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Dec 28, 2020 23:04:43 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 23:04:43 GMT
goz Cite the Law of Physics that allows “nature” to exist without a cause because it’s “natural”. If the natural world is immortal, then it’s godlike. There’s no escape except that religious people don’t call you stupid. Sweet Baby Jeebus on a Tricycle! Since there isn't one 'sole' one this would be impossible. *  * It also involves complex interactions with chemistry et al you ignoramus for even asking such a stupid question. Definitions are important here. The way I see it this statement is bullshit. There are times when I think you must drunk post, and then again I think you are just insane.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:06:51 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 23:06:51 GMT
gozIt goes against the Laws of Physics for a universe to exist without a cause. Just so you know. If the universe is immortal, then it is godlike.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:07:21 GMT
Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 28, 2020 23:07:21 GMT
“Here is why...... “ comes with ZERO PROOF. Yeah nobody on here is claiming they can disprove god, in the same way they can't disprove outer space leprechauns. This has already been explained to you.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:09:29 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 23:09:29 GMT
Calling people irrational, etc, is ad hominem, by the way. You aren’t God so you don’t know people’s minds. You are hostile, though. It’s your way. Just like 'slander' it is not an ad hominem if true.  Your own words are ever reinforcing this concept. LOL at the idea of me being God......insane since you know what I think about the god concept.......LOL. Hostile? I would say honest in debate is a more appropriate epithet.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:09:48 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 23:09:48 GMT
No one can prove that believers are wrong about God existing.
The people who call them names although they can’t prove them wrong are not nice people.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:11:03 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 23:11:03 GMT
goz It goes against the Laws of Physics for a universe to exist without a cause. Just so you know. If the universe is immortal, then it is godlike. Really? Citations required and a full explanation of this claim. and this next really stupid one! LOL
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Dec 28, 2020 23:11:13 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 23:11:13 GMT
gozI am being dead honest when I say you’re hostile and a (well, no need to repeat the word).
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Dec 28, 2020 23:13:07 GMT
Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 28, 2020 23:13:07 GMT
goz It goes against the Laws of Physics for a universe to exist without a cause. Just so you know. If the universe is immortal, then it is godlike. "It goes against the Laws of Physics for a universe to exist without a cause." Cite an actual credible physicist willing to back that up "If the universe is immortal, then it is godlike." That's just a nonsequitor, you're arbitrarily inserting "godlike" out of nowhere because it suits your argument. Also the universe isn't "immortal" since it was never alive to begin with, it's just space and solid matter filled with mortal beings.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:13:14 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 23:13:14 GMT
What is seen in the human being culture as “immortal” other than something godlike?
Give me a list.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:14:17 GMT
Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 28, 2020 23:14:17 GMT
No one can prove that believers are wrong about God existing. The people who call them names although they can’t prove them wrong are not nice people. No one can prove the believers are wrong about outer space leprechauns existing. The people who call them names although they can’t prove them wrong are not nice people.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:14:20 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 23:14:20 GMT
No one can prove that believers are wrong about God existing. The people who call them names although they can’t prove them wrong are not nice people. 
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Dec 28, 2020 23:14:38 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 23:14:38 GMT
In physics and chemistry, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time. ... For instance, chemical energy is converted to kinetic energy when a stick of dynamite explodes.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:15:01 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 23:15:01 GMT
goz I am being dead honest when I say you’re hostile and a (well, no need to repeat the word). Your honesty is not doubted, and neither is your hypocrisy!
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Dec 28, 2020 23:15:46 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 23:15:46 GMT
In physics and chemistry, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time. ... For instance, chemical energy is converted to kinetic energy when a stick of dynamite explodes. I said citations not your idiocy!
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 28, 2020 23:17:32 GMT
What is seen in the human being culture as “immortal” other than something godlike? Give me a list. Quite a few fictional beings actually: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_immortalsBesides like I said the universe isn't "immortal" since it isn't a living being to begin with
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Dec 28, 2020 23:17:50 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 23:17:50 GMT
There’s nothing you can do to prove that believers are wrong to believe.
Nothing whatsoever.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:19:39 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 23:19:39 GMT
There’s nothing you guys can do. Everyone gets to think whatever they want. Tough, huh?  |
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Dec 28, 2020 23:20:22 GMT
Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 28, 2020 23:20:22 GMT
In physics and chemistry, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time. ... For instance, chemical energy is converted to kinetic energy when a stick of dynamite explodes. That doesn't really answer what I asked, can you name one credible phsycist willing to backup your "first cause" argument?
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Dec 28, 2020 23:21:46 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 23:21:46 GMT
There’s nothing you can do to prove that believers are wrong to believe. Nothing whatsoever. Wrong is not the right word. WE have already discussed this. It is therefore more a case of irrational and delusional. * *
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Dec 28, 2020 23:22:18 GMT
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