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Post by mikef6 on Apr 20, 2021 20:13:54 GMT
From MNE:
Jim Caviezel, who played the role of Jesus in The Passion Of The Christ, has promoted a false QAnon conspiracy theory claiming that children are being drained of their blood.
The actor appeared at the Clay Clark’s Health and Freedom Conference in Tulsa, Oklahoma on Friday (April 16), which includes a line-up of far-right conspiracy theorists.
Speaking on his new film Sound of Freedom, in which he plays a former Department of Homeland Security agent who quits his job to rescue children from child sex trafficking, Caviezel touched upon the outlandish conspiracy known as “adrenochroming”.
The false theory suggests that rich people torture children to harvest their adrenaline, which is said to contain rejuvenation properties. Last year, it was confirmed by Caveizel that a sequel to 2004’s The Passion of the Christ was in the works. “Mel Gibson just sent me the third picture, the third draft,” he said. “It’s coming. It’s called The Passion of the Christ: Resurrection. It’s going to be the biggest film in world history.” The original Gibson film proved very controversial when released, with particular criticism over the film’s violence alongside accusations of anti-Semitism.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 21, 2021 0:05:02 GMT
It's disappointing to hear. He never struck me as someone that dabbled in conspiracy theories.
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Post by hi224 on May 3, 2021 21:09:22 GMT
It's disappointing to hear. He never struck me as someone that dabbled in conspiracy theories. also very devout so kissing scenes for him are no bueno at all.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on May 4, 2021 4:16:54 GMT
Him and Jon Voigt should face off in a "who's crazier" contest.
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Post by hi224 on May 4, 2021 4:17:39 GMT
Is it why his career waned.
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Post by politicidal on May 4, 2021 12:42:42 GMT
Is it why his career waned. I think Mel Gibson actually warned him that playing Jesus Christ would hurt his career.
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Post by SuperDevilDoctor on May 4, 2021 13:32:29 GMT
Well, this stupid nutter has royally screwed himself -- for believing in utter shit.
I'd love to see Caviezel get a call from his agent...
AGENT: Jim! Good news! You're being considered for that juicy supporting role in the upcoming Tom Hanks picture. CAVIEZEL (long pause): T-Tom... Tom Hanks? He's headlining? AGENT: Yeah, man! It's a terrific, meaty role for you, ya know. You loved the script! CAVIEZEL: Um... Okay...
Later, after Hanks learns that Caviezel believes he is a pedophile that murders children to drink their blood in the name of Satan, Hanks angrily tells the producers that he'll never, EVER work on ANY picture with that "fucking Caviezel wacko".
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Post by SuperDevilDoctor on May 4, 2021 17:04:36 GMT
Is it why his career waned. I think Mel Gibson actually warned him that playing Jesus Christ would hurt his career. I wonder what Max Von Sydow would have thought of that...
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Post by mikef6 on May 6, 2021 16:13:21 GMT
I think Mel Gibson actually warned him that playing Jesus Christ would hurt his career. I wonder what Max Von Sydow would have thought of that... Well done.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 6, 2021 18:32:19 GMT
May I ask what the big deal is? It isn't like Caviezel is saying there are boatloads of wealthy celebrities or politicians who are taking part in such an horrific activity or is encouraging everyone to boycott certain Hollywood or political types.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 6, 2021 18:34:24 GMT
Well, this stupid nutter has royally screwed himself -- for believing in utter shit.
I'd love to see Caviezel get a call from his agent...AGENT: Jim! Good news! You're being considered for that juicy supporting role in the upcoming Tom Hanks picture. CAVIEZEL (long pause): T-Tom... Tom Hanks? He's headlining? AGENT: Yeah, man! It's a terrific, meaty role for you, ya know. You loved the script! CAVIEZEL: Um... Okay... Later, after Hanks learns that Caviezel believes he is a pedophile that murders children to drink their blood in the name of Satan, Hanks angrily tells the producers that he'll never, EVER work on ANY picture with that "fucking Caviezel wacko". Caviezel never once lists any person of Hollywood or from the world of politics taking part in such activities, so it is wrong to assume so because he is talking about such a concept.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 6, 2021 18:38:34 GMT
Just an FYI, but the film Caviezel is promoting features Mira Sorvino who is a serious democrat and called out Donald Trump many times as well as others in the Republican party. I suppose she's a right-wing nutter now, I guess?
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Post by mikef6 on May 6, 2021 20:01:58 GMT
Just an FYI, but the film Caviezel is promoting features Mira Sorvino who is a serious democrat and called out Donald Trump many times as well as others in the Republican party. I suppose she's a right-wing nutter now, I guess? I am not sure what the point of this reply is (somehow if he hires a Reality-based person then he can't be a conspiracy nut? Maybe?) but she might have accepted the role because she is a working actor and this is a paying job.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 7, 2021 1:49:28 GMT
Just an FYI, but the film Caviezel is promoting features Mira Sorvino who is a serious democrat and called out Donald Trump many times as well as others in the Republican party. I suppose she's a right-wing nutter now, I guess? I am not sure what the point of this reply is (somehow if he hires a Reality-based person then he can't be a conspiracy nut? Maybe?) but she might have accepted the role because she is a working actor and this is a paying job. My point is that the suggestion from your deciphering of Caviezel's comments is that they must be an ultra right wing conspiracy theorist who thinks any and all democrats and several Hollywood elites are evil and commit such a crime as described - when he did not speak of any political party or giving the idea that specific politicians and left leaning Hollywood types commit such criminal acts on a regular basis, which is the rhetoric that QAnon reinforces daily. And because Caviezel was talking about their film, Sound of Freedom(which is based on true events concerning the subject of trafficking children) must, from your original post, probably is a right wing conspiracy feature when one of its stars Mira Sorvino is a democrat so that does dispel that potential claim from being made forth.
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Post by mikef6 on May 7, 2021 2:24:37 GMT
I am not sure what the point of this reply is (somehow if he hires a Reality-based person then he can't be a conspiracy nut? Maybe?) but she might have accepted the role because she is a working actor and this is a paying job. My point is that the suggestion from your deciphering of Caviezel's comments is that they must be an ultra right wing conspiracy theorist who thinks any and all democrats and several Hollywood elites are evil and commit such a crime as described - when he did not speak of any political party or giving the idea that specific politicians and left leaning Hollywood types commit such criminal acts on a regular basis, which is the rhetoric that QAnon reinforces daily. And because Caviezel was talking about their film, Sound of Freedom(which is based on true events concerning the subject of trafficking children) must, from your original post, probably is a right wing conspiracy feature when one of its stars Mira Sorvino is a democrat so that does dispel that potential claim from being made forth. But the speech he gave was in front of a conspiracy theory audience and he directly addressed the QAnon violence porn fantasy of rich people killing children for their adrenalin. Then he stuck in a plug for his new movie. Read again the exact quote I gave.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 7, 2021 6:22:43 GMT
My point is that the suggestion from your deciphering of Caviezel's comments is that they must be an ultra right wing conspiracy theorist who thinks any and all democrats and several Hollywood elites are evil and commit such a crime as described - when he did not speak of any political party or giving the idea that specific politicians and left leaning Hollywood types commit such criminal acts on a regular basis, which is the rhetoric that QAnon reinforces daily. And because Caviezel was talking about their film, Sound of Freedom(which is based on true events concerning the subject of trafficking children) must, from your original post, probably is a right wing conspiracy feature when one of its stars Mira Sorvino is a democrat so that does dispel that potential claim from being made forth. But the speech he gave was in front of a conspiracy theory audience and he directly addressed the QAnon violence porn fantasy of rich people killing children for their adrenalin. Then he stuck in a plug for his new movie. Read again the exact quote I gave. I have, he does not say political or Hollywood types who align with said political types are guilty of such a thing nor does he specify rich people only do it.
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Post by amyghost on May 7, 2021 10:30:28 GMT
But the speech he gave was in front of a conspiracy theory audience and he directly addressed the QAnon violence porn fantasy of rich people killing children for their adrenalin. Then he stuck in a plug for his new movie. Read again the exact quote I gave. I have, he does not say political or Hollywood types who align with said political types are guilty of such a thing nor does he specify rich people only do it. Because he doesn't specifically target those above groups, this somehow makes it okay that he's promoting such a theory to QAnon nutters? And if he doesn't actually believe this shit himself, and is only dabbling in it as some crazed way of promoting his next film project, he's displaying a level of cynicism that's even more sickening, if possible, than having actual belief in it. Waiting to see if Mel gets himself onboard with this, and begins making claims that the child-killing blood drinkers are Jews. Hoo-boy.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 7, 2021 19:39:03 GMT
I have, he does not say political or Hollywood types who align with said political types are guilty of such a thing nor does he specify rich people only do it. Because he doesn't specifically target those above groups, this somehow makes it okay that he's promoting such a theory to QAnon nutters? And if he doesn't actually believe this shit himself, and is only dabbling in it as some crazed way of promoting his next film project, he's displaying a level of cynicism that's even more sickening, if possible, than having actual belief in it. Waiting to see if Mel gets himself onboard with this, and begins making claims that the child-killing blood drinkers are Jews. Hoo-boy. Question, why is such a described horrific activity an exclusive only to QAnon conspiracy theories? The world is a pretty messed up place in a lot more circles than we would like to admit and it wouldn't surprise me if there are some really sick people who commit such criminal activity. You do not necessarily have to subscribe to a conspiracy theorist group to believe certain things, and as a reminder the film in which Caviezel is taking part in is based on true events and he is portraying an actual person, with whom he had several discussions with in preparation for their role and in fact was offered the role by them personally. And I do not believe the film is a politically left or right leaning sort of picture as again Mira Sorvino, a Democrat who has expressed criticism at one Donald Trump and the Republican party, is the female lead. Now I recognize Caviezel was discussing the film at an event hosted by a Conservative news outlet, that Tim Ballard, with whom the film is about, appears right leaning politically and that Caviezel himself appears to be right leaning politically also. But Caviezel also appears quite in good friendships with several left leaning types, and again a left leaning type is the female lead of the film, and while I can understand some would call him and the whole subject insane given that Caviezel one point in the interview says that such a production is difficult to be made in their industry because there are some powerful behind the scenes types who allegedly take part in similar activity(I don't know about draining the blood of youth but human trafficking definitely) wouldn't want it out there but honestly after the whole Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein explosions of recent memory should such a thing really be seen as too far fetched and be described as being rooted in just political rhetoric? Human trafficking shouldn't be a right or left sort of issue, its pretty terrible and should be stopped.
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Post by Admin on May 7, 2021 20:57:49 GMT
The false theory suggests that rich people torture children to harvest their adrenaline, which is said to contain rejuvenation properties. Sometimes, life imitates art: www.imdb.com/title/tt1711018/
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Post by amyghost on May 8, 2021 10:58:08 GMT
Because he doesn't specifically target those above groups, this somehow makes it okay that he's promoting such a theory to QAnon nutters? And if he doesn't actually believe this shit himself, and is only dabbling in it as some crazed way of promoting his next film project, he's displaying a level of cynicism that's even more sickening, if possible, than having actual belief in it. Waiting to see if Mel gets himself onboard with this, and begins making claims that the child-killing blood drinkers are Jews. Hoo-boy. Question, why is such a described horrific activity an exclusive only to QAnon conspiracy theories? The world is a pretty messed up place in a lot more circles than we would like to admit and it wouldn't surprise me if there are some really sick people who commit such criminal activity. You do not necessarily have to subscribe to a conspiracy theorist group to believe certain things, and as a reminder the film in which Caviezel is taking part in is based on true events and he is portraying an actual person, with whom he had several discussions with in preparation for their role and in fact was offered the role by them personally. And I do not believe the film is a politically left or right leaning sort of picture as again Mira Sorvino, a Democrat who has expressed criticism at one Donald Trump and the Republican party, is the female lead. Now I recognize Caviezel was discussing the film at an event hosted by a Conservative news outlet, that Tim Ballard, with whom the film is about, appears right leaning politically and that Caviezel himself appears to be right leaning politically also. But Caviezel also appears quite in good friendships with several left leaning types, and again a left leaning type is the female lead of the film, and while I can understand some would call him and the whole subject insane given that Caviezel one point in the interview says that such a production is difficult to be made in their industry because there are some powerful behind the scenes types who allegedly take part in similar activity(I don't know about draining the blood of youth but human trafficking definitely) wouldn't want it out there but honestly after the whole Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein explosions of recent memory should such a thing really be seen as too far fetched and be described as being rooted in just political rhetoric? Human trafficking shouldn't be a right or left sort of issue, its pretty terrible and should be stopped. That part is correct, but as for the rest of the above, you generated a ton of verbiage to defend Caviezel from his making of unfounded accusations and spewing them at a convention of rightwing mental cases, presumably largely in the interests of promoting his next film project. I fail to see how either he--or you--can imagine this is in any way furthering the cause of preventing human trafficking.
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