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Post by clusium on Dec 19, 2022 22:11:35 GMT
Nope. God Is. He Is the Ultimate Reality of the entire universe, & the Holy Bible makes that perfectly clear. There is another God, one much higher than your God. He actually created him. God Is God. |
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Post by captainbryce on Dec 20, 2022 8:23:19 GMT
No it doesn't. Yes, I do. All of those are the CLAIMS, not the EVIDENCE. I am RIGHT! God IS defined with contradictory properties which cancels itself out of existence. Doesn't matter how many times you reply with the opposite of what I've said, as long as you fail to address my argument then you're not making a case. I'm just going to keep repeating back to you the opposite of what you're saying. You see how pointless this argument is? You need to learn the difference between an assertion and an argument. So far, you're just disagreeing with me by making claims, but you're not actually presenting an argument. Nope. God Is. He Is the Ultimate Reality of the entire universe, & the Holy Bible makes that perfectly clear. Nope. He is NOT. The Holy Bible is LYING! |
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Post by clusium on Dec 20, 2022 14:42:16 GMT
Nope. God Is. He Is the Ultimate Reality of the entire universe, & the Holy Bible makes that perfectly clear. Nope. He is NOT. The Holy Bible is LYING! Wrong. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 20, 2022 15:16:43 GMT
Nope. He is NOT. The Holy Bible is LYING! Wrong. Isn't it a relief that we only answer for our own errors, and not the hideous errors of heathens? |
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Post by Isapop on Dec 20, 2022 15:46:42 GMT
Isn't it a relief that we only answer for our own errors, and not the hideous errors of heathens? Ah, I'm glad you're back. I kinda missed expressions like "heathens". Who knows? I might be inspired at some point to yell "SODOMITES!" |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 20, 2022 16:02:03 GMT
Isn't it a relief that we only answer for our own errors, and not the hideous errors of heathens? Ah, I'm glad you're back. I kinda missed expressions like "heathens". Who knows? I might be inspired at some point to yell "SODOMITES!" Thanks.  As I recall, you were the last one I talked to here before the ban kicked in. You had a trivia question about Howard Hawks movies, and I answered it. Next thing I know, I was banned. No explanation or anything. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Dec 20, 2022 20:07:33 GMT
I’m not interested in essays written by other people. I’m interested in arguments YOU can make supporting YOUR beliefs. It doesn’t matter how many times you yell it from the rooftops, you have no evidence of your God. Saying it over and over again is not an “argument”, it’s just repeating a claim. And he’s not my God because I don’t worship the motherfucker! I have no god, and as far as you can demonstrate, neither do you. You have an imaginary god concept that doesn’t appear manifest in reality. So you’re gonna need more than an essay to convince me that the god that you imagine exists is real. You’re gonna need EVIDENCE! Conveniently the one thing you don’t have. Well said! |
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 20, 2022 23:23:04 GMT
Nope. He is NOT. The Holy Bible is LYING! Wrong. The Koran says much the same. Does it prove Allah exists? |
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Post by clusium on Dec 21, 2022 1:08:43 GMT
The Koran says much the same. Does it prove Allah exists? Allah is actually ARABIC for God. Christians of Arabic descent call God Allah too. |
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 21, 2022 3:31:54 GMT
The Koran says much the same. Does it prove Allah exists? Allah is actually ARABIC for God. Christians of Arabic descent call God Allah too. Then does the Koran prove God exists? |
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Post by clusium on Dec 21, 2022 5:22:42 GMT
Allah is actually ARABIC for God. Christians of Arabic descent call God Allah too. Then does the Koran prove God exists? The Koran is just a re-writing of earlier Christian & Jewish writings. God Had already been written about for thousands of years, by the time Muhammad came along. And yes, the writings of the Torah (Old Testament to us Christians) already existed by the time Christ Came along. |
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 21, 2022 5:26:28 GMT
Then does the Koran prove God exists? The Koran is just a re-writing of earlier Christian & Jewish writings. God Had already been written about for thousands of years, by the time Muhammad came along. And yes, the writings of the Torah (Old Testament to us Christians) already existed by the time Christ Came along. So you really believe God speaks directly to people, just like I’m talking to you right now, and tells them verbatim what to write down? Does he talk to you like this? |
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Post by clusium on Dec 21, 2022 5:39:46 GMT
The Koran is just a re-writing of earlier Christian & Jewish writings. God Had already been written about for thousands of years, by the time Muhammad came along. And yes, the writings of the Torah (Old Testament to us Christians) already existed by the time Christ Came along. So you really believe God speaks directly to people, just like I’m talking to you right now, and tells them verbatim what to write down? Does he talk to you like this? No, He Doesn't Speak to me. I am waaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy too much of a sinner for Him to Choose me for His Messenger. |
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Post by The Lost One on Dec 21, 2022 10:55:40 GMT
Then does the Koran prove God exists? The Koran is just a re-writing of earlier Christian & Jewish writings. God Had already been written about for thousands of years, by the time Muhammad came along. And yes, the writings of the Torah (Old Testament to us Christians) already existed by the time Christ Came along. What's your view on non-Abrahamic religious writings? Are they just plain false or are they perhaps less sophisticated attempts to understand the same God worshipped by the Abrahamics? |
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 21, 2022 12:14:11 GMT
So you really believe God speaks directly to people, just like I’m talking to you right now, and tells them verbatim what to write down? Does he talk to you like this? No, He Doesn't Speak to me. I am waaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy too much of a sinner for Him to Choose me for His Messenger. What’s being sinner got to do with it? According to the Bible, God spoke with worse sinners than you. Being sinner never stopped Jesus from talking to people. And he is God so they say, he never said it. St Paul says he spoke to him while he head to persecute his followers. Mohammad says he is God Chosen Messenger. You must be an atheist troll and this how you get your kicks. |
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Post by clusium on Dec 21, 2022 12:17:41 GMT
The Koran is just a re-writing of earlier Christian & Jewish writings. God Had already been written about for thousands of years, by the time Muhammad came along. And yes, the writings of the Torah (Old Testament to us Christians) already existed by the time Christ Came along. What's your view on non-Abrahamic religious writings? Are they just plain false or are they perhaps less sophisticated attempts to understand the same God worshipped by the Abrahamics? I've never even read them to make a decision on that. |
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Post by clusium on Dec 21, 2022 12:19:03 GMT
No, He Doesn't Speak to me. I am waaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy too much of a sinner for Him to Choose me for His Messenger. What’s being sinner got to do with it? According to the Bible, God spoke with worse sinners than you. Being sinner never stopped Jesus from talking to people. And he is God so they say, he never said it. St Paul says he spoke to him while he head to persecute his followers. Mohammad says he is God Chosen Messenger. You must be an atheist troll and this how you get your kicks. True. But, in this particular case, Our Heavenly Father never Chose me to be His Messenger. I am not a visionary. I do not receive any kind of Divine Messages from Our Lord, Our Blessed Mother or any other angels or saints. |
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 21, 2022 12:21:48 GMT
What’s being sinner got to do with it? According to the Bible, God spoke with worse sinners than you. Being sinner never stopped Jesus from talking to people. And he is God so they say, he never said it. St Paul says he spoke to him while he head to persecute his followers. Mohammad says he is God Chosen Messenger. You must be an atheist troll and this how you get your kicks. True. But, in this particular case, Our Heavenly Father never Chose me to be His Messenger. I am not a visionary. I do not receive any kind of Divine Messages from Our Lord, Our Blessed Mother or any other angels or saints. How do you know those visionaries are not crazy? Don’t bother answering. You want a fairytale God. |
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Post by clusium on Dec 21, 2022 12:25:35 GMT
True. But, in this particular case, Our Heavenly Father never Chose me to be His Messenger. I am not a visionary. I do not receive any kind of Divine Messages from Our Lord, Our Blessed Mother or any other angels or saints. How do you know those visionaries are not crazy? Don’t bother answering. You want a fairytale God. There are several reasons why they were not crazy. I can assure you that the Catholic Church treats such claims regarding visionaries with a kind of skepticism that would put St. Thomas to shame. It usually takes decades (if not centuries) to determine who was authentic & who wasn't. |
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Post by paulslaugh on Dec 21, 2022 12:32:31 GMT
How do you know those visionaries are not crazy? Don’t bother answering. You want a fairytale God. There are several reasons why they were not crazy. I can assure you that the Catholic Church treats such claims regarding visionaries with a kind of skepticism that would put St. Thomas to shame. It usually takes decades (if not centuries) to determine who was authentic & who wasn't. The Catholic Church has a religious institution to maintain. The Bible does say that after Jesus, all revelation from God is closed. This is why Protestants reject all visionaries. |
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