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Post by Admin on Jan 29, 2022 6:16:26 GMT
Doesn't seem fair, does it? When a young girl is raped by an older man, she's the victim of a horrible crime. But when a young boy is raped by an older woman, he puts a notch on his belt and high-fives his friends. I don't know why that is, but I'd bet it has something to do with snakes, snails, puppy dog tails, sugar, spice, and everything nice. And if a young girl is molested by a woman? What's that? But a boy being molested by an older man, that's unspeakable, and strangely that's become the first and foremost image of pedophiles, for some reason society thinks they tend to leave little girls alone. As to the boy being considered lucky if a woman sleeps with him, nobody stops to ponder what if he's gay? It's almost as if there are differences between boys and girls. Did MJ ever have girls at his sleepovers? If he's gay, I can only assume he wouldn't be high-fiving his friends.
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Post by novastar6 on Jan 29, 2022 14:58:08 GMT
And if a young girl is molested by a woman? What's that? But a boy being molested by an older man, that's unspeakable, and strangely that's become the first and foremost image of pedophiles, for some reason society thinks they tend to leave little girls alone. As to the boy being considered lucky if a woman sleeps with him, nobody stops to ponder what if he's gay? It's almost as if there are differences between boys and girls. Did MJ ever have girls at his sleepovers? If he's gay, I can only assume he wouldn't be high-fiving his friends.
Yeah, he did, some of which testified at the trial. That's another issue, all anybody says is he 'had boys for sleepovers', nobody was there, nobody can produce a roster of who all was there, and when people who WERE there actually talk about it, it doesn't fit the 'durrrh child molester, he only wanted boys' narrative so it's buried, like the kids who wouldn't support Parkland's 'shame on you! BS! Ban guns!' script were dropped from CNN's interviews and big dance numbers and funded bus tours.
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Post by Admin on Jan 29, 2022 22:28:29 GMT
It's almost as if there are differences between boys and girls. Did MJ ever have girls at his sleepovers? If he's gay, I can only assume he wouldn't be high-fiving his friends. Yeah, he did, some of which testified at the trial. That's another issue, all anybody says is he 'had boys for sleepovers', nobody was there, nobody can produce a roster of who all was there, and when people who WERE there actually talk about it, it doesn't fit the 'durrrh child molester, he only wanted boys' narrative so it's buried, like the kids who wouldn't support Parkland's 'shame on you! BS! Ban guns!' script were dropped from CNN's interviews and big dance numbers and funded bus tours.
"Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jackson’s on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there." What happens now? You still ok with a sleepover?
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Post by novastar6 on Jan 30, 2022 0:35:21 GMT
Yeah, he did, some of which testified at the trial. That's another issue, all anybody says is he 'had boys for sleepovers', nobody was there, nobody can produce a roster of who all was there, and when people who WERE there actually talk about it, it doesn't fit the 'durrrh child molester, he only wanted boys' narrative so it's buried, like the kids who wouldn't support Parkland's 'shame on you! BS! Ban guns!' script were dropped from CNN's interviews and big dance numbers and funded bus tours.
"Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jackson’s on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there." What happens now? You still ok with a sleepover?
Everybody's known since the trial that Michael Jackson had a collection of adult hetero porn, the prosecution had a whole laundry list of magazines, the sculptures is a new one on me, exactly where and who offered that tidbit? But during the trial, the defense proved the magazine 'oh yes, both their prints are on it, PROOF!', not only didn't exist at the time in question, but got Gavin Arvizo to admit the D.A. gave it to him to hold with no gloves on, meaning the 'evidence' was tainted.
Also, this is an argument that's never made sense to me. For years people said MJ must be gay because he's never publicly seen with any women he's dating, he doesn't announce his sex life. Cops find a mountain of mags/pics of naked women, and now that's proof he's into little boys. By that logic, about every man in America should be on the sex offender registry because they all like looking at porn, most of it of naked grown women, which must make them all pedophiles. Pretty sure about every dad in America has a porn collection somewhere in their home that's not in a safe or under lock and key, so do we arrest every man for being a blatant pedophile that a nosy 12 year old child with no regard for someone's personal belongings could go digging and find it?
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Post by jeffersoncody on Jan 30, 2022 8:15:55 GMT
Like Michael Jackson, Bill Cosby is as guilty as sin. He only got out of jail though a technicality.Sorry, I'm still not buying. 65 women and not one of them uttered a word until Gloria Allred appeared?
Now Jackson, yeah, the evidence against him is insurmountable. Cosby? Nah, I'm not buying it. Don't fool yourself Gameboy. Like Harvey Weinstein, Cosby had a team of lawyers harassing, threatening and following his accusers. Cosby's perverted control issues were an open secret in Hollywood for years. Too tired and too hungover to argue with you now, but would highly recommend you watch the new 4-part Showtime documentary WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT COSBY, it will answer all your questions.
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Post by Admin on Jan 30, 2022 22:45:50 GMT
"Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jackson’s on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there." What happens now? You still ok with a sleepover? Everybody's known since the trial that Michael Jackson had a collection of adult hetero porn, the prosecution had a whole laundry list of magazines, the sculptures is a new one on me, exactly where and who offered that tidbit? But during the trial, the defense proved the magazine 'oh yes, both their prints are on it, PROOF!', not only didn't exist at the time in question, but got Gavin Arvizo to admit the D.A. gave it to him to hold with no gloves on, meaning the 'evidence' was tainted.
Also, this is an argument that's never made sense to me. For years people said MJ must be gay because he's never publicly seen with any women he's dating, he doesn't announce his sex life. Cops find a mountain of mags/pics of naked women, and now that's proof he's into little boys. By that logic, about every man in America should be on the sex offender registry because they all like looking at porn, most of it of naked grown women, which must make them all pedophiles. Pretty sure about every dad in America has a porn collection somewhere in their home that's not in a safe or under lock and key, so do we arrest every man for being a blatant pedophile that a nosy 12 year old child with no regard for someone's personal belongings could go digging and find it?
Knowing what you know now, would you have let your kids sleep in his bed with him?
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Post by novastar6 on Jan 30, 2022 23:48:13 GMT
Everybody's known since the trial that Michael Jackson had a collection of adult hetero porn, the prosecution had a whole laundry list of magazines, the sculptures is a new one on me, exactly where and who offered that tidbit? But during the trial, the defense proved the magazine 'oh yes, both their prints are on it, PROOF!', not only didn't exist at the time in question, but got Gavin Arvizo to admit the D.A. gave it to him to hold with no gloves on, meaning the 'evidence' was tainted.
Also, this is an argument that's never made sense to me. For years people said MJ must be gay because he's never publicly seen with any women he's dating, he doesn't announce his sex life. Cops find a mountain of mags/pics of naked women, and now that's proof he's into little boys. By that logic, about every man in America should be on the sex offender registry because they all like looking at porn, most of it of naked grown women, which must make them all pedophiles. Pretty sure about every dad in America has a porn collection somewhere in their home that's not in a safe or under lock and key, so do we arrest every man for being a blatant pedophile that a nosy 12 year old child with no regard for someone's personal belongings could go digging and find it?
Knowing what you know now, would you have let your kids sleep in his bed with him?
I can't answer that because I don't have any kids so I don't know what I'd do with them, but if I'd had the chance to as a kid, I would've in a heartbeat.
Here are all the biggies that present a massive problem with this case. Not a single accuser was ever found to be credible. Not a single witness for the prosecution was found to be credible. Nobody who said they actually SAW boys being abused ever thought to call the cops and didn't say anything until they were paid for their stories, which an article published in 1994 found 'witnesses' would be paid $10,000 MORE if they said a boy was touched inside his pants vs. outside, only everybody who wants money would have an incentive to lie and up the ante on the details. There's no physical evidence, no child porn either in photos or digital or homemade, no flash drives full of homemade kiddie porn, and no accusers before he was 35 years old, even now, even with him dead when victims would feel safe about coming forward, there has been nobody. So if we literally can't believe a word ANYBODY says who says he did it, there's no case. All there is is a guy who didn't conform, and that was just unacceptable for society. Society decided as a rich successful black man he wasn't allowed to spend his money the way he wanted to, he should've spent it on things THEY thought he should, and they wouldn't think there was anything wrong with him. Drugs, hookers, guns, all fine, that's a rock star, a movie theater, an amusement park, and let people come there for free, nobody in the world is that pure of heart, he MUST be doing something felonious.
Now are most men in the world that purehearted? No, but what're really the odds in 8 billion people there couldn't be a single one?
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Post by Admin on Jan 30, 2022 23:57:04 GMT
Knowing what you know now, would you have let your kids sleep in his bed with him? I can't answer that because I don't have any kids so I don't know what I'd do with them, but if I'd had the chance to as a kid, I would've in a heartbeat. Here are all the biggies that present a massive problem with this case. Not a single accuser was ever found to be credible. Not a single witness for the prosecution was found to be credible. Nobody who said they actually SAW boys being abused ever thought to call the cops and didn't say anything until they were paid for their stories, which an article published in 1994 found 'witnesses' would be paid $10,000 MORE if they said a boy was touched inside his pants vs. outside, only everybody who wants money would have an incentive to lie and up the ante on the details. There's no physical evidence, no child porn either in photos or digital or homemade, no flash drives full of homemade kiddie porn, and no accusers before he was 35 years old, even now, even with him dead when victims would feel safe about coming forward, there has been nobody. So if we literally can't believe a word ANYBODY says who says he did it, there's no case. All there is is a guy who didn't conform, and that was just unacceptable for society. Society decided as a rich successful black man he wasn't allowed to spend his money the way he wanted to, he should've spent it on things THEY thought he should, and they wouldn't think there was anything wrong with him. Drugs, hookers, guns, all fine, that's a rock star, a movie theater, an amusement park, and let people come there for free, nobody in the world is that pure of heart, he MUST be doing something felonious.
Now are most men in the world that purehearted? No, but what're really the odds in 8 billion people there couldn't be a single one?
You don’t actually need kids to answer the question, and you’re overlooking a few things. For example, the kid who accurately described his penis. It’s inappropriate for a 35-year-old man to have sleepovers with children. MJ doesn’t get a pass simply because he was a celebrity with a house that attracted little kids.
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Post by novastar6 on Jan 31, 2022 4:31:10 GMT
I can't answer that because I don't have any kids so I don't know what I'd do with them, but if I'd had the chance to as a kid, I would've in a heartbeat. Here are all the biggies that present a massive problem with this case. Not a single accuser was ever found to be credible. Not a single witness for the prosecution was found to be credible. Nobody who said they actually SAW boys being abused ever thought to call the cops and didn't say anything until they were paid for their stories, which an article published in 1994 found 'witnesses' would be paid $10,000 MORE if they said a boy was touched inside his pants vs. outside, only everybody who wants money would have an incentive to lie and up the ante on the details. There's no physical evidence, no child porn either in photos or digital or homemade, no flash drives full of homemade kiddie porn, and no accusers before he was 35 years old, even now, even with him dead when victims would feel safe about coming forward, there has been nobody. So if we literally can't believe a word ANYBODY says who says he did it, there's no case. All there is is a guy who didn't conform, and that was just unacceptable for society. Society decided as a rich successful black man he wasn't allowed to spend his money the way he wanted to, he should've spent it on things THEY thought he should, and they wouldn't think there was anything wrong with him. Drugs, hookers, guns, all fine, that's a rock star, a movie theater, an amusement park, and let people come there for free, nobody in the world is that pure of heart, he MUST be doing something felonious.
Now are most men in the world that purehearted? No, but what're really the odds in 8 billion people there couldn't be a single one?
You don’t actually need kids to answer the question, and you’re overlooking a few things. For example, the kid who accurately described his penis. It’s inappropriate for a 35-year-old man to have sleepovers with children. MJ doesn’t get a pass simply because he was a celebrity with a house that attracted little kids.
I'm not overlooking it, everybody who says 'accurately' overlooks the problem he said MJ was circumcised and he wasn't. Even among people who say it matched, can't agree on what matched, some say he described vitiligo spots, some say it was a birthmark, some even said it was a tattoo, so which of these is the accurate one? Chandler filled in a picture, cops took pictures, but the two of these have not been shown to the public to prove to us that they matched. They were never even presented in court to prove they matched. All we have is the word of cops and a DA who SAID they matched, some of whom were proven to falsify evidence in their cases. So again, we can't believe anybody involved, if they want to actually SHOW us those pictures AND the drawing to compare, then that'll be another thing. What's very telling though is none of the other accusers were ever asked to also make a drawing to compare to the original drawing. And the only explanation for that one is the end result would be like the 'which tire?' joke.
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Post by Admin on Jan 31, 2022 4:53:33 GMT
You don’t actually need kids to answer the question, and you’re overlooking a few things. For example, the kid who accurately described his penis. It’s inappropriate for a 35-year-old man to have sleepovers with children. MJ doesn’t get a pass simply because he was a celebrity with a house that attracted little kids. I'm not overlooking it, everybody who says 'accurately' overlooks the problem he said MJ was circumcised and he wasn't. Even among people who say it matched, can't agree on what matched, some say he described vitiligo spots, some say it was a birthmark, some even said it was a tattoo, so which of these is the accurate one? Chandler filled in a picture, cops took pictures, but the two of these have not been shown to the public to prove to us that they matched. They were never even presented in court to prove they matched. All we have is the word of cops and a DA who SAID they matched, some of whom were proven to falsify evidence in their cases. So again, we can't believe anybody involved, if they want to actually SHOW us those pictures AND the drawing to compare, then that'll be another thing. What's very telling though is none of the other accusers were ever asked to also make a drawing to compare to the original drawing. And the only explanation for that one is the end result would be like the 'which tire?' joke. Of course there will be always be accusers who lie, especially when there's money involved. The fact that he was acquitted of all charges works in his favor, too. But I doubt there are very many adults of sound mind who don't cringe when they see MJ and that kid snuggling on the couch during Walters' interview. Jacko wasn't exactly the poster child for honesty, either. Or sanity for that matter. js
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Post by novastar6 on Jan 31, 2022 5:51:37 GMT
I'm not overlooking it, everybody who says 'accurately' overlooks the problem he said MJ was circumcised and he wasn't. Even among people who say it matched, can't agree on what matched, some say he described vitiligo spots, some say it was a birthmark, some even said it was a tattoo, so which of these is the accurate one? Chandler filled in a picture, cops took pictures, but the two of these have not been shown to the public to prove to us that they matched. They were never even presented in court to prove they matched. All we have is the word of cops and a DA who SAID they matched, some of whom were proven to falsify evidence in their cases. So again, we can't believe anybody involved, if they want to actually SHOW us those pictures AND the drawing to compare, then that'll be another thing. What's very telling though is none of the other accusers were ever asked to also make a drawing to compare to the original drawing. And the only explanation for that one is the end result would be like the 'which tire?' joke. Of course there will be always be accusers who lie, especially when there's money involved. The fact that he was acquitted of all charges works in his favor, too. But I doubt there are very many adults of sound mind who don't cringe when they see MJ and that kid snuggling on the couch during Walters' interview. Jacko wasn't exactly the poster child for honesty, either. Or sanity for that matter. js
None of which makes him a pedophile. It's indisputable Gary Glitter, another famous rock star, was a pedophile, because the first time he was arrested for it, cops found 800+ images of child porn on his computer, the 2nd time he got arrested was for having sex with 10 year old girls in Vietnam, then a 3rd time in connection to Saville. And Saville we can believe was a pedophile because as soon as he was dead, boom, 1400 posthumous allegations. In the 10+ years MJ's been dead, there's been a grand total of 3 accusers, 2 of which wanted to get his estate's billion dollars, and the third one was a woman, who since she didn't fit the 'little boys' narrative, was promptly buried in the press because nobody wanted to read her story.
Ian Watkins, lead singer of the group Lost Prophets, he was a pedophile, of this there was no doubt, but the judge didn't just throw the book at him, but at the parents who LET him abuse their kids. Nobody there got a free pass unlike 'oh I saw MJ molesting boys and I saw it happen for months/years but I never did anything about it', 'Okay, you can go now, all we needed was your testimony, you won't be charged for aiding and abetting, a co-conspirator, contributing to the delinquency of a child, etc'.
Interestingly enough on that note in the MJ case, the accusers never demanded an apology from the ex-staff who got up in court and swore they WATCHED him abusing those boys, but put their paycheck first. And the fired maids and drivers, etc, never felt a need to apologize to the kids they supposedly watched being raped for months or years on end either. If any of this was real, somebody somewhere would demand those maids be held accountable for their own role, but nobody, the supposed victims, their mothers, anybody in their families, thought that was necessary. Now I don't have any kids, and I don't know if you do, but let's be real, you find out somebody watched your kid being raped for weeks/months on end, and didn't say anything to anybody because it was more important to them they keep their job, how willing would you be to let that slide, and say that person had no responsibility to report it or do anything to stop it?
Will Vahey, not a famous person, but a pedophile, who made the news because he was a teacher who'd take his boy students on overnight trips, where he would drug them, and molest them while they were unconscious, and take pictures of it, which filled up 10 gigabytes on a flash drive he had, which was stolen from his house by his housekeeper, who took it to the police station, and when they came to arrest him, he killed himself.
In all these cases of real pedophiles, there's proof, there are willing accomplices, there's also hired help who put the victims first instead of their job, there is photographic evidence, there is homemade child porn, there's opting for suicide instead of arrest/prison (like a district attorney of all people who got busted in a To Catch a Predator sting and blew his brains out when the cops came to arrest him), there is all this stuff that never existed in the MJ case. Again, if we can't believe ANY of the people who said 'he did it/I saw him', and there's no physical evidence, not a shred of child porn anywhere, no video or photographic evidence, no co-pedophiles to share victims with, it doesn't matter how weird he acted, there is no case. If being/acting weird was a sign someone was a pedophile, there wouldn't be millions of victims of it, most parents would NEVER leave their kids alone with a noted weirdo, but they think nothing of leaving them with trusted teachers, scout leaders, coaches, youth pastors, pediatricians, talent scouts, child photographers, camp counselors, babysitters, daycare providers, music teachers, swim instructors, priests, family friends, relatives, etc.
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Post by Admin on Feb 1, 2022 5:31:16 GMT
Of course there will be always be accusers who lie, especially when there's money involved. The fact that he was acquitted of all charges works in his favor, too. But I doubt there are very many adults of sound mind who don't cringe when they see MJ and that kid snuggling on the couch during Walters' interview. Jacko wasn't exactly the poster child for honesty, either. Or sanity for that matter. js None of which makes him a pedophile. It's indisputable Gary Glitter, another famous rock star, was a pedophile, because the first time he was arrested for it, cops found 800+ images of child porn on his computer, the 2nd time he got arrested was for having sex with 10 year old girls in Vietnam, then a 3rd time in connection to Saville. And Saville we can believe was a pedophile because as soon as he was dead, boom, 1400 posthumous allegations. In the 10+ years MJ's been dead, there's been a grand total of 3 accusers, 2 of which wanted to get his estate's billion dollars, and the third one was a woman, who since she didn't fit the 'little boys' narrative, was promptly buried in the press because nobody wanted to read her story.
Ian Watkins, lead singer of the group Lost Prophets, he was a pedophile, of this there was no doubt, but the judge didn't just throw the book at him, but at the parents who LET him abuse their kids. Nobody there got a free pass unlike 'oh I saw MJ molesting boys and I saw it happen for months/years but I never did anything about it', 'Okay, you can go now, all we needed was your testimony, you won't be charged for aiding and abetting, a co-conspirator, contributing to the delinquency of a child, etc'. Interestingly enough on that note in the MJ case, the accusers never demanded an apology from the ex-staff who got up in court and swore they WATCHED him abusing those boys, but put their paycheck first. And the fired maids and drivers, etc, never felt a need to apologize to the kids they supposedly watched being raped for months or years on end either. If any of this was real, somebody somewhere would demand those maids be held accountable for their own role, but nobody, the supposed victims, their mothers, anybody in their families, thought that was necessary. Now I don't have any kids, and I don't know if you do, but let's be real, you find out somebody watched your kid being raped for weeks/months on end, and didn't say anything to anybody because it was more important to them they keep their job, how willing would you be to let that slide, and say that person had no responsibility to report it or do anything to stop it?
Will Vahey, not a famous person, but a pedophile, who made the news because he was a teacher who'd take his boy students on overnight trips, where he would drug them, and molest them while they were unconscious, and take pictures of it, which filled up 10 gigabytes on a flash drive he had, which was stolen from his house by his housekeeper, who took it to the police station, and when they came to arrest him, he killed himself. In all these cases of real pedophiles, there's proof, there are willing accomplices, there's also hired help who put the victims first instead of their job, there is photographic evidence, there is homemade child porn, there's opting for suicide instead of arrest/prison (like a district attorney of all people who got busted in a To Catch a Predator sting and blew his brains out when the cops came to arrest him), there is all this stuff that never existed in the MJ case. Again, if we can't believe ANY of the people who said 'he did it/I saw him', and there's no physical evidence, not a shred of child porn anywhere, no video or photographic evidence, no co-pedophiles to share victims with, it doesn't matter how weird he acted, there is no case. If being/acting weird was a sign someone was a pedophile, there wouldn't be millions of victims of it, most parents would NEVER leave their kids alone with a noted weirdo, but they think nothing of leaving them with trusted teachers, scout leaders, coaches, youth pastors, pediatricians, talent scouts, child photographers, camp counselors, babysitters, daycare providers, music teachers, swim instructors, priests, family friends, relatives, etc.
I'm not saying he was a pedophile. I'm saying it was inappropriate for him to sleep with children. I get the whole Peter Pan thing, but he could have, at the very least, put the porn in another wing of his house...that, by the way, was designed to attract children. That weirdo down the street couldn't lure kids into his home and sleep with them (or dangle babies from balconies) and still have people defend his honor. I guess MJ was special.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 1, 2022 13:48:53 GMT
I'm not saying he was a pedophile. I'm saying it was inappropriate for him to sleep with children. I get the whole Peter Pan thing, but he could have, at the very least, put the porn in another wing of his house...that, by the way, was designed to attract children. That weirdo down the street couldn't lure kids into his home and sleep with them (or dangle babies from balconies) and still have people defend his honor. I guess MJ was special.
And if he wasn't doing anything wrong, what makes it inappropriate?
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Post by Admin on Feb 1, 2022 23:10:51 GMT
I'm not saying he was a pedophile. I'm saying it was inappropriate for him to sleep with children. I get the whole Peter Pan thing, but he could have, at the very least, put the porn in another wing of his house...that, by the way, was designed to attract children. That weirdo down the street couldn't lure kids into his home and sleep with them (or dangle babies from balconies) and still have people defend his honor. I guess MJ was special. And if he wasn't doing anything wrong, what makes it inappropriate?
Are you asking about MJ or the weirdo down the street?
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 2, 2022 0:12:53 GMT
And if he wasn't doing anything wrong, what makes it inappropriate?
Are you asking about MJ or the weirdo down the street?
For now we'll go with the one where entire families were invited to stay in a 25 room mansion and with permission they all stayed the night in a 2 story bedroom.
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Post by Admin on Feb 2, 2022 0:34:56 GMT
Are you asking about MJ or the weirdo down the street? For now we'll go with the one where entire families were invited to stay in a 25 room mansion and with permission they all stayed the night in a 2 story bedroom.
A 25-room mansion and they had to sleep in his bed with him? If you can tell me why you wouldn't want your kids to sleep with the weirdo down the street, you might find an answer to your question.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 2, 2022 6:19:19 GMT
For now we'll go with the one where entire families were invited to stay in a 25 room mansion and with permission they all stayed the night in a 2 story bedroom.
A 25-room mansion and they had to sleep in his bed with him? If you can tell me why you wouldn't want your kids to sleep with the weirdo down the street, you might find an answer to your question.
Do you ever wonder why the kids wanted to stay in his room with him? Why no matter where he went, what country in the world, kids flocked around him? What did he have the weirdo down the street wouldn't?
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Post by Admin on Feb 2, 2022 7:14:42 GMT
A 25-room mansion and they had to sleep in his bed with him? If you can tell me why you wouldn't want your kids to sleep with the weirdo down the street, you might find an answer to your question. Do you ever wonder why the kids wanted to stay in his room with him? Why no matter where he went, what country in the world, kids flocked around him? What did he have the weirdo down the street wouldn't?
A 25-room mansion with an amusement park in the yard and a suitcase full of porn by the bed in which he slept with them?
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 2, 2022 7:30:48 GMT
Do you ever wonder why the kids wanted to stay in his room with him? Why no matter where he went, what country in the world, kids flocked around him? What did he have the weirdo down the street wouldn't?
A 25-room mansion with an amusement park in the yard and a suitcase full of porn by the bed in which he slept with them?
Apparently all the kids who stayed there knew not to open things they weren't allowed to, the only possible exception would be the Arvizo brothers but given the DA had to plant Gavin's prints on the magazines, that in itself is highly doubtful.
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Post by Admin on Feb 2, 2022 7:56:29 GMT
A 25-room mansion with an amusement park in the yard and a suitcase full of porn by the bed in which he slept with them? Apparently all the kids who stayed there knew not to open things they weren't allowed to, the only possible exception would be the Arvizo brothers but given the DA had to plant Gavin's prints on the magazines, that in itself is highly doubtful. So he allowed them to see it. Whose side are you on? lol If memory serves, wasn't MJ sleeping in their beds at their houses before they came to Neverland and slept in his? Celebrity, millions of devoted fans, and a lot of money. Is that what MJ had that the weirdo down the street didn't?
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