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Post by mikef6 on Dec 12, 2021 16:27:21 GMT
Doctor Who (New Series) 2014 Christmas Special. "Last Christmas"
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 17, 2021 4:24:23 GMT
“Christmas Party,” A Nero Wolfe Mystery, S1:E9.
Lots of people love this show. I should be one of them—I love old mysteries, old New York atmosphere, and the 1940s and like the Nero Wolfe characters—but… I dunno. I find so many episodes just so dull.
Part of the reason is that source-material author Rex Stout’s plots were generally weak; a few of the Wolfe novels and novellas have strong plots (Too Many Cooks, Some Buried Caesar, and “Black Orchids” spring to mind), but in general Stout was one of the weakest puzzle-plotters of the so-called Golden Age of Detective Fiction (roughly ’20s-late ’40s).
Stout’s real strength was his dialogue, his witty repartee, and unfortunately many of the Nero Wolfe Mystery scripts lose that dialogue. Maury Chaykin, as Wolfe, and Timothy Hutton, as Archie Goodwin, give decent performances but don’t really look (and, in Chaykin’s case, sound) like the Stout characters. The supporting casts tend to be, not to put too fine a point on it, bad.
And the episodes are just so blandly filmed, making a high-budgeted show look cheap. “Christmas Party,” the episode I watched tonight, exemplifies all of these flaws.
Still, I keep watching from time to time in the hopes that I’ll see an episode I wholeheartedly like!
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 17, 2021 20:49:44 GMT
“Christmas Party,” A Nero Wolfe Mystery, S1:E9. Lots of people love this show. I should be one of them—I love old mysteries and the 1940s and like the Nero Wolfe characters—but… I dunno. I find so many episodes just so dull. Part of the reason is that Rex Stout’s plots were generally weak; a few of the Wolfe novels and novellas ( Too Many Cooks, Some Buried Caesar, and “Black Orchids” spring to mind) have strong plots, but in general Stout was one of the weakest puzzle-plotters of the so-called Golden Age of Detective Fiction (roughly ’20s-late ’40s). Stout’s real strength was his dialogue, his witty repartee, and unfortunately many of the Nero Wolfe Mystery scripts lose that dialogue. Maury Chaykin, as Wolfe, and Timothy Hutton, as Archie Goodwin, give decent performances but don’t really look like the Stout characters. The supporting casts tend to be, not to put too fine a point on it, bad. And the episodes are just so blandly filmed, making a high-budgeted show look cheap. “Christmas Party,” the episode I watched tonight, exemplifies all of these flaws. Still, I keep watching from time to time in the hopes that I’ll see an episode I wholeheartedly like! Have you seen the Nero Wolfe series from 1981 with William Conrad?
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 17, 2021 20:57:51 GMT
“Christmas Party,” A Nero Wolfe Mystery, S1:E9. Have you seen the Nero Wolfe series from 1981 with William Conrad? Nope, just the Chaykin-Hutton series, TV-wise. (I’ve also listened to the Sydney Greenstreet radio show and watched the ’30s movies.) Any good?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 17, 2021 21:12:53 GMT
Have you seen the Nero Wolfe series from 1981 with William Conrad? Nope, just the Chaykin-Hutton series, TV-wise. (I’ve also listened to the Sydney Greenstreet radio show and watched the ’30s movies.) Any good? Well there's only 14 episodes and I watched them all when they first aired but I was pretty young and don't really remember how good they were. I remember liking the character as portrayed by Conrad.
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Post by MCDemuth on Dec 17, 2021 21:14:32 GMT
Taking another Trek through The Animated Series... I keep forgetting how great the series was for a cartoon.
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Post by MCDemuth on Dec 17, 2021 21:20:37 GMT
Doctor Who (New Series) 2014 Christmas Special. "Last Christmas" " There's a horror movie called Alien?... That's really offensive!..."
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 22, 2021 21:43:35 GMT
I’m watching (via YouTube) a 1984 mystery TV movie called A Talent for Murder. Starring Angela Lansbury and Laurence Olivier, adapted (word-for-word?) from the play of the same name by Jerome Chodorov (Wonderful Town) and Norman Panama (Road to Utopia, Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House).
This is basically a filmed play, which is fine except that, needless to say, theater is always better as genuine theater. I’m only about a half hour into it, but so far the problem is the supporting cast. Lansbury and Olivier, of course, know how to play this material—slightly tongue-in-cheek, but never so far that it becomes campy—but the rest of the cast seem amateurish, spoiling some funny lines. Anyway, will chime back in when I finish the thing.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 22, 2021 22:19:54 GMT
Oh, and while we’re on the subject of filmed plays, I forgot to mention I watched the 1975 TV adaptation of It’s a Bird… It’s a Plane… It’s Superman (1966), a.k.a. the Superman musical, which I’ve seen mocked for its premise but which is a really fun and funny show.
Again, filmed theater ≠ theater, but this TV adaptation is a lot of fun nonetheless. The songs, by lyricist Lee Adams (Bye Bye Birdie) and composer Charles Strouse (Bye Bye Birdie, Annie), aren’t that well sung or staged, but the jokes nearly all hit (“Stay tuned to see if Superman makes it in the next chapter, ‘Superman Makes It!’”).
The show, with its original book (by David Newman and Robert Benson, who later cowrote the Christopher Reeve Superman), probably couldn’t be revived nowadays for the weird reason that it makes a joke out of Superman. It’s not a mean or a cynical joke, but its take on Supes is basically silly.
Nowadays, when we take superheroes so darn seriously, that approach probably wouldn’t fly—the major reason, probably, that when the Dallas Theater Center revived the show in 2010 it brought in a comic-book writer to make the book more straight.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 23, 2021 3:22:39 GMT
I’m watching (via YouTube) a 1984 mystery TV movie called A Talent for Murder. Finished it. It doesn’t work as a mystery/thriller—the murderer’s identity is at once easy to guess and impossible to deduce—but it does, in the end, as a play about two old friends. Olivier is pretty lovable here. A big problem with suspense plays is putting the major twist at the first-act curtain: That happens with Sleuth, Deathtrap, others that I’m blanking on. That structuring makes sense, leaving audiences in suspense during intermission, but it creates this situation where the second-act twists don’t live up to what came before. Deathtrap has such a shocking first-act twist that everything Ira Levin does afterwards kinda comes off as anticlimax. And that happens here too: The big twist is that Lansbury’s daughter-in-law, not Lansbury, is the victim. That’s not especially shocking, though the basic concept could probably be used to better effect, but either way everything afterwards seems like a letdown. Still, just seeing Olivier and Lansbury work hard on roles they could have easily phoned in makes A Talent for Murder fun.
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Post by mcclance on Dec 31, 2021 21:32:00 GMT
In terms of classic TV shows, I've been watching Dad's Army. Currently in Season 3.
Everything else I'm watching is from 10 years ago.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 31, 2021 22:51:07 GMT
Decades has a THREE DAY Twilight Zone BINGE going on peeking in now and then ... just watched Willoughby
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 1, 2022 0:32:14 GMT
Decades has a THREE DAY Twilight Zone BINGE going on peeking in now and then ... just watched Willoughby SyFy does too.
"My name is Talky Tina and I'm going to fuck you up, Kojak!"
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 17, 2022 19:53:29 GMT
Watched Alfred Hitchcock Presents’ “Into Thin Air” (S1:E5), which I hadn’t seen since I was a kid. Great episode—probably one of the show’s best, though I have to rewatch more to be sure. It’s a retelling of the old “Paris Exposition” story, which has been reported as a true story but is likely an urban legend. Hitchcock’s The Lady Vanishes was based on an Ethel Lina White book that was in turn based on this story. Hitchcock didn’t direct this ep himself—the director is Don Medford, who went on to have an extensive TV career ( The Twilight Zone, The Man from U.N.C.L.E., The Fugitive)—but the atmospherics are good, and the episode moves so fast. It’s just a good, fun retelling of a good, fun story. Starring Hitchcock’s daughter Patricia, by the way.
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 18, 2022 17:55:09 GMT
The Good Place. 4 Seasons, 53 Episodes. NBC. Sep 2016- Jan 2020. I had already seen the first two seasons of this masterwork of consistently inventive comedy. Now, I have watched nothing but every episode straight through, 3 or 4 a night for two weeks. (Is it a binge if it takes two weeks?). Starring Kristin Bell and Ted Danson.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 18, 2022 23:04:48 GMT
Just watched, via YouTube, a surprisingly interesting TV-movie Matrix knockoff called Virtual Nightmare (2000). It’s nothing amazing, but it’s a perfectly serviceable what-is-reality story that I think is actually better thought out than The Thirteenth Floor, which it’s also ripping off. Acting mostly decent, special effects nonexistent but I’m fine with that, a few clever lines (I particularly like “fast-acting placebo”). It kind of reminded me of what Fox in the Snow said he wanted here: “an entire film taking place in the Matrix with people wondering why these slightly strange things are happening.”
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 19, 2022 0:18:45 GMT
Just watched, via YouTube, a surprisingly interesting TV-movie Matrix knockoff called Virtual Nightmare (2000). It’s nothing amazing, but it’s a perfectly serviceable what-is-reality story that I think is actually better thought out than The Thirteenth Floor, which it’s also ripping off. Acting mostly decent, special effects nonexistent but I’m fine with that, a few clever lines (I particularly like “fast-acting placebo”). It kind of reminded me of what Fox in the Snow said he wanted here: “an entire film taking place in the Matrix with people wondering why these slightly strange things are happening.” Cool. I might try and give it a look this week. Thanks
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 19, 2022 0:25:19 GMT
The Good Place. 4 Seasons, 53 Episodes. NBC. Sep 2016- Jan 2020. I had already seen the first two seasons of this masterwork of consistently inventive comedy. Now, I have watched nothing but every episode straight through, 3 or 4 a night for two weeks. (Is it a binge if it takes two weeks?). Starring Kristin Bell and Ted Danson. Such a great show. Very inventive. Almost a little too much for it's own good at times.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 19, 2022 16:44:46 GMT
Cool. I might try and give it a look this week. Thanks I mean, I don’t want to overhype this: It is a low-budget TV movie, and it’s far from amazing. But I had a fun time watching it, and it did remind me of what you wrote.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 25, 2022 3:38:28 GMT
Another Ellery Queen, “The Black Falcon”—which, glad to say, I liked far more than “The Mad Tea-Party.” Brad at the Ah Sweet Mystery! blog is rewatching and reviewing all the EQ episodes and gave this one a high ranking, which inspired me to rewatch. This wasn’t one of my favorite episodes from memory, but watching it again made me agree with Brad: It’s a neat, clever, well-acted episode with few dull moments and one of the series’s best casts. Too bad that Roddy McDowall doesn’t have a bigger part, but always good to see him pop up in anything. The ’40s atmosphere is also good, even inviting. The mystery plot isn’t especially complex, except by comparison with Murder, She Wrote or Diagnosis: Murder, but it’s nicely presented and has some fun twists and turns. Just a good piece of television, what a mystery show should be.
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