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Dec 28, 2020 17:18:05 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 17:18:05 GMT
lowtacks86Translation from Low: “Can someone please teach me how to conduct a conversation like a real person? I’m lost.”
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Dec 28, 2020 20:58:59 GMT
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Dec 28, 2020 20:58:59 GMT
lowtacks86Translation from Low: “Can someone please teach me how to conduct a conversation like a real person? I’m lost.” All this (including taking the high ground!) and no attempt to directly answer my point I see... Can you spell "hypocrite"? |
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Dec 28, 2020 21:23:13 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 21:23:13 GMT
lowtacks86Translation from Low: “Can someone please teach me how to conduct a conversation like a real person? I’m lost.” All this (including taking the high ground!) and no attempt to directly answer my point I see... Can you spell "hypocrite"? Your point was an admission that you’re a hypocrite. There wasn’t much to say after that. |
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Dec 28, 2020 21:40:13 GMT
Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Dec 28, 2020 21:40:13 GMT
All this (including taking the high ground!) and no attempt to directly answer my point I see... Can you spell "hypocrite"? Your point was an admission that you’re a hypocrite. There wasn’t much to say after that. No it wasn't and you know that. It was a very clear challenge asking you to actually answer a point. But as usual you refuse to do so and just deflect. Exactly as you are doing now. Because (at best) you're a coward or (more likely) you're a troll.
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Dec 28, 2020 21:43:52 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 21:43:52 GMT
Your point was an admission that you’re a hypocrite. There wasn’t much to say after that. No it wasn't and you know that. It was a very clear challenge asking you to actually answer a point. But as usual you refuse to do so and just deflect. Exactly as you are doing now. Because (at best) you're a coward or (more likely) you're a troll. No, your point was that you’re a hypocrite. When people say 500 times (or fewer) that “a point” wasn’t answered without restating it, people get to fill in the blank. You said you are a hypocrite. |
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Dec 28, 2020 21:50:29 GMT
Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Dec 28, 2020 21:50:29 GMT
No it wasn't and you know that. It was a very clear challenge asking you to actually answer a point. But as usual you refuse to do so and just deflect. Exactly as you are doing now. Because (at best) you're a coward or (more likely) you're a troll. No, your point was that you’re a hypocrite. When people say 500 times (or fewer) that “a point” wasn’t answered without restating it, people get to fill in the blank. You said you are a hypocrite. Fair enough. You're a troll. I guess you could be a complete idiot, but the net result is the same. Either way I now know to avoid you. Bye!
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Dec 28, 2020 21:54:14 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 21:54:14 GMT
No, your point was that you’re a hypocrite. When people say 500 times (or fewer) that “a point” wasn’t answered without restating it, people get to fill in the blank. You said you are a hypocrite. Fair enough. You're a troll. I guess you could be a complete idiot, but the net result is the same. Either way I now know to avoid you. Bye! If you keep asking for an answer to “a point” without restating it, it’s fair game to fill in the blank. You said you are a hypocrite. |
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Dec 28, 2020 21:54:44 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 21:54:44 GMT
You missed the real answer. It’s THE PERSON MAKING THE CLAIM.When someone says God doesn’t exist as if it’s a fact, the burden of proof is on this person (if the other person isn’t asking the non-believer to believe). When someone ASKS YOU TO BELIEVE IN GOD, the burden of proof is on the believer. If they’re both making CLAIMS, they both have the burden of proof. The burden of proof is on the person making a claim. You missed the real answer. It’s THE PERSON MAKING THE CLAIM.When someone says God doesn’t exist as if it’s a fact, the burden of proof is on this person (if the other person isn’t asking the non-believer to believe). When someone ASKS YOU TO BELIEVE IN GOD, the burden of proof is on the believer. If they’re both making CLAIMS, they both have the burden of proof. The burden of proof is on the person making a claim. OK then. Where is your proof that atheists are slandering billions of people worldwide and historically? imdb2.freeforums.net/post/4502609As stated in that post it is ointed out to you that when YOU make a claim you adopt the burden of proof. Where is it? To do that you must prove that God exists, to proove that it is slander to say he doesn't.
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Dec 28, 2020 22:01:11 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 22:01:11 GMT
gozI said that atheists are usually neutral. They just don’t believe. It’s the anti-religion religion that slanders believers. Examples of this are on the RFS board. “Delusional”, “irrational”, “a danger to themselves and others” (for believing), etc. Deny it if you wish but it’s right here.
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Dec 28, 2020 22:09:26 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 22:09:26 GMT
goz I said that atheists are usually neutral. They just don’t believe. It’s the anti-religion religion that slanders believers. Examples of this are on the RFS board. “Delusional”, “irrational”, “a danger to themselves and others” (for believing), etc. Deny it if you wish but it’s right here. Yes. When asked why I am an atheists I point out all the things I have said before like logical rational scientific reasons. The corollary of these reasons is that people who believe in a God without evidence logic or rational reasons, are 'delusional' irrational' and 'mistaken' in my opinion. It is nice to discuss this here and air everyone's opinions. Why would I deny it? AS previously stated, if you can't take criticism of your beliefs or even derision, your belief cannot be very strong (whatever it is as you haven't actually stated it), just that we somehow slander you. Again, for that to be proven true, the burden of that proof is on you to say that what we are saying is 'not true' and therfore that God exists.(if that is what you believe and we are slandering you) Simple.
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Dec 28, 2020 22:22:16 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 22:22:16 GMT
goz I said that atheists are usually neutral. They just don’t believe. It’s the anti-religion religion that slanders believers. Examples of this are on the RFS board. “Delusional”, “irrational”, “a danger to themselves and others” (for believing), etc. Deny it if you wish but it’s right here. Yes. You have no proof that a higher power doesn’t exist. It’s just something you believe. It’s ok with me. I don’t call you delusional or irrational for it. I’m a nicer person, apparently. |
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Dec 28, 2020 22:29:10 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 22:29:10 GMT
You have no proof that a higher power doesn’t exist. It’s just something you believe. It’s ok with me. I don’t call you delusional or irrational for it. I’m a nicer person, apparently. I am able to call you that because factually your position is just that; irrational and delusional due to the lack of those things. You can call me what you like, however I have rationlity logicality and reason on my side.
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Dec 28, 2020 22:33:31 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 22:33:31 GMT
You have no proof that a higher power doesn’t exist. It’s just something you believe. It’s ok with me. I don’t call you delusional or irrational for it. I’m a nicer person, apparently. You’re always hostile for the sake of being hostile. If you’re against me, I know I’m doing something right.  |
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Dec 28, 2020 22:36:51 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 22:36:51 GMT
You’re always hostile for the sake of being hostile. If you’re against me, I know I’m doing something right. It's called a discussion Board. People of varied opinions discuss stuff. I can't help it in this discussion, that I have logic, rationality and reason on my side and you merely have delusion fabrication and wishful thinking!
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Dec 28, 2020 22:43:28 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 22:43:28 GMT
You’re always hostile for the sake of being hostile. If you’re against me, I know I’m doing something right. It's called a discussion Board. People of varied opinions discuss stuff. I can't help... ...being a jerk. You don’t know the origin of the universe and you think this makes you logical. No one can prove either side of this. You claim that this makes you superior. It doesn’t but it’s a hill you’ll die on for the rest of your life. |
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Dec 28, 2020 22:51:45 GMT
Post by goz on Dec 28, 2020 22:51:45 GMT
It's called a discussion Board. People of varied opinions discuss stuff. I can't help... ...being a jerk. You don’t know the origin of the universe and you think this makes you logical. No one can prove either side of this. You claim that this makes you superior. It doesn’t but it’s a hill you’ll die on for the rest of your life. So someone is being 'a jerk' ( ad hominem noted and it is not forming part of a cogent argument) because they disagree with you and point out the irrationality delusion and lack of evidence of your argument? It is normal for those with a logical rational non-delutional argument to be considered superior due to the way facts, science and logic actually work. It is this fundamental truth that has led to civilisation, modernisation and technology.
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Dec 28, 2020 22:55:52 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 22:55:52 GMT
gozCite the Law of Physics that allows “nature” to exist without a cause because it’s “natural”. If the natural world is immortal, then it’s godlike. There’s no escape except that religious people don’t call you stupid.
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Dec 28, 2020 22:58:32 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 22:58:32 GMT
Calling people irrational, etc, is ad hominem, by the way.
You aren’t God so you don’t know people’s minds.
You are hostile, though. It’s your way.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:03:35 GMT
Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 28, 2020 23:03:35 GMT
Calling people irrational, etc, is ad hominem, by the way. You aren’t God so you don’t know people’s minds. You are hostile, though. It’s your way. It's not an "ad hom" if you give an actual argument, ie "You're irrational and here is why...(insert argument)". The posters on this thread have given you actual arguments. Also I find it absurd you of all people are accusing others of ad homing, Pot.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:04:43 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 23:04:43 GMT
“Here is why...... “ comes with ZERO PROOF.
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