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Post by thisguy4000 on May 5, 2021 21:53:43 GMT
Back when I first saw Iron Man 3, I was actually shocked at how overtly comedic it was. The trailers made it seem like it would be the darkest of the Iron Man films, but the movie borders on being an action comedy. This was of course before the Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man movies, so I wasn’t used to seeing that side of the MCU.
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Post by Skaathar on May 5, 2021 22:27:47 GMT
Thor was already funny in the first Thor movie and even in Avengers. The MCU's mistake was that they made him too serious a character in Thor:TDW and AoU, and that made him just plain boring. They eventually made him funny again in Ragnarok and Endgame, but there's a big difference in how this was done compared to how he was funny in his first two movies. Before, Thor was funny because he said things that were unintentionally funny. For example, him going to a pet store looking for a horse or him mentioning that Loki was adopted when it was pointed out how many people Loki killed. It works because Thor is still serious, doesn't intend to be funny, but is still funny anyway. That's different from a number of scenes in Ragnarok and Endgame where he knows he's specifically joking. Like joking about Surtur's eyebrow or making faces at Hulk. Then he became just another jokester in the mcu. It didn't match what we knew from Thor. I'm fine with Thor being humorous, I'm not fine with him being a jokester. That’s fair enough. I just think the recent incarnation of Thor is much more endearing and enjoyable than the one from his first two movies and The Avengers. I’ll agree they went too far in End Game, though I still honestly enjoy him in there too. I don’t mind him being one of the funnier characters because Hemsworth is just so good at actually being genuinely funny. I would definitely reign in the jokes for characters like Banner, Dr Strange, Carol and Drax though. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Thor being funny. I just don't like him being slapsticky. For example in Ragnarok, his whole conversation with Dr. Strange about sending emails or him describing how Loki turns into a snake and stabs him was amusingly funny, but him screaming like a girl in the Grandmaster's chair was off-putting and that whole gag about Stan Lee cutting his hair was amusing but also incongruous with his character. We have to remember that Thor is a 1500 year-old warrior-god who was raised in a royal household to be the next king of Asgard. There are just some things that he shouldn't be doing.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 0:07:33 GMT
That’s fair enough. I just think the recent incarnation of Thor is much more endearing and enjoyable than the one from his first two movies and The Avengers. I’ll agree they went too far in End Game, though I still honestly enjoy him in there too. I don’t mind him being one of the funnier characters because Hemsworth is just so good at actually being genuinely funny. I would definitely reign in the jokes for characters like Banner, Dr Strange, Carol and Drax though. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Thor being funny. I just don't like him being slapsticky. For example in Ragnarok, his whole conversation with Dr. Strange about sending emails or him describing how Loki turns into a snake and stabs him was amusingly funny, but him screaming like a girl in the Grandmaster's chair was off-putting and that whole gag about Stan Lee cutting his hair was amusing but also incongruous with his character. We have to remember that Thor is a 1500 year-old warrior-god who was raised in a royal household to be the next king of Asgard. There are just some things that he shouldn't be doing. I get that. As much as I enjoy Ragnorock I definitely admit that the comedy sometimes goes overboard. I thought his characterization in Infinity War was more or less a good balance. Then End Game really doubled down on him being too buffoonish.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 0:09:24 GMT
Back when I first saw Iron Man 3, I was actually shocked at how overtly comedic it was. The trailers made it seem like it would be the darkest of the Iron Man films, but the movie borders on being an action comedy. This was of course before the Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man movies, so I wasn’t used to seeing that side of the MCU. The trailers were absolutely awesome. I was really hyped to see Stark going up against a truly menacing villain. It was really bad marketing and definitely amplified the disappointment of so many fans by misleading them.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 3, 2021 13:54:20 GMT
New logo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 19:23:53 GMT
New logo. The S is a bit awkward looking. I bet a lot of people will misread it as The Marvel (singular).
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 4, 2021 15:33:37 GMT
Agreed. We have way too many characters who do this already. Stark, Quill, Parker, Sam, Danvers, Strange, heck they even got Thor doing it now. Wasp does it, Natasha does it, Valkyrie does it, even Okoye does it. That's why Bucky, Wanda, Vision and T'Challa were so refreshing. Making Thor a funnier character was good choice though because he wasn’t really working and Hemsworth is arguably the funniest actor in the McU. I do hate how they gradually took other characters who were working and turned them comedic. Like Banner, who had excellent characterization in The Avengers or Rhodey who had excellent characterization in the first two Iron Mans- flash ahead to End Game and they’re both quip machines like everyone else. If it weren’t for the actors you’d be hard pressed to even define their personality traits at that point. Agreed, but I think there's a method to this madness. The larger the cast (and it keeps growing with each flick, especially stuff like IW and Endgame), the less there is for each character (and thus actor) to do. I think they try to spread the wealth in terms of memorable moments as best they can, even if it's something as simple as a wisecrack. Otherwise you have 20 major characters and only 4 of them are actually featured in any significant way. You don't pay these A listers to stand there and take up space. The portals scene was great, but I wouldn't want two hours of just looking at a bunch of characters who happened to be present. AoU was probably the most guilty of this. They even made the villain a goofball. I still love that movie, but there were too many jokes coming from every direction all the time. And they really weren't necessary going by my theory above, because everyone still had plenty to do in that movie. I think that was more of a case of Whedon flexing with the dialog too often.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 19:15:15 GMT
Making Thor a funnier character was good choice though because he wasn’t really working and Hemsworth is arguably the funniest actor in the McU. I do hate how they gradually took other characters who were working and turned them comedic. Like Banner, who had excellent characterization in The Avengers or Rhodey who had excellent characterization in the first two Iron Mans- flash ahead to End Game and they’re both quip machines like everyone else. If it weren’t for the actors you’d be hard pressed to even define their personality traits at that point. Agreed, but I think there's a method to this madness. The larger the cast (and it keeps growing with each flick, especially stuff like IW and Endgame), the less there is for each character (and thus actor) to do. I think they try to spread the wealth in terms of memorable moments as best they can, even if it's something as simple as a wisecrack. Otherwise you have 20 major characters and only 4 of them are actually featured in any significant way. You don't pay these A listers to stand there and take up space. The portals scene was great, but I wouldn't want two hours of just looking at a bunch of characters who happened to be present. AoU was probably the most guilty of this. They even made the villain a goofball. I still love that movie, but there were too many jokes coming from every direction all the time. And they really weren't necessary going by my theory above, because everyone still had plenty to do in that movie. I think that was more of a case of Whedon flexing with the dialog too often. I thought The Avengers (2012) did a phenomenal job of allowing everyone to stand out because they were all distinct characters. Banner was especially good in that movie, with every moment highlighting how his situation/personality was unique. Age of Ultron really fucked that all up by making every one a quipping jokester. It must’ve been a real nightmare trying to insert stand out moments for everyone in Infinity War. But I think they were really hit and miss on it. And again the problem was too much comedic relief from too many directions. Drax, for example, could’ve butted heads with everyone by wanting his revenge over all else- which they used in just one moment on Knowhere, before reverting him back to a “funny” dumb guy. But it’s true they had to sacrifice things like that so that the focus could remain on the more important characters like Stark and Strange.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 15, 2021 18:02:25 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Jul 3, 2021 15:11:54 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Aug 11, 2021 1:20:37 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Aug 14, 2021 23:43:23 GMT
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Post by darkpast on Aug 15, 2021 5:19:14 GMT
is this shooting in Australia under lockdown ?
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 15, 2021 18:16:12 GMT
I'm hoping they depower her. Characters at her level can only be a deus ex machina, mentor, or dies by the end. Sometimes death is a part of the other 2. Especially in team movies. Hell, I think Batman should also be in that group of characters. They keep having to go back to Year 1/2 with him. Just make him the Nick Fury of the Bat Family that makes cameos for the younger characters. There's enough BF characters there can be a BCU.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 21, 2021 12:13:49 GMT
The director talks about the movie: From the perspective of Monica, Carol flew away in the 1990s and didn't come back to Earth until Thanos had snapped away half of all life in the universe. After The Hulk un-did that and brought everyone back it became clear that her mother Maria had died while she'd been blipped, and that Carol hadn't done anything to help her. "Not only did [Monica's mother] pass, but Monica wasn't there to help her mother transition. And that's a very hard pill to swallow," Parris previously told TVLine. "The guilt and the shame and whatever other grief she might be trying to sort through, while returning to work on a project she doesn't even typically do — there are parallels between Monica's grief and trauma and tragedy, as well as what Wanda is experiencing. Monica connects with Wanda on that level....We do have a lot of real estate and time to play with the relationships between Carol and Monica [in Captain Marvel 2]." comicbook.com/marvel/news/the-marvels-director-nia-dacosta-hints-approach-captain-marvel-sequel/
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Post by darkpast on Aug 26, 2021 0:02:42 GMT
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 26, 2021 3:25:42 GMT
Her archery form is pretty bad but her musculature is fairly impressive.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 26, 2021 14:27:59 GMT
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 28, 2021 22:08:27 GMT
Back off Carol, Hawkeye has one goddamn thing.
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Post by Lux on Aug 29, 2021 7:43:27 GMT
I don't mind Brie Larson as an actress but I do think she was miscast in her role. Or maybe her role was simply badly written. Monica Rambeau wasn't bad in Wandavision. I'm not exactly excited to see more of her but I do like her character more than Carol Danvers at this point. Kamala Khan, I've never been a fan of the comicbook character, I felt like she was some cheap knock-off of Spiderman and Mr. Fantastic. But that said, I do admit she's the "Ms. Marvel" character I'm most interested in just because she's more unique than either Carol Danvers or Monica Rambeau. It's certainly fun seeing the first brown superhero. Hopefully they don't mess her character up. The "first brown superhero"? What colour was Black Panther then? Spotty green?
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