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Post by CrepedCrusader on May 18, 2021 18:49:42 GMT
Full disclosure, I've never actually seen a whole Fast & Furious movie. Basing my opinion on the trailers, clips on YouTube, little glimpses seen while channel surfing, and what I've heard in reviews, I have zero respect for the movies or the people who make them, and find interviews with cast members talking like they're making real movies or pictures of the package sent out for awards consideration laughably sad. My problem is that so many critics, while admitting that they're dumb as s**t, will give them a pass for...reasons. I remember one of the movies came out and the writer was like, "I wrote the script in one weekend", and people were like, "Lol, that's COOL!". (I'm old enough to remember when the writers of Godzilla 1998 were crucified for making a similar claim.)
Finally, at last, it seems even fanboy critics can't do it anymore. The Hollywood Reporter called the movie "too idiotic to embrace, even guiltily". John Campea (who practically jizzed his shorts for the trailer) called it "eyerolling nonsense".
Update: Robert Mayer Burnett, another fanboy critic, says the movie "jumped the shark across a chasm wider than the grand canyon".
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Post by mikef6 on May 18, 2021 19:00:06 GMT
To my shame, I watched the first entry in the franchise. For an action film consisting mostly of high speed chases, it is surprisingly unexciting. Watch one of the set-pieces from a F&F and then immediately look at the final sequence in "The Road Warrior" and see what a chasm there is between them. I never gave a second thought to sitting down to one of the subsequent films.
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Post by onethreetwo on May 18, 2021 19:00:30 GMT
I stopped watching them after the 5th one. I liked those 5 though. I think I gave up once they brought The Rock in. I don't really get the hate though. They're not supposed to be Shakespeare.
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Post by thisguy4000 on May 18, 2021 19:03:15 GMT
I wonder if Martin Scorsese has any opinions on the franchise.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on May 18, 2021 19:06:03 GMT
I have not seen any of the Fast & Furious movies so i don`t have any opinions on them. I only have opinions on movies i have seen.
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on May 18, 2021 19:12:23 GMT
Since when are Fast & Furious movies critical darlings? Honestly, after some shaky starts, I think it’s a franchise that’s mostly gotten better. The movies are dumb, but there’s a place for that and we don’t get much like them these days. Also, I find your stance on them to be more childish than these movies ever could be.
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Post by vegalyra on May 18, 2021 19:21:00 GMT
I actually never got the hate for the films. They aren’t fine art at all but are fun films. I didn’t care much for the last one as it seemed they were getting more and more ridiculous and Charlize Theron was horribly miscast but the first 4 or 5 were just lots of fun. I like the first one especially, it’s Point Blank with cars but having always loved cars it’s a natural for me (especially the black Dodge Charger). It’s a little nostalgia for me as well as at the time I was a dumb 20something and some of my friends were into the import tuning thing. I was more into classic American cars but it was still a scene I was around. Sure the 1/4 mile drags into more than a few miles in the film and the whole NOS thing is pretty funny but the main cast has a lot of charisma even though none of them are great actors.
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Post by mikef6 on May 18, 2021 19:22:06 GMT
Several of these responses have been, basically, "They are bad but what's bad about that." It is the old "mindless entertainment" diversion. If a movie wants foremost to entertain, it can be intelligent about it. The "dumb comedy/action where you can just turn your mind off and enjoy it" probably doesn't exist. If you enjoy a high octane action film then the film makers have been very smart about it (see the Mad Max tetralogy). Going by the first of the F&F series, I would say that the producers and directors don't much care about quality and don't put much effort into making a decent entertainment.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 19:25:09 GMT
I remember one of the movies came out and the writer was like, "I wrote the script in one weekend", and people were like, "Lol, that's COOL!". To he fair, the writer had to do that because he had school on Monday. Btw, lemme let you in on a little secret: If you're watching these movies as anything other than comedies, you're doing it wrong. |
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on May 18, 2021 19:27:04 GMT
Several of these responses have been, basically, "They are bad but what's bad about that." It is the old "mindless entertainment" diversion. If a movie wants foremost to entertain, it can be intelligent about it. The "dumb comedy/action where you can just turn your mind off and enjoy it" probably doesn't exist. If you enjoy a high octane action film then the film makers have been very smart about it (see the Mad Max tetralogy). Going by the first of the F&F series, I would say that the producers and directors don't much care about quality and don't put much effort into making a decent entertainment. As someone who has been watching action films since the 80s and considers themselves quite the connaisseur of them, I can safely say the F&F movies are nowhere near being the bottom of the barrel. In the action genre, they actually rank reasonably well. Just because they can’t compete with the S tier titles doesn’t mean they’re trash. |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 18, 2021 19:30:59 GMT
Not my cup of tea. I did watch one of them (the last one with Paul Walker, made just before he died) after seeing a preview that looked pretty spectacular and thinking “how bad can it be, at the very least it will be two hours of mindless entertainment”. That was a mistake I won’t be making again.
The one redeeming feature of that movie was the homage to Paul Walker on the last scene of the movie. That was beautiful. He is driving alongside Vin Diesel on a road. We see the two cars from above, filmed from a helicopter or a drone that is moving up. Then his car makes a turn on another road, and Vin Diesel’s keeps going.
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Post by kolchak92 on May 18, 2021 19:31:39 GMT
Was that a series that critics really loved?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 18, 2021 19:47:20 GMT
I've never seen one start to finish, only bits and pieces on tv. The trailers make them look unwatchable. Are there characters that only exist to narrate the action we're already seeing on screen? "We're using magnets now?" "They have a submarine?" "There are flying cars?" Because that's always happening in the trailers.
It seems like they've been headed this way for a while, but the last few of these flicks have looked like spoofs of themselves. Can't wait for trailer 2 of this latest chapter, that guy who narrates the action will probably just look at the camera and say, "Isn't this the dumbest shit you've ever seen?"
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 19:49:29 GMT
Several of these responses have been, basically, "They are bad but what's bad about that." It is the old "mindless entertainment" diversion. If a movie wants foremost to entertain, it can be intelligent about it. The "dumb comedy/action where you can just turn your mind off and enjoy it" probably doesn't exist. If you enjoy a high octane action film then the film makers have been very smart about it (see the Mad Max tetralogy). Going by the first of the F&F series, I would say that the producers and directors don't much care about quality and don't put much effort into making a decent entertainment. That's quite a statement. I'm not sure I can get behind it. Some of the replies also criticize CiCi's hate for a franchise he hasn't watched. You say you've only seen the first one. There are two types of Fast/Furious fans: the ones who prefer the first four back when they were mediocre street racing movies, and then the ones who got onboard after the fifth one when they inexplicably became genre-hopping superhero movies with car-fu. You might find the 5th one more entertaining. |
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Post by politicidal on May 18, 2021 19:52:07 GMT
Don't be hatin. Hate's ugly.
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Post by Vits on May 18, 2021 20:53:16 GMT
Full disclosure, I've never actually seen a whole Fast & Furious movie. Basing my opinion on the trailers, clips on YouTube, little glimpses seen while channel surfing, and what I've heard in reviews, I have No no, you can stop there. You said everything we needed to know about your opinion.
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Post by ck100 on May 18, 2021 20:56:06 GMT
Never seen any of the films, but at least they seem like they know they're dumb-but-entertaining action movies.
Any time you see someone like Charlize Theron or Helen Mirren appear in these movies, you know they're cashing a paycheck.
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Post by moviemouth on May 18, 2021 21:13:36 GMT
I hate Hobbs & Shaw, but technically not a F&F movie.
F&F 8 was the worst since 4.
But they were never critically acclaimed movies. It is really only 5-7 that have a big fanbase.
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Post by Downey on May 18, 2021 21:33:39 GMT
I actually never got the hate for the films. They aren’t fine art at all but are fun films. I didn’t care much for the last one as it seemed they were getting more and more ridiculous and Charlize Theron was horribly miscast but the first 4 or 5 were just lots of fun. I like the first one especially, it’s Point Blank with cars but having always loved cars it’s a natural for me (especially the black Dodge Charger). It’s a little nostalgia for me as well as at the time I was a dumb 20something and some of my friends were into the import tuning thing. I was more into classic American cars but it was still a scene I was around. Sure the 1/4 mile drags into more than a few miles in the film and the whole NOS thing is pretty funny but the main cast has a lot of charisma even though none of them are great actors. Good God how the fuck is Charlize Theron miscast? Explain to me as if you're a teacher how playing a super terrorist is unsuitable for one of the sexiest actresses of all time without making an absolute fool of yourself. |
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Post by moviemouth on May 18, 2021 21:43:07 GMT
Full disclosure, I've never actually seen a whole Fast & Furious movie. Basing my opinion on the trailers, clips on YouTube, little glimpses seen while channel surfing, and what I've heard in reviews, I have zero respect for the movies or the people who make them, and find interviews with cast members talking like they're making real movies or pictures of the package sent out for awards consideration laughably sad. My problem is that so many critics, while admitting that they're dumb as s**t, will give them a pass for...reasons. I remember one of the movies came out and the writer was like, "I wrote the script in one weekend", and people were like, "Lol, that's COOL!". (I'm old enough to remember when the writers of Godzilla 1998 were crucified for making a similar claim.) Guilty pleasure entertainment is the reason. Furious 7 so dumb and so insanely ridiculous that it becomes awesome and I'd rather re-watch it than a lot of movies that are technically better. The movie is a blast and it embraces itself as a comedy more than the other movies in the franchise. There is a scene where The Rock flexes off his won arm cast. However, that is the only F&F movie I fully enjoy, though the original, 5 and 6 have their moments.
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