share and anyone making a claim that adds something to that has the burden of proof. The answer to what caused the universe we live in to begin is "nobody knows." It is even up for debate whether our universe had a beginning or not. We can only trace back to a few moments after the big bang. Anything about what was "before" or what "caused" or what is "outside of" this universe is nothing more than speculation.
True, and those who believe there is something special in all this are free to have their thoughts. |
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Dec 31, 2020 3:39:52 GMT
Post by moviemouth on Dec 31, 2020 3:39:52 GMT
It lies on the person making a truth claim. Atheists have a burden of proof if they are claiming that there is no God. Most atheists aren't egotistical enough to make that claim. The base belief is that there is a reality that we all share and anyone making a claim that adds something to that has the burden of proof. The answer to what caused the universe we live in to begin is "nobody knows." It is even up for debate whether our universe had a beginning or not. We can only trace back to a few moments after the big bang. Anything about what was "before" or what "caused" or what is "outside of" this universe is nothing more than speculation.
True, and those who believe there is something special in all this are free to have their thoughts.Obviously. There are atheists who believe in ghosts and stuff like that. I am first and foremost a skeptic, my atheism is a result of that. The problem comes in when theists are using their belief in God to enforce rules and laws based on that belief.
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Dec 31, 2020 5:03:05 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 31, 2020 5:03:05 GMT
You are speaking from ignorance because you haven't read the books.
You're also speaking from hostility and intolerance.
The argument is not dependant on having read ANYONE's books. It is one of fact that physics isn't based on any God or other supernatural power...only natural forces.
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Dec 31, 2020 5:04:48 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 31, 2020 5:04:48 GMT
Imagine this...
The creator of the universe creates time, space, the laws of physics, evolution, etc.
Science is an explanation of how all this works (as much as humans can explain it so far).
If you don't like the idea, you can lump it.
Wow! You have made a claim..despite never saying you would.... now YOU prove it because physicas and science...DOESN'T and CAN'T be proven using physics as you have said all along in this thread and elsewhere and forever .
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Dec 31, 2020 5:06:24 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 31, 2020 5:06:24 GMT
It lies on the person making a truth claim. Atheists have a burden of proof if they are claiming that there is no God. Most atheists aren't egotistical enough to make that claim. The base belief is that there is a reality that we all share and anyone making a claim that adds something to that has the burden of proof. The answer to what caused the universe we live in to begin is "nobody knows." It is even up for debate whether our universe had a beginning or not. We can only trace back to a few moments after the big bang. Anything about what was "before" or what "caused" or what is "outside of" this universe is nothing more than speculation.
True, and those who believe there is something special in all this are free to have their thoughts. Yes. Now PROVE the claim you made that God created the universe using physics. After all your shit, I can't believe you made a claim LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Dec 31, 2020 5:07:53 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 31, 2020 5:07:53 GMT
It lies on the person making a truth claim. Atheists have a burden of proof if they are claiming that there is no God. Most atheists aren't egotistical enough to make that claim. The base belief is that there is a reality that we all share and anyone making a claim that adds something to that has the burden of proof. The answer to what caused the universe we live in to begin is "nobody knows." It is even up for debate whether our universe had a beginning or not. We can only trace back to a few moments after the big bang. Anything about what was "before" or what "caused" or what is "outside of" this universe is nothing more than speculation.
True, and those who believe there is something special in all this are free to have their thoughts. YES, but NOT to assert in a claim that you have previously said was unprovable that God made the universe and that is was NOT from natural causes.
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Dec 31, 2020 7:39:26 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 31, 2020 7:39:26 GMT
Imagine this...
The creator of the universe creates time, space, the laws of physics, evolution, etc.
Science is an explanation of how all this works (as much as humans can explain it so far).
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Does goz know the meaning of the word “imagine”?
LOL
Apoarently not.
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Dec 31, 2020 7:40:42 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 31, 2020 7:40:42 GMT
Imagine this... The creator of the universe creates time, space, the laws of physics, evolution, etc. Science is an explanation of how all this works (as much as humans can explain it so far). ——————— Does goz know the meaning of the word “imagine”? LOL Apoarently not. Imagine and facts of physics are incompatible.
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Dec 31, 2020 7:45:40 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 31, 2020 7:45:40 GMT
Asking someone to imagine a set of beliefs is not a demand that they believe in God.
The set of beliefs exists.
Anti-religion freaks try to chase down thoughts like rabid dogs.
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