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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 18, 2017 7:16:53 GMT
All weapons/vehicles/etc. on the table; so like Batman can fly the Batwing, drive the Batmobile, etc., and Iron Man can fly... himself and has full use of any/all Stark technology just as Bruce is free to raid R&D at Wayne Enterprises.
So who wins in a fight to the death?
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Post by barkingbaphomet on May 18, 2017 8:17:02 GMT
if i were writing it, Batman. i see this as coming down to a battle of wits moreso than a tech war. they both have effectively limitless resources. Stark is a brilliant engineer but i don't think he could match Batman's cunning. Batman would also fight dirtier, quicker.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 18, 2017 8:50:31 GMT
Depends which Batman we are talking abaut: The silly 60ies "Boom/Bang" Bats would probably lose. But the Bats in Miller's TDKR or BvS would win the fight easily, because he is a mean, ultra-focused, get-it-done bitch. Hell, he defeated Supes, and silly Ironman was not even able to beat Cap America. Only thing that could save Ironman from being beaten into a third-row pulp character again would be if his mom was called "Martha" or similar...then again, Ironman would probably ruin it with his juvenile " I don't care, he killed my mom" attitude, and continue brawling. You just cannot win with all these juvenile characters with mommy issues...
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 13:06:02 GMT
All weapons/vehicles/etc. on the table; so like Batman can fly the Batwing, drive the Batmobile, etc., and Iron Man can fly... himself and has full use of any/all Stark technology just as Bruce is free to raid R&D at Wayne Enterprises. So who wins in a fight to the death? As much as i like Iron Man, Batman would take the cake.
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Post by misstique on May 18, 2017 15:37:08 GMT
I'm gonna go with Batman too. He's probably more intelligent and cunning. He relies more on the ninja-style of stalking and fighting. he also knows martial arts and is a great fighter when it comes to hand-to-hand combat. Iron Man on the other hand is predictable in his fighting, he announces himself and just comes straight ahead. Besides, Stark isn't a skilled fighter.
Even if you take away all of their gadgets and suits, Wayne could easily knock out Stark.
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Post by Skaathar on May 18, 2017 16:40:34 GMT
So much Batman wanking here. Ironman's weaponry is far more lethal and more powerful than what Batman has. Homing missiles, 360 lasers, guided mini rocket, repulsors...
Then there's the fact that IM is way way more durable and can actually fly.
Stark is also not conflicted about killing his opponents if necessary.
Even in h2h combat IM wins. Anyone who can go toe to toe with Thor and outfight Cap will decimate Batman.
Basically the only way Batman wins this is via plot device. If the plot is written such that he wins.
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Post by Skaathar on May 18, 2017 16:41:42 GMT
I'm gonna go with Batman too. He's probably more intelligent and cunning. He relies more on the ninja-style of stalking and fighting. he also knows martial arts and is a great fighter when it comes to hand-to-hand combat. Iron Man on the other hand is predictable in his fighting, he announces himself and just comes straight ahead. Besides, Stark isn't a skilled fighter. Even if you take away all of their gadgets and suits, Wayne could easily knock out Stark. Guess you didn't see the part in Civil War where IM outfought Cap.
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Post by sdrew13163 on May 18, 2017 16:45:51 GMT
Batman. The two cancel each other out with technology and wit. Therefore, physically, Batman is much more powerful, so he wins.
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Post by Skaathar on May 18, 2017 16:57:54 GMT
Batman. The two cancel each other out with technology and wit. Therefore, physically, Batman is much more powerful, so he wins. Except Tony's technology is actually better. Can you imagine Batman going through the opponents IM has faced and actually winning?
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Post by Skaathar on May 18, 2017 16:59:33 GMT
All weapons/vehicles/etc. on the table; so like Batman can fly the Batwing, drive the Batmobile, etc., and Iron Man can fly... himself and has full use of any/all Stark technology just as Bruce is free to raid R&D at Wayne Enterprises. So who wins in a fight to the death? If Stark gets all his toys that means he has his automated suits from IM3 and the Iron Legion from AoU. Batman is fucked.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 17:07:22 GMT
Iron Man. He will just start kicking ass while Batsy wants to have a dark deep meaningful philosofical discussion with Alfred first. After all what is Batman without some dark stuff.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 18, 2017 17:20:40 GMT
All weapons/vehicles/etc. on the table; so like Batman can fly the Batwing, drive the Batmobile, etc., and Iron Man can fly... himself and has full use of any/all Stark technology just as Bruce is free to raid R&D at Wayne Enterprises. So who wins in a fight to the death? If Stark gets all his toys that means he has his automated suits from IM3 and the Iron Legion from AoU. Batman is fucked. Yep, both have access to whatever array of weapons, tech, etc., you want under your ideal conditions.
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Post by movielover on May 18, 2017 17:22:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 17:37:07 GMT
Batman. The two cancel each other out with technology and wit. Therefore, physically, Batman is much more powerful, so he wins. Except Tony's technology is actually better. Can you imagine Batman going through the opponents IM has faced and actually winning? Yes. Can you see IM going against supes and actually winning?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 17:37:48 GMT
How far along in the MCU's timeline is Tony for this fight.
If he's only Ironman 1 Tony: Batman, easily. Ironman 2: still Batman. Post-Avengers Tony: This is where it starts getting harder for Batsy, because now he has a legion of automated suits. And if we take things clear to directly Post-Age of Ultron/Civil War, Tony has learned hand-to-hand combat, himself, has hyper versatile arsenal for every occasion, and a fully sentient robot son and bodyguard powered by an Infinity Stone.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 17:47:23 GMT
All weapons/vehicles/etc. on the table; so like Batman can fly the Batwing, drive the Batmobile, etc., and Iron Man can fly... himself and has full use of any/all Stark technology just as Bruce is free to raid R&D at Wayne Enterprises. So who wins in a fight to the death? If Stark gets all his toys that means he has his automated suits from IM3 and the Iron Legion from AoU. Batman is fucked. Don't forget the Hulkbuster...
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Post by Skaathar on May 18, 2017 17:53:38 GMT
Except Tony's technology is actually better. Can you imagine Batman going through the opponents IM has faced and actually winning? Yes. Can you see IM going against supes and actually winning? With Kryptonite? Absolutely. Heck he'd destroy Superman a lot faster. Probably would have made kryptonite bullets instead of a spear. Now, can you see Batman surviving a random encounter against Thor for as long as IM did?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 17:54:50 GMT
Yes. Can you see IM going against supes and actually winning? With Kryptonite? Absolutely. Heck he'd destroy Superman a lot faster. Now, can you see Batman surviving a random encounter against Thor for as long as IM did? No, because Thor doesn't have any convenient weaknesses like Supes. Batman would have to call Superman just break even.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 18:10:54 GMT
Might lean towards Iron Man given they're almost equal but Tony fights to kill and has slightly better tech but Bruce has the upper hand in terms of fighting intelligence and combat skill.
Black Panther on the other hand would easily beat Batman. Given he's similar to Batman but is far more superior in terms of fighting style, has better Tech, can actually put up a fight without his suit unlike Tony and is physically stronger and faster than Bruce even without his tech
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 18:14:32 GMT
How far along in the MCU's timeline is Tony for this fight. If he's only Ironman 1 Tony: Batman, easily. Ironman 2: still Batman. Post-Avengers Tony: This is where it starts getting harder for Batsy, because now he has a legion of automated suits. And if we take things clear to directly Post-Age of Ultron/Civil War, Tony has learned hand-to-hand combat, himself, has hyper versatile arsenal for every occasion, and a fully sentient robot son and bodyguard powered by an Infinity Stone. Yeah it would depend on what iteration we are talking about. Or else we can just say well "Whoever has the infinity gauntlet. I think a better question would be the opposite. Without any tech who would win? Bruce Wayne easily.
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