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Post by moviemouth on Aug 8, 2021 21:00:34 GMT
In truth, Taylor did not even wonder why the Apes were talking in... ENGLISH! LOL. When you think about it, everyone in the audience should have guessed this was Earth. I mean there are apes speaking English and people that look like humans being controlled by the apes.
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Post by jcush on Aug 8, 2021 21:13:45 GMT
In truth, Taylor did not even wonder why the Apes were talking in... ENGLISH! LOL. When you think about it, everyone in the audience should have guessed this was Earth. I mean there are apes speaking English and people that look like humans being controlled by the apes. I've heard some people say that the twist is obvious because the apes speak English. I knew the twist before I watched the movie, but even if I hadn't I don't think I would have guessed. I would have just assumed the apes speaking English was a suspension of disbelief thing to make it more accessible, rather than having them speak some made up language. I mean in stuff like Star Wars, most of the characters speak English.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 8, 2021 21:21:24 GMT
When you think about it, everyone in the audience should have guessed this was Earth. I mean there are apes speaking English and people that look like humans being controlled by the apes. I've heard some people say that the twist is obvious because the apes speak English. I knew the twist before I watched the movie, but even if I hadn't I don't think I would have guessed. I would have just assumed the apes speaking English was a suspension of disbelief thing to make it more accessible, rather than having them speak some made up language. I mean in stuff like Star Wars, most of the characters speak English. What about the humans that are there? Unless I am remembering wrong, aren't there other humans that are experimented on by the apes besides the other astronaut? You are right about the English alone though. That is done quite a bit in sci-fi movies, because they need the characters to be able understand each other, even if it doesn't make much sense that they would.
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Post by jcush on Aug 8, 2021 21:28:59 GMT
I've heard some people say that the twist is obvious because the apes speak English. I knew the twist before I watched the movie, but even if I hadn't I don't think I would have guessed. I would have just assumed the apes speaking English was a suspension of disbelief thing to make it more accessible, rather than having them speak some made up language. I mean in stuff like Star Wars, most of the characters speak English. What about the humans that are there? Unless I am remembering wrong, aren't there other humans that are experimented on by the apes besides the other astronaut? You are right about the English alone though. That is done quite a bit in sci-fi movies, because they need the characters to be able understand each other, even if it doesn't make much sense that they would. There are other humans, but none of them can talk. That's why it's a big shock to the apes when Taylor says "Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape."
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 8, 2021 21:36:03 GMT
What about the humans that are there? Unless I am remembering wrong, aren't there other humans that are experimented on by the apes besides the other astronaut? You are right about the English alone though. That is done quite a bit in sci-fi movies, because they need the characters to be able understand each other, even if it doesn't make much sense that they would. There are other humans, but none of them can talk. That's why it's a big shock to the apes when Taylor says "Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape." Yes, I get that. My point is that not only are there humanoid apes who speak English, but also people who look exactly like humans. It is in afterthought that it seems like it should be obvious. The planet they land on certainly has a lot of stuff in common with Earth.
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Post by jcush on Aug 8, 2021 21:41:42 GMT
There are other humans, but none of them can talk. That's why it's a big shock to the apes when Taylor says "Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape." Yes, I get that. My point is that not only are there humanoid apes who speak English, but also people who look exactly like humans. It is in afterthought that it seems like it should be obvious. The planet they land on certainly has a lot of stuff in common with Earth. Yeah, but they basically act like cavemen, so that might be why he doesn't assume he's on earth. Plus if there is life on other planets, I've never really understood why people think that there's no chance that they'd look like humans.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 8, 2021 21:43:54 GMT
Yes, I get that. My point is that not only are there humanoid apes who speak English, but also people who look exactly like humans. It is in afterthought that it seems like it should be obvious. The planet they land on certainly has a lot of stuff in common with Earth. Yeah, but they basically act like cavemen, so that might be why he doesn't assume he's on earth. Plus if there is life on other planets, I've never really understood why people think that there's no chance that they'd look like humans. The odds that another planet would produce life that looks exactly like humans is probably like a trillion to 1.
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Post by jcush on Aug 8, 2021 21:47:25 GMT
Yeah, but they basically act like cavemen, so that might be why he doesn't assume he's on earth. Plus if there is life on other planets, I've never really understood why people think that there's no chance that they'd look like humans. The odds that another planet would produce life that looks exactly like humans is probably like a trillion to 1. I'll take your word for it.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 8, 2021 21:56:39 GMT
The odds that another planet would produce life that looks exactly like humans is probably like a trillion to 1. I'll take your word for it. More of a guess, which is why I said probably. To be fair Star Wars basically does the same thing, but even moreso. I don't know why I am harping on POTA so much.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 8, 2021 22:11:04 GMT
The odds that another planet would produce life that looks exactly like humans is probably like a trillion to 1. I'll take your word for it. I just find this stuff interesting. The Drake equation suggests that it is likely that there are more than one advanced species in the universe, but I think the odds that any of the species on another planet would look like us is extremely slim. For anyone who is interested, there are an estimated 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Aug 8, 2021 22:40:25 GMT
When you think about it, everyone in the audience should have guessed this was Earth. I mean there are apes speaking English and people that look like humans being controlled by the apes. I've heard some people say that the twist is obvious because the apes speak English. I knew the twist before I watched the movie, but even if I hadn't I don't think I would have guessed. I would have just assumed the apes speaking English was a suspension of disbelief thing to make it more accessible, rather than having them speak some made up language. I mean in stuff like Star Wars, most of the characters speak English.
I would have loved if the movie had Taylor not understanding the Apes' new language, and learning it along the way... after months of captivity. That would have covered the twist.
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Post by Nalkarj on Aug 10, 2021 16:51:28 GMT
My ranking is pretty stable, at least by my fickle standards…
1. Planet of the Apes (1968) 2. Beneath the Planet of the Apes (some of the best lines in the series, only sequel that looks like the original, and that mutant-human stuff is joyfully bonkers) 3. Escape from the Planet of the Apes (really good first half dialogue- and acting-wise, but the movie looks flat and the second half drags) 4. Battle for the Planet of the Apes (cheap, and unintentionally hilarious, but fun) 5. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (just boring, alas)
I don’t hate the Tim Burton Planet (2001), which like all Burtons at least shows imagination and visual style.
The newer ones I didn’t like that much. Rise was OK, but Dawn I didn’t like at all, so I never saw War. They all just seem so modern-blockbuster-y, visually uninteresting and sans any good dialogue.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Aug 11, 2021 9:58:28 GMT
BATTLE is exciting and stunning. I can't find anything "unintentionally funny" on there, quite frankly...
Also, all 4 sequels look fantastic, given their relatively-low budget. They look far better than many modern movies, no contest here, and they are "A-Movies" from a production standpoint.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Aug 13, 2021 0:32:58 GMT
Do you think it was always an intention of the writers of the first movie to place the Nuclear War at the end of the 20th century? For a moment, just forget the sequels... do you think there's enough evidence in the first movie to think that the Nuclear War occurred at the end of the 20th century and not FURTHER, in subsequent centuries?
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Sept 3, 2021 9:46:57 GMT
I love this thread.
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