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Post by Sarge on Mar 1, 2022 18:17:29 GMT
I answered why. Read my post again, as many times you as you need, the answer is there. And I alluded to it earlier. And it's in the meme you reposted. I suspect you want a certain answer and will continue ignoring the content of my posts unless I give you whatever answer you want. I can't give you an answer I don't believe is true. I guess I missed it. Thanks anyway. It's still there.
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Post by Admin on Mar 1, 2022 21:10:53 GMT
Arrogance does seem to be a prevalent trait among atheists. They also appear to enjoy making things personal.  I dont think that is an Atheist trait, I think that is a human one. I didn’t say it was an “atheist trait.” |
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Post by Admin on Mar 1, 2022 21:11:13 GMT
I guess I missed it. Thanks anyway. It's still there. I guess I’m missing it. Thanks anyway. |
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Post by Sarge on Mar 1, 2022 21:30:34 GMT
I guess I’m missing it. Thanks anyway. I don't know how; it's stated in the simplest terms. Perhaps we both misunderstand one another, talking past one another, as they say. How about plainly stating why you think atheists behave the way the way you claim, and we can go from there.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 1, 2022 22:34:56 GMT
I dont think that is an Atheist trait, I think that is a human one. I didn’t say it was an “atheist trait.” The implication I took was that you felt it was more prevalent in Atheists than in other sections of society.
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Post by Admin on Mar 1, 2022 23:36:04 GMT
I didn’t say it was an “atheist trait.” The implication I took was that you felt it was more prevalent in Atheists than in other sections of society. It wasn't implied, but that's a fair inference. Incorrect, but fair nonetheless.
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Post by Admin on Mar 1, 2022 23:36:43 GMT
I guess I’m missing it. Thanks anyway. I don't know how; it's stated in the simplest terms. Perhaps we both misunderstand one another, talking past one another, as they say. How about plainly stating why you think atheists behave the way the way you claim, and we can go from there. Pass. Thanks.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 2, 2022 1:24:07 GMT
I don't know how; it's stated in the simplest terms. Perhaps we both misunderstand one another, talking past one another, as they say. How about plainly stating why you think atheists behave the way the way you claim, and we can go from there. Pass. Thanks. Noted, but I won't waste my time in the future.
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Post by Admin on Mar 2, 2022 1:28:07 GMT
Noted, but I won't waste my time in the future. I appreciate that. Thanks.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 2, 2022 1:39:13 GMT
I guess I’m missing it. Thanks anyway. I don't know how; it's stated in the simplest terms. Perhaps we both misunderstand one another, talking past one another, as they say. How about plainly stating why you think atheists behave the way the way you claim, and we can go from there. Well in actual fact he does not believe that Atheists behave any differently, I am guessing I am not the only one that inferred that from his comments.
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Post by Admin on Mar 2, 2022 2:17:13 GMT
I don't know how; it's stated in the simplest terms. Perhaps we both misunderstand one another, talking past one another, as they say. How about plainly stating why you think atheists behave the way the way you claim, and we can go from there. Well in actual fact he does not believe that Atheists behave any differently, I am guessing I am not the only one that inferred that from his comments. There is nothing to infer; nothing between the lines of what I've written. At this point, I'd just like to understand why atheists such as the one quoted in the OP take issue with jewelry, monuments, sculptures, and paintings. It's certainly Sarge's prerogative to talk about how some Protestants treat Catholics, but I'm not going to pretend it addresses the topic at hand.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 2, 2022 2:54:26 GMT
Well in actual fact he does not believe that Atheists behave any differently, I am guessing I am not the only one that inferred that from his comments. There is nothing to infer; nothing between the lines of what I've written. At this point, I'd just like to understand why atheists such as the one quoted in the OP take issue with jewelry, monuments, sculptures, and paintings. It's certainly Sarge's prerogative to talk about how some Protestants treat Catholics, but I'm not going to pretend it addresses the topic at hand. If there is nothing around atheists behaviour to infer, then you are saying they behave exactly like other humans, so why are we making a distinction around atheists?
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Post by Admin on Mar 2, 2022 3:02:51 GMT
There is nothing to infer; nothing between the lines of what I've written. At this point, I'd just like to understand why atheists such as the one quoted in the OP take issue with jewelry, monuments, sculptures, and paintings. It's certainly Sarge's prerogative to talk about how some Protestants treat Catholics, but I'm not going to pretend it addresses the topic at hand. If there is nothing around atheists behaviour to infer, then you are saying they behave exactly like other humans, so why are we making a distinction around atheists? I meant there is nothing to infer in what I've written, but now that you mention it, there's not much room for inference in the OP, either.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 2, 2022 3:12:05 GMT
If there is nothing around atheists behaviour to infer, then you are saying they behave exactly like other humans, so why are we making a distinction around atheists? I meant there is nothing to infer in what I've written, but now that you mention it, there's not much room for inference in the OP, either. I'm a little bit confused, do you or do you not think that atheists are over represented in the 'arrogant behaviour associated with my beliefs, or lack thereof' stakes
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Post by Admin on Mar 2, 2022 3:25:48 GMT
I meant there is nothing to infer in what I've written, but now that you mention it, there's not much room for inference in the OP, either. I'm a little bit confused, do you or do you not think that atheists are over represented in the 'arrogant behaviour associated with my beliefs, or lack thereof' stakes Only if the one in the OP speaks for all atheists.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 2, 2022 3:29:46 GMT
I'm a little bit confused, do you or do you not think that atheists are over represented in the 'arrogant behaviour associated with my beliefs, or lack thereof' stakes Only if the one in the OP speaks for all atheists. Do you think it does? EDIT: Actually that is a non-response, either you think that atheists are over represented and the OP is speaking for all atheists, or there is no difference and it's wrong, which do YOU think?
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Post by Admin on Mar 2, 2022 3:41:56 GMT
Only if the one in the OP speaks for all atheists. Do you think it does? EDIT: Actually that is a non-response, either you think that atheists are over represented and the OP is speaking for all atheists, or there is no difference and it's wrong, which do YOU think? When I ask why atheists have a problem with jewelry, monuments, and paintings, I'm referring to the ones who have a problem with jewelry, monuments, and paintings. Like the one in the OP. Whether or not that represents all atheists is irrelevant, and to say it's just human behavior is to disregard the type of jewelry, monuments, and paintings with which they have problems. As I said earlier in this thread, when someone rallies against pride parades, we call them homophobic and treat them as the bigots they are. What do we call atheists who rally against crucifix earrings and sculptures of Jesus?
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Post by gadreel on Mar 2, 2022 4:09:59 GMT
Do you think it does? EDIT: Actually that is a non-response, either you think that atheists are over represented and the OP is speaking for all atheists, or there is no difference and it's wrong, which do YOU think? When I ask why atheists have a problem with jewelry, monuments, and paintings, I'm referring to the ones who have a problem with jewelry, monuments, and paintings. Like the one in the OP. Whether or not that represents all atheists is irrelevant, and to say it's just human behavior is to disregard the type of jewelry, monuments, and paintings with which they have problems. As I said earlier in this thread, when someone rallies against pride parades, we call them homophobic and treat them as the bigots they are. What do we call atheists who rally against crucifix earrings and sculptures of Jesus? We call them what they are, the people who rally against pride parades are human, as are atheists that have problems as mentioned in the OP, it's only when a group exhibits group behaviour that you can single them out. (yes I know that the people who rage against pride parades are usually evangelical religionists but in the context of the statement you made . . . )
This is why I asked the question, as it seems to me that atheists are actually less likely to do this kind of thing than the general population and so it suggests even more that this is human behaviour begging the question as to why atheists are being singled out.
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Post by Admin on Mar 2, 2022 4:49:32 GMT
When I ask why atheists have a problem with jewelry, monuments, and paintings, I'm referring to the ones who have a problem with jewelry, monuments, and paintings. Like the one in the OP. Whether or not that represents all atheists is irrelevant, and to say it's just human behavior is to disregard the type of jewelry, monuments, and paintings with which they have problems. As I said earlier in this thread, when someone rallies against pride parades, we call them homophobic and treat them as the bigots they are. What do we call atheists who rally against crucifix earrings and sculptures of Jesus? We call them what they are, the people who rally against pride parades are human, as are atheists that have problems as mentioned in the OP, it's only when a group exhibits group behaviour that you can single them out. (yes I know that the people who rage against pride parades are usually evangelical religionists but in the context of the statement you made . . . )
This is why I asked the question, as it seems to me that atheists are actually less likely to do this kind of thing than the general population and so it suggests even more that this is human behaviour begging the question as to why atheists are being singled out.
I guess I'm just not as quick as you are to excuse the OP as a rare exception. I also do not align myself with Christians who exhibit the same behavior, nor do I consider them exceptions, either. The difference, however, is the intent. Whereas its both possible and plausible that the Christian holding the "God hates fags" sign is genuinely concerned with a homosexual's eternal soul (a self-defeating method, to be sure), how would it be either possible or plausible that the atheist in the OP is concerned about anything other than relieving himself of what he chooses to find annoying?
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Post by Sarge on Mar 2, 2022 6:45:22 GMT
Well in actual fact he does not believe that Atheists behave any differently, I am guessing I am not the only one that inferred that from his comments. There is nothing to infer; nothing between the lines of what I've written. At this point, I'd just like to understand why atheists such as the one quoted in the OP take issue with jewelry, monuments, sculptures, and paintings. It's certainly Sarge's prerogative to talk about how some Protestants treat Catholics, but I'm not going to pretend it addresses the topic at hand. If you have a question or comment for me or about me, say it to me please, instead of sulking and badmouthing me to other posters.
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