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Post by Winter_King on Jun 15, 2022 19:28:28 GMT
I think episode 5 was probably the best so far. But still, I don't get why the production values of the Mandalorian are way better than Obi Wan. Why didn't they de-aged Hayden Christensen in the flashback? I mean Obi Wan looked alright but 40 year old Hayden doesn't look 19.
Reva decides to kill Vader by sneaking behind him and turning her lightsaber before taking a swing at him instead of trying to pull something similar to what Kylo Ren did to Snoke in the Last Jedi.
Also why didn't Vader just pulled the other ship? They could've fix this by having Reva sneaking on him at that moment giving Obi Wan the chance to escape, instead Vader just looks like an idiot. Again.
Still, I liked that Reva vs Vader fight. It shows how outclassed she is and how stupid it was for her to attack him.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Jun 15, 2022 21:36:15 GMT
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jun 15, 2022 22:09:09 GMT
Episode 5 was slightly better than 4. Although i feel like Vader would have killed Reva after what she just pulled. Same. It's a shame. I really liked the first three episodes, but episodes 4 and 5 have not been good.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 16, 2022 0:02:49 GMT
Episode 5 was slightly better than 4. Although i feel like Vader would have killed Reva after what she just pulled. But- he left her alive because he KNEW that she would be angry at Obiwan and try to destroy him! Someone give these writers an Emmy already.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 16, 2022 1:23:00 GMT
Don’t you really love the coming back from the dead plot? And they did it TWICE!
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Post by Jan El Señor on Jun 16, 2022 3:56:32 GMT
Episode 5 was good until the end.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Jun 16, 2022 7:48:23 GMT
Episode 5 was slightly better than 4. Although i feel like Vader would have killed Reva after what she just pulled. But- he left her alive because he KNEW that she would be angry at Obiwan and try to destroy him! Someone give these writers an Emmy already. I was scratching my head at why she picked that up although I fully expected Vader to pick it up in another continuity shattering moment.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 16, 2022 10:52:10 GMT
So did Vader try to kill Reva or not? If he did, then her survival is stupid. Extremely stupid.
If he impaled her and left her because he ‘knew’ she would kill Obiwan that is stupid writing. NOTHING justifies this bullshit. It is horribly written. The writers aren’t putting any effort into it, why should we?
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Post by Winter_King on Jun 16, 2022 12:01:08 GMT
So did Vader try to kill Reva or not? If he did, then her survival is stupid. Extremely stupid. If he impaled her and left her because he ‘knew’ she would kill Obiwan that is stupid writing. NOTHING justifies this bullshit. It is horribly written. The writers aren’t putting any effort into it, why should we? I guess he assumed she was going to die but given that the Grand Inquisitor just showed up after suffering a very similar wound, it doesn't make sense. Considering how easy it was for Vader to beat Reva, I guess he could've just have just left her there because she wasn't important enough to kill but I still think it's out of character for Vader to leave her alive.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 16, 2022 12:08:27 GMT
So did Vader try to kill Reva or not? If he did, then her survival is stupid. Extremely stupid. If he impaled her and left her because he ‘knew’ she would kill Obiwan that is stupid writing. NOTHING justifies this bullshit. It is horribly written. The writers aren’t putting any effort into it, why should we? There's absolutely no reason to leave her alive. He's killed people for failing, damn near killed an officer for disagreeing with him, yet someone tries to kill him and he lets her live? No reason Vader couldn't have pulled the other ship, he just watched it takeoff. No reason for her to have done all this terrible shit just so she could have a chance to kill Vader. She's been up close and personal with him how many times? No reason for Vader to allow this ruse to continue if he was onto her the whole time. What tactical advantage did that give him? He doesn't need her for anything, he can do anything she can do and his motivation is stronger. After all that, the episode ends with a closeup of the apparently now endangered Luke?* Yeah, we've seen the rest of the franchise, we know literally nothing will come of this. At least when Obi-Wan interacts with randos, we know their fate is actually up in the air. Stop having him hang around with core characters. It's lazy writing by people who have no idea what they're doing and don't have the first clue about Star Wars. I started off giving this show the benefit of the doubt, I just can't do it anymore. It sucks. * And by the way, Bail Organa... A good senator but a terrible espionage agent. "Here's a secret message to my shadow operative with all of the vital information spelled out. No code words, nothing. Even if the enemy literally only hears half the message, it would be devastating to the cause."
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 16, 2022 12:10:16 GMT
So did Vader try to kill Reva or not? If he did, then her survival is stupid. Extremely stupid. If he impaled her and left her because he ‘knew’ she would kill Obiwan that is stupid writing. NOTHING justifies this bullshit. It is horribly written. The writers aren’t putting any effort into it, why should we? I guess he assumed she was going to die but given that the Grand Inquisitor just showed up after suffering a very similar wound, it doesn't make sense. Considering how easy it was for Vader to beat Reva, I guess he could've just have just left her there because she wasn't important enough to kill but I still think it's out of character for Vader to leave her alive. He could have force-pushed her off a cliff. Or better yet, if the writers didn’t want her to survive an encounter with Vader, don’t include it. Then we wouldn’t have this farce of Reva surviving an impalement by Vader. I guess that light sabres can cauterise wounds but the thing is that Vader had complete control over Reva. Is it logical that he could miss her heart? And if he missed her heart and only got her in the gut or lungs then at least show her as completely messed up. Yeah she looked quite messed up but she should stay like that throughout the next episode. But she’ll likely be jumping around like she’s fine.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 16, 2022 12:10:48 GMT
So did Vader try to kill Reva or not? If he did, then her survival is stupid. Extremely stupid. If he impaled her and left her because he ‘knew’ she would kill Obiwan that is stupid writing. NOTHING justifies this bullshit. It is horribly written. The writers aren’t putting any effort into it, why should we? I guess he assumed she was going to die but given that the Grand Inquisitor just showed up after suffering a very similar wound, it doesn't make sense. Considering how easy it was for Vader to beat Reva, I guess he could've just have just left her there because she wasn't important enough to kill but I still think it's out of character for Vader to leave her alive. Remember when lightsabers used to kill people? Now they just burn holes in your tunic and you walk away. Hell, they bounce off stormtrooper armor and it takes several hits to subdue anyone with them. They seem more like clubs.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 16, 2022 12:12:24 GMT
So did Vader try to kill Reva or not? If he did, then her survival is stupid. Extremely stupid. If he impaled her and left her because he ‘knew’ she would kill Obiwan that is stupid writing. NOTHING justifies this bullshit. It is horribly written. The writers aren’t putting any effort into it, why should we? There's absolutely no reason to leave her alive. He's killed people for failing, damn near killed an officer for disagreeing with him, yet someone tries to kill him and he lets her live? No reason Vader couldn't have pulled the other ship, he just watched it takeoff. No reason for her to have done all this terrible shit just so she could have a chance to kill Vader. She's been up close and personal with him how many times? No reason for Vader to allow this ruse to continue if he was onto her the whole time. What tactical advantage did that give him? He doesn't need her for anything, he can do anything she can do and his motivation is stronger. After all that, the episode ends with a closeup of the apparently now endangered Luke?* Yeah, we've seen the rest of the franchise, we know literally nothing will come of this. At least when Obi-Wan interacts with randos, we know their fate is actually up in the air. Stop having him hang around with core characters. It's lazy writing by people who have no idea what they're doing and don't have the first clue about Star Wars. I started off giving this show the benefit of the doubt, I just can't do it anymore. It sucks. * And by the way, Bail Organa... A good senator but a terrible espionage agent. "Here's a secret message to my shadow operative with all of the vital information spelled out. No code words, nothing. Even if the enemy literally only hears half the message, it would be devastating to the cause." Yep, the writing is horrible.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 16, 2022 12:15:50 GMT
I guess he assumed she was going to die but given that the Grand Inquisitor just showed up after suffering a very similar wound, it doesn't make sense. Considering how easy it was for Vader to beat Reva, I guess he could've just have just left her there because she wasn't important enough to kill but I still think it's out of character for Vader to leave her alive. Remember when lightsabers used to kill people? Now they just burn holes in your tunic and you walk away. Hell, they bounce off stormtrooper armor and it takes several hits to subdue anyone with them. They seem more like clubs. Those force field beams at the checkpoint that sliced the stormtrooper in half are stronger. Jedis should contract the manufacturer of those for their lightsabers.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Jun 16, 2022 12:40:59 GMT
Another example of the terrible writing:-
Reva hates Obi-Wan Kenobi. She wants to kill him. Why? Well they explain it to us, he wasn't there to protect the younglings when it all went tits up - "Where were you Obi-Wan?" she questions...
Only she knows the answer, "Anakin isn't dead Obi-Wan", you didn't manage to kill him... So she hates him for not trying to stop Anakin, whilst knowing that he tried to stop Anakin.
Quality stuff.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Jun 16, 2022 12:42:53 GMT
Remember when lightsabers used to kill people? Well - at a minimum - they used to cut your arm off! Where's all the severed limbs in this?!! Not one...
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 16, 2022 13:09:24 GMT
Another example of the terrible writing:- Reva hates Obi-Wan Kenobi. She wants to kill him. Why? Well they explain it to us, he wasn't there to protect the younglings when it all went tits up - "Where were you Obi-Wan?" she questions... Only she knows the answer, "Anakin isn't dead Obi-Wan", you didn't manage to kill him... So she hates him for not trying to stop Anakin, whilst knowing that he tried to stop Anakin. Quality stuff. She hates Anakin the most. So the only thing to do is train for years as an Inquisitor to set up a fight between Obiwan and Vader, or something. Obviously. It’s almost like this character was shunted into the pre-existing feature film script to fill it out.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Jun 16, 2022 15:01:30 GMT
Another example of the terrible writing:- Reva hates Obi-Wan Kenobi. She wants to kill him. Why? Well they explain it to us, he wasn't there to protect the younglings when it all went tits up - "Where were you Obi-Wan?" she questions... Only she knows the answer, "Anakin isn't dead Obi-Wan", you didn't manage to kill him... So she hates him for not trying to stop Anakin, whilst knowing that he tried to stop Anakin. Quality stuff. What was ObiWan going to do if he had been there? Talk Anakin out of it? He couldn’t talk Anakin out of it on Mustafar. Not even with the cooperation of Padmé. Would he have saved the younglings? No! He would’ve been dead along with all of the other Jedi who got overwhelmed and slaughtered. But sure, hate ObiWan! It makes perfect sense.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Jun 16, 2022 15:14:23 GMT
Remember when lightsabers used to kill people? Now they just burn holes in your tunic and you walk away. Hell, they bounce off stormtrooper armor and it takes several hits to subdue anyone with them. They seem more like clubs. Those force field beams at the checkpoint that sliced the stormtrooper in half are stronger. Jedis should contract the manufacturer of those for their lightsabers. Just break their contract of using Disney lightsabers. Oh, wait. The writers won’t stop writing it that way. Never mind.
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Post by shinnickneth on Jun 16, 2022 18:41:27 GMT
Remember when lightsabers used to kill people? Now they just burn holes in your tunic and you walk away. Hell, they bounce off stormtrooper armor and it takes several hits to subdue anyone with them. They seem more like clubs. You can get sliced in half by one and live.
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